IGD: Padres @ Phillies (24 Aug 07)
Fri, Aug 24, 2007
by Geoff Young
| time: | 4:05 p.m. PT |
| tv: | 4SD |
| sp: | Greg Maddux (9-9, 3.90) vs Jamie Moyer (11-6, 4.12) |
| pre: | Padres.com, SI.com, B-R.com |
Greg Maddux and Jamie Moyer both made their big-league debuts in 1986 with the Chicago Cubs. Moyer’s first game came on June 16. He beat Steve Carlton and the Phillies, 7-5, at Wrigley Field. The first batter Moyer faced, ex-Padre Ron Roenicke, doubled but was left stranded when Mike Schmidt rapped into a 5-4-3 double play started by Davey Lopes.
Ryne Sandberg and Gary Matthews each collected two hits in support of Moyer, as did ex-Padres Keith Moreland (technically he was still a future Padre at this point) and Jerry Mumphrey. Leon Durham hit a two-run homer and Lee Smith collected the 122nd save of his career.
Maddux got the call 2 1/2 months later, taking the loss in a September 2 game started by Moyer. Maddux served up a solo homer to Billy Hatcher (traded by the Cubs in December 1985 to Houston for the aforementioned Mumphrey) with one out in the 18th inning that gave the Astros an 8-7 victory. Nolan Ryan had gotten the start opposite Moyer.
Others who played on the ‘86 Cubs include Shawon Dunston, Chris Speier (Justin’s dad), Terry Francona, Rafael Palmeiro, Dennis Eckersley, Rick Sutcliffe, and Ed Lynch (former Cubs GM). Ronald Reagan was president and the Soviet Union still existed, as did the Berlin Wall.
The #1 song of the year according to Billboard was the dreadful Burt Bacharach offering “That’s What Friends Are For” (Burt has done some fine work, but this is not an example of it). The top television show was “The Cosby Show” and the #1 movie in America was “Top Gun” (followed closely by “Crocodile Dundee”).
You understand, right? If you’re nodding your head, then you’re old like me. Oh well, at least I have time for a quick nap before “Murder, She Wrote” starts…
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August 24, 2007 at 3:12 pm
Wow… So Moyer and Maddux started pitching when I was 3. That’s pretty crazy when I think about it that way!
August 24, 2007 at 3:30 pm
I was 4 when Maddux and Moyer got the call.
August 24, 2007 at 4:12 pm
Great start. Great start.
I like.
August 24, 2007 at 4:12 pm
Who are you people and what have you done to our offense?
August 24, 2007 at 4:15 pm
As the weather gets hotter Adrian gets hot and gets his stroke back. That was a bomb, 2-0 Pads
August 24, 2007 at 4:20 pm
Damn Milton almost had that
August 24, 2007 at 4:23 pm
Maddux is having his first inning troubles
August 24, 2007 at 4:23 pm
How much of that was Maddux getting hit hard and how much of it was fly balls finding holes?
August 24, 2007 at 4:25 pm
7: Those were pretty softly hit balls for the most part. Just unlucky.
Hopefully the Pads can continue to swing the bats and we’ll end up on the right side of this thing.
August 24, 2007 at 4:28 pm
8: Mostly finding holes, they werent raking him, but they werent all luck pretty solid hits.
Kouz rips it down the line and Burrell almost throws him out at 2nd.
August 24, 2007 at 4:29 pm
All right, so does NOG GIDP to effectively kill the inning of any big threat but score the run, or does he keep the possibility of a big inning alive but not score the run by striking out or popping out?
August 24, 2007 at 4:29 pm
We are hitting the ball hard, offense looks good. Anything but a GIDP would be great Marcus
August 24, 2007 at 4:30 pm
now would be a good time to squeeze…
August 24, 2007 at 4:30 pm
Damnit Marcus: You’ve got to get that ball deeper.
August 24, 2007 at 4:30 pm
11: The second part… a little pop up, waste of an out.
August 24, 2007 at 4:31 pm
Apparently the second one. Well done.
August 24, 2007 at 4:32 pm
16: I would had rather seen a run come in, with the pitcher up next you gotta get that run in
August 24, 2007 at 4:32 pm
Mets up 1-0 on Dogs in 1st …
August 24, 2007 at 4:33 pm
Come on, Maddux, Squeeze!
August 24, 2007 at 4:34 pm
Marcus Giles plate discipline is completely gone. Popping out is better than hitting in a double play but at least he could swing at a strike.
August 24, 2007 at 4:35 pm
Mad Dog is making him work
August 24, 2007 at 4:36 pm
After 1 …
Pitches-strikes - G Maddux 14-13; J Moyer 14-8.
Ground balls-fly balls - G Maddux 2-1; J Moyer 2-1.
Batters faced - G Maddux 6; J Moyer 5.
August 24, 2007 at 4:36 pm
Maddux showing the team how to get the pitch count up….
August 24, 2007 at 4:36 pm
Crap…
August 24, 2007 at 4:36 pm
Maddux grounding into a double play, now that was a shocker!
August 24, 2007 at 4:36 pm
20: At least the DP scores a run, instead he sets it up for Maddux to hit into one and we score nothing.
August 24, 2007 at 4:36 pm
Ahh, the Padres we know an dlove have come back to us.
August 24, 2007 at 4:37 pm
21 … and then wastes the effort by not K’ing and giving OG a chance at an RBI …
August 24, 2007 at 4:38 pm
As well as Maddux can handle the bat, he doesnt hit like he used to. Thats an AB where he should just strike out and give B. Giles a chance with 2 outs.
August 24, 2007 at 4:49 pm
The Phil broadcasters said our lineup was hitting .200 career against Moyer going into the game. Good to see every hit has been hit hard
August 24, 2007 at 4:49 pm
Thru 2 …
Pitches-strikes - G Maddux 25-21; J Moyer 31-20.
Ground balls-fly balls - G Maddux 4-2; J Moyer 4-2.
Batters faced - G Maddux 10; J Moyer 9.
August 24, 2007 at 4:50 pm
That’s not fair. :-/
August 24, 2007 at 4:50 pm
Nice DP by Iguchi, i thought that was a base hit for sure.
August 24, 2007 at 4:51 pm
Wow, YAGIDP …
August 24, 2007 at 4:51 pm
Could we get any worse luck in this game? Jesus Christ man.
August 24, 2007 at 4:51 pm
Good sequence there. Bradley walks on four pitches, Adrian grounds into a double play on the first pitch he saw.
August 24, 2007 at 4:51 pm
Look at the bright side, at least by hitting into double plays they are keeping their runners left on base low!
August 24, 2007 at 4:54 pm
36: To Adrian’s credit, he it the ball hard and it was a good pitch to hit. looked like a base hit off the bat.
August 24, 2007 at 4:55 pm
Suppose Greg will repeat his “I’m really sucking today, so it would help if I don’t have to throw four strikes to get a guy out” line? The second pitch is almost a replica of the first.
August 24, 2007 at 5:06 pm
Wow, was Khalil’s shot high or just almost out?
Let’s go, Shakespeare. Get the hit.
August 24, 2007 at 5:09 pm
3rd freakin DP. Jesus guys.
August 24, 2007 at 5:10 pm
All right, time to start sacrifice bunting whenever we have a runner on first and one or no outs.
August 24, 2007 at 5:11 pm
Urgh. That’s 3rd GiDP of the day. Drat!
August 24, 2007 at 5:11 pm
40: More of a medium high liner that kept carrying. Victorino was about to the track when he caught it and about 15 feet from the RF foul line.
August 24, 2007 at 5:18 pm
That was such a cheap slide.
August 24, 2007 at 5:19 pm
Yeah, that was not a clean take-out slide. That was a chicken shit play.
August 24, 2007 at 5:20 pm
Who tries to injure Marcus Giles? I would think you would want him in the game. Sweet interference call which makes it a dead ball play and the runner has to go back to third. Pitcher up next so they might get out of this with no runs.
August 24, 2007 at 5:21 pm
Phillies announcers are saying it was a good slide. Jerks.
August 24, 2007 at 5:22 pm
48: Which Phillies announcers? Is it Harry Kalas? I hope it’s not him; I really like his announcing.
August 24, 2007 at 5:24 pm
48: It’s Gary Matthews, who is an ass. I can’t believe they’re defending the slide. Ludicrous.
The Pads need this momentum to come back and whoop some Philly ass.
Do you think Marcus or Ruiz gets plunked later in this series?
August 24, 2007 at 5:26 pm
I think you need to actually slide for it to be a “good take out slide.” His knee did eventually hit the ground but that was after he had already made contact with Giles. Maybe this will get Giles fired up and he’ll start to hit. Hey, 1-1 since the incident!
August 24, 2007 at 5:29 pm
Wow, Maddux failed to bunt. Wow. Shocking!!
August 24, 2007 at 5:30 pm
52: He didn’t want to deprive anyone of the chance to GIDP.
August 24, 2007 at 5:34 pm
NO GIDP THIS INNING! NO GIDP THIS INNING!
August 24, 2007 at 5:36 pm
JENGA!!!!
August 24, 2007 at 5:36 pm
EVEN BETTER THAN NO GIDP!
August 24, 2007 at 5:37 pm
OH MILTY! WAY TO TELL THEM TO GO TO HELL!!!!
August 24, 2007 at 5:37 pm
I’m lovin’ Bradley’s bat. Not lovin’ Bradley’s sportsmanship.
August 24, 2007 at 5:37 pm
Back to back!
August 24, 2007 at 5:38 pm
BACK-TO-BACK!!!
August 24, 2007 at 5:38 pm
What was that, Quis, about Moyer’s “another good start” against the Pads? Usually you wait until a guy pitches at least 5 full innings.
August 24, 2007 at 5:38 pm
Man, Khalil better get going. Adrian has zoomed by him as team home run leader.
August 24, 2007 at 5:39 pm
58: He was fired up from the Marcus incident. I love to see that he cares.
August 24, 2007 at 5:39 pm
What did Bradley do?
August 24, 2007 at 5:40 pm
64: After hitting the HR (which was a no doubter) he flung the bat hard, kind of like saying, “Take that, bitches”. He apparently stared down Ruiz as he crossed the plate, but I didn’t see that myself.
August 24, 2007 at 5:41 pm
64: He slammed the bat down in victory. I saw it from across the room and thought he was slamming it down in frustration out of hitting a lazy pop fly. But it was him gloating or whatever.
I know it’s him caring and “Milton being Milton”. But just doesn’t seem like Padres baseball sometimes.
August 24, 2007 at 5:42 pm
66: I stand corrected. I have the sound off so I dunno what’s going on, but apparently Milton thought he got under it too much. I thought it was gone off the bat, but apparently Milty didn’t think he got it all.
August 24, 2007 at 5:43 pm
You know, I could totally see poor sportsmanship as an unexploited skill. You get someone that will regularly piss off the other team and then enjoy the extra 5-10 times someone reaches base because of a HBP.
August 24, 2007 at 5:43 pm
67: No, I think you’re right. When I saw the replay it looked like he was doing it in victory. I just couldn’t see very well from across the room and on my mlb.tv connection.
August 24, 2007 at 5:44 pm
Apparently even the Phils announcers are saying that Milton’s HR was a cheapie, so I don’t think he flung the bat in celebration as I originally thought. Apparently he hit a Citizens Banks gimme, so I think we can all just be proud it went out and leave it at that.
August 24, 2007 at 5:46 pm
69: I called my parents (who are back in SD) since I had the sound off. On SD4, they’re saying his initial reaction was one of frustration since he thought he got under it.
This is further corroborated by the Phils announcers bitching that it wasn’t a legit HR. I think he was pissed he didn’t get enough, and then he did.
August 24, 2007 at 5:46 pm
70: Alright, I’ll drop it for now. I’m sure there’ll be plenty of opportunities to bring this kind of thing up in the future.
GO PADRES!!!
August 24, 2007 at 5:48 pm
I love Kouz’s slide. Probably unnecessary, but better safe than sorry.
Glad to see the Padres playing well thus far. We need to keep this up.
August 24, 2007 at 5:48 pm
Ouch, NOG got PH by Silent L. Man, what’s Pepe thinking with leads? We need the defense now.
August 24, 2007 at 5:49 pm
74: Marcus could be hurt? I hope not…
But yeah, NOG should be playing D, not Geoff “I can’t field an IF” Blum.
August 24, 2007 at 5:49 pm
61. Quis is terrible…. when Matty V. isn’t on the screen during the pre-game, I know it’s a “radio night”.
August 24, 2007 at 5:53 pm
Re: 66
Maybe we could use some more fire…I like the display of energy and heart this time of the season. When was the last time we had a team that showed any kind of passion? We don’t even have any cool HR dugout celebrations!
August 24, 2007 at 5:56 pm
Personally, I have absolutely no problem with Milton slamming the bat down. (if he did it out of victory, not frustration) It’s been a “chippy” game (to use a hockey term) and both teams are fired up…
I think it worst, and shows up the other team a lot more if you sit in the box to watch the home run (see Bonds, Barry) or do a ballerina twirl (see Soriano, Alfonso) than if you slam the bat a you’re running to first.
August 24, 2007 at 6:00 pm
re:66 I kinda liked the fire as welll…he would be the one guy that would scare the hell out of me if there was ever a bench clearing brawl. But he’s also an emotional leader of the team and we need that kindof fire in my opinion.
As for Blum for NOG…think it could be that we’re up 5 and BB is taking NOG out to avoid any kind of flare up between him and the Phillies? It looked like NOG and the catcher were going to get into it when he came up after the incident in the field…
August 24, 2007 at 6:02 pm
Bahhhhh… it was totally a bad call on my part. Last time I make comments based on things seen from across the room.
August 24, 2007 at 6:03 pm
80: We still love you Steve!
August 24, 2007 at 6:11 pm
79: Good point on the switch. Cool down to get the game in hand.
August 24, 2007 at 6:12 pm
GLB is reporting a hip pointer.
August 24, 2007 at 6:12 pm
yeah…that’s a good story…I think it’s to keep things from getting out of hand personally…
August 24, 2007 at 6:15 pm
You guys remember back when Kouz couldn’t hit to save his life?
Good times… good times…
August 24, 2007 at 6:18 pm
Gameday is saying it’s a leg injury. Let’s hope it’s a “leg injury”.
August 24, 2007 at 6:21 pm
He looked fine running the bases the inning after the “injury”…
August 24, 2007 at 6:21 pm
wow….who are these guys and what did they do with the Padres who can’t hit?
August 24, 2007 at 6:22 pm
Your new record won’t stand for long Texas Rangers!
August 24, 2007 at 6:24 pm
I just opened up the Padres notes from padres.com for today’s game, and this is the second paragraph:
“But the Padres have been hot the entire month of August, hitting .265 (197-for-743) entering Friday night’s game with the Phillies, their best mark in a month this season and the eighth best in the National League in August.”
When a .265 average is a sign that you’re hot…
But it’s sure looked good during this road trip.
August 24, 2007 at 6:31 pm
Alright, I’m convinced…
I’m going on mlb.com/shop right now and buying a giant Yankees bucket.
August 24, 2007 at 6:32 pm
Maddux pitching into the 7th inning? What? Buddy, get him out of there at the first sign of trouble!
August 24, 2007 at 6:33 pm
76 pitches and a 7 run lead and the bullpen was used a lot in NY
August 24, 2007 at 6:34 pm
Any word on Scott Hairston ? Has anyone heard anything about when he might be back ? The Pads are in trouble in the late innings when facing a lefty late in innings, as they don’t currently, outside of NOG/Blum, have someone off the bench that bats from the right hand side. They got lucky last night with Wagner facing Sledge, who looped an opposite field hit on what was sort of an ‘excuse me’ swing but going down the stretch we need to avoid this matchup. For this reason, Brady Clark may be an option to replace Sledge.
August 24, 2007 at 6:34 pm
He was at 69 pitches and it’s with a 7 run lead, so I’m ok with letting Maddux attack the seventh.
August 24, 2007 at 6:37 pm
94: I think Ensberg’s still on the bench, though he must be hurt if he wasn’t used last night against Wagner. In today’s notes on padres.com they mention Hairston’s probably not going to be ready to come off the DL tomorrow when he’s eligible. It sounds like he’s somewhat close, but it might be another week.
August 24, 2007 at 6:42 pm
#94 - Of course, brain cramp….I forgot about Ensberg. I would be surprised if Morgan didn’t get a start on Sunday, just to keep him somewhat tuned.
I would imagine a Lake Elsinore/Portland assignment for Hairston is in the works …if we add him to the roster in mid -September then I think he will be eligible for the post season because he was injured before the deadline.
August 24, 2007 at 6:42 pm
You cannot stop Kouz, you can only hope to contain him by hitting him with a pitch to hold him to one base.
August 24, 2007 at 6:42 pm
Bard is REDHOT right now. Just in the nick of time !
August 24, 2007 at 6:44 pm
Alright Geoff, ground into a double play here to finish this game a little quicker so I can go waste my time doing something else for the rest of the night.
August 24, 2007 at 6:47 pm
How many of those high (over) priced FA’s is Maddux having a better year than ? Suppan, Schmidt, Zito, Weaver, etc.
All those that complained about the Maddux signing –calling it second rate and rationalizing it as a PR move that won’t bring much value “on” the field —citing it as an example of the Padres being cheap or thrifty w/o really caring much about improving the team.
August 24, 2007 at 6:50 pm
Poor Ledezma, he can’t even get into this game.
August 24, 2007 at 6:53 pm
God damnit Blum. Get off my TV!
August 24, 2007 at 6:55 pm
I’m too embarrassed to make a comment.
August 24, 2007 at 7:02 pm
The Phillies bullpen has Tom Gordon, Antonio Alfonseca, and Joe Table. That is an awesome pen, regardless of performance.