IGD: Padres @ Brewers (29 Sep 07)
Sat, Sep 29, 2007
by Geoff Young
| time: | 12:55 p.m. PT |
| tv: | FOX |
| sp: | Chris Young (9-8, 3.13) vs Dave Bush (12-10, 5.16) |
| pre: | B-R.com |
Now would be a fantastic time for the good Chris Young to make an appearance. Go Padres!
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September 29, 2007 at 8:49 am
Let’s get this finished today. Khalil is the man. Great KG article in the UT today:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/.....livan.html
September 29, 2007 at 8:57 am
If the Padres win the WC, its 2 away, 2 at home 1 away in the NLDS right? I cant remember if they changed that or not
September 29, 2007 at 9:12 am
Not sure…….but just bought game 5 NLDS tix……IF it goes that long and IF they get in.
September 29, 2007 at 9:56 am
1: That’s a great find. Thanks for pointing it out.
September 29, 2007 at 10:07 am
Love this quote:
“Of course I’ve thought about it [100 RBI] and it would be nice,” he said. “But at the same time, it’s a number. It’s just something that looks better on the scoreboard or on your baseball card and all that type of stuff.
The guy would be a terrific role model for kids. He’s seriously awesome.
September 29, 2007 at 10:14 am
scoreboard watching starts now
September 29, 2007 at 10:19 am
5: You really are a Khalil lover huh? I think they have self help books for this kind of thing.
As cool as it is that KG is down to earth and supposively doesnt care about the numbers or the money, it would be nice to see him show a little emotion here and there. Walk off hits, big home runs, we are lucky to see a smile. Ir would be nice to see if he is actually having fun out there.
“He could be a role model for robots.”
September 29, 2007 at 10:20 am
5: Exactly. And the complete antithesis of Bradley.
This is why my padres t shirt has 03 on the back and not 15.
September 29, 2007 at 10:27 am
Mets up 2-0. Probably pandemonium at Shea.
September 29, 2007 at 10:30 am
Two things:
Is Dave Bush the guy Kouzmanoff hit a grand slam off of in his first Big League AB?
Does Jason Lane get a start today in Left or Center? (4-7 lifetime off of Bush)
September 29, 2007 at 10:32 am
RE: 7
Does Khalilbot dream of Electric Sheep?
September 29, 2007 at 10:41 am
7: What’s the problem with me being a huge fan of his? Why does he have to show emotion?
September 29, 2007 at 11:02 am
KG is just a different cat. Guessing his emotion is directed towards being the best ball player he can be and not wasting energy on throwing helmets or wallowing in self pity or self importance.
I’ll state it straight up, the dude is friggen cool. Baseball is just an extension of his meditation.
I would love to see him hit a walk off and pump his fist Kirk Gibson style just to make everyone crack up laughing.
September 29, 2007 at 11:14 am
Some frightening splits on CY:
PRE: pre-injury, including the game he had to leave (7/24)
PST: post oblique injury
PRE: 118.2 IP, 78H, 30R, 24ER, 4HR, 39BB, 114K, 2.9 K/BB, 1.82 ERA, 8.7 K9
PST: 48.1 IP, 38H, 34R, 34 ER, 5HR, 29BB, 46K, 1.6 K/BB, 6.36 ERA, 8.6 K9
From these numbers and watching him, it is all about his control. BB’s way up, with his K rate constant. So, when he can throw strikes, he is still hard to hit. No great hypotheses about why his HR rate is so much higher. Behind in count? His H/IP is higher as well, but not as dramatic as a change in the HR rate.
So, if we see him struggling with his command, watch out. And, watching him in the SF loss, he seemed to have his control early, but it left him quickly, though he seemed to regain it later. Hopefully whatever remnant back and oblique stuff is getting better.
September 29, 2007 at 11:15 am
8: coming out of the closet
I personally have a soft spot for Bradley, been somewhat a fan since his Cleveland days. I don’t know why, I know it’s not very justified…I think I have a thing for “misunderstood” people. This coming from a guy who feels nothing for Tony Gwynn now that he doesn’t play for the Padres. I don’t make sense.
I admire KG but I do find his bot-ness a lil boring
September 29, 2007 at 11:19 am
Well, the Mets decided to show up today… They’re up 8-0 in the 3rd.
September 29, 2007 at 11:21 am
Re 14: Walks up & unlucky… Look at that hit-rate.
Pre: 78 H in 128 IP
Post: 38 H in 48 IP
He’s still not giving up hits, but what few hits he does allow scores runs.
September 29, 2007 at 11:31 am
Funny quote from Cassel on his bunt
“I figured they were going to let it roll foul,” Cassel said. “Actually, until I saw Bud on the top step hollering for the ball, I didn’t understand what the commotion was at first. Then it dawned on me that it was my first hit … a hit that I crushed a whole four feet.”
September 29, 2007 at 11:48 am
Question for the gang to ponder … Should the Padres skip Young today? It sure seems like it might help him in the post-season to get a bit of rest now … one variation this idea is to skip him today and use him tomorrow if there’s any benefit to a W tomorrow … play the Stauffer/Thompson card today (I’m pretty sure that Stauffer would be the guy I’d give that nod to, based on what he did in August for Portland) …
September 29, 2007 at 11:53 am
The NLDS is a 2-2-1 format now but unless the Padres win the NL West there won’t be a Game 5 here. Oside Jon, did you get an option of what game to buy? Most likely there won’t be a Game 5 here, will you get to switch to game 3 or 4?
September 29, 2007 at 12:00 pm
19: Though CYs numbers suggest he is still hurt, neither he nor the Padres seem to think he is (at least they don’t say so). Skipping him requires admitting that he is not right, which I don’t think they will do. Perhaps he really is OK, but just doesn’t have confidence in his delivery (i.e method for unfolding a 6′ 10″ body repeatably enough) yet. Doesn’t he often spend spring training getting tuned for similar reasons? In this case, today might be a great opportunity, facing a team who has never seen him…
But just in case, if I were Buddy Black I would have Stauffer warming up in the clubhouse (out of view) or something, ready to come in if Young has early control problems that turn ugly…
September 29, 2007 at 12:07 pm
20: Now? That’s what it’s been for many years, no?
September 29, 2007 at 12:19 pm
22: Well, it used to be the 2-3 format I though, at least way back when the NLCS was a best of 5. I’m not sure when they switched to the 2-2-1 but it’s been awhile.
September 29, 2007 at 12:21 pm
You’re right tho - Oside Jon needs an NL West crown for a game 5 to happen at Petco.
September 29, 2007 at 12:22 pm
It’s always fun to see the two sides line up on the opposite sides of the Khalil issue. whose turn is it to bait the other?
September 29, 2007 at 12:22 pm
The switched in 1998 to the 2-2-1 so they only played the 2-3 for three years in the Wild Card era.
September 29, 2007 at 12:33 pm
#20 Ouch….I just bought tickets for a game that will probably never happen!!!! Schlom…..I bought “Home Game #3 (if required)”.
September 29, 2007 at 12:37 pm
eeek….is this game blacked out from mlb.tv for anyone else?
September 29, 2007 at 12:41 pm
28: Hey Eric, I don’t know where you are (I am not in SD), but I’ve got the game on FOX
September 29, 2007 at 12:42 pm
I didn’t realize it’s been that recent.
September 29, 2007 at 12:44 pm
27: Yep game three is only for the team with home-field advantage, so you need two Padres wins and two D’backs losses.
September 29, 2007 at 12:51 pm
Why is the intro for the Phillies vs Nationals playing on my TV right now?
I’m about to destroy somebody’s face.
September 29, 2007 at 12:54 pm
I’m in NY and I’ve got the Phillies on Phox. Phuck!
why why why would mlb.tv black out a game somewhere where it’s not playing on TV? it always happens and pisses me off.
September 29, 2007 at 12:56 pm
33: Why can’t they throw the Padres game on another one of their stupid freaking networks that no one watches!!!
THIS IS SO ANNOYING!!!
Great, I’ve already missed a first pitch double.
If you’re somebody, and you bring my face anywhere near me, trust me, it’s going to be destroyed.
September 29, 2007 at 12:57 pm
32,33: I feel for you guys, had similar things happen to me earlier in the season. Perhaps a local sports bar has every game on?
September 29, 2007 at 12:59 pm
I don’t understand, how hard is it to confirm what games are playing in what city and let mlb.tv run it?
September 29, 2007 at 1:01 pm
Next year I’m opening up a bank account in Japan and using that information to register for mlb.tv
September 29, 2007 at 1:04 pm
steve, perhaps we should just destroy each other’s faces so we can both feel better
*fume
September 29, 2007 at 1:04 pm
36: National blackout, Fox has all games before 7 on Saturdays
37: A VPN fools mlb.tv on your location
September 29, 2007 at 1:04 pm
I think it is the IP address, not your zipcode. I am in France right now on vacation, the game is not blacked out on MLB TV
September 29, 2007 at 1:08 pm
39&40: [checking up on VPNs now!!!] thank you guys!!!
September 29, 2007 at 1:09 pm
O’Side John: If you bought that ticket this morning, it is for the NLCS, not the division series. NLCS goes 2-3-2. Therefore, game five would be in San Diego.
September 29, 2007 at 1:09 pm
39: ALL games? but don’t they still broadcast by region? Why would they black out a Padre game to ppl in the East Coast who get the Phillies on Fox?
September 29, 2007 at 1:11 pm
CY sets them down in order thru the first. Maine carried a no-no into the eighth? Wow. Impressive composure. Says nice things to me if I’m the GM.
September 29, 2007 at 1:12 pm
40: You’re right . It’s the IP adddress. I’ve been out of town and picked up games where I’d be blacked out at home.
September 29, 2007 at 1:12 pm
43: The lack of choice probably increases viewership on whatever game Fox chooses to broadcast
September 29, 2007 at 1:13 pm
Good to hear Matt V. on Fox doing a Padres game.
September 29, 2007 at 1:16 pm
46: makes sense. I’ll rebel by not watching the Phillies game
September 29, 2007 at 1:17 pm
So, there was an article about a pitcher some time this week (can’t remember the pitcher), but it described the pitcher as having what batters called “late life”. Apparently, this guy’s fastball didn’t sink at the end like most fastballs, and since hitter’s have to rely on predictive memory to hit pitches (because they can’t adjust to the last 5-8 feet), it causes the ball to seem like it has “late life”. I have to imagine that this is what hitters think about CY when he is on. Judging by the number of “just missed” fly balls when CY is pitching, it must be that hitters think the ball is going to predictably sink more than it actually does…
September 29, 2007 at 1:18 pm
Good start by CY. If they want to go anywhere in the playoffs they obviously need him to pitch like early season CY. Maybe they’ll be better now that St. Louis isn’t in.
September 29, 2007 at 1:21 pm
Steve, are you watching the Phillies game?
September 29, 2007 at 1:23 pm
Well, that proves it. Anyone can steal on CY. Unreal.
September 29, 2007 at 1:26 pm
51: No, I’m trying to figure out how to disguise my IP address. i’ve downloaded IP Anonymizer and that’s not working so far. If I figure something out I’ll let you know.
And don’t feel like you protesting by not watching the Phillies will do anything. Unless you have a Nielsen box no one knows what you’re watching.
September 29, 2007 at 1:26 pm
Rich Campbell, this is the page I went to this AM to buy tickets……
http://sandiego.padres.mlb.com.....SDds092607
Believe it’s for NLDS……I have no idea what I’m doing……Thanks everyone for the help.
September 29, 2007 at 1:29 pm
Can anyone watching the game describe that triple? Did Giles go for it and miss, causing an extra base?
September 29, 2007 at 1:30 pm
49: I’ve noticed CY holds the ball really deep in his hand for his fastball grip. Combined with his extra large hands I think that helps him get tremendous backspin, which would keep the ball from sinking and cause that rising fastball effect.
Now that there are formulas for calculating spin based on the Gameday data I’ll have to see if I can determine if that’s what’s happening.
September 29, 2007 at 1:30 pm
Those darn walks.
September 29, 2007 at 1:31 pm
56: Cool stuff.
September 29, 2007 at 1:31 pm
55, No, it was well-hit but a broken bat, landed maybe several feet inside the right field foul line and then rattled around in the corner. Possible that Giles didn’t get to it as fast as humanly possible, but he did the the ball in pretty fast. They had a decent shot at Jenkins, but he made it…
September 29, 2007 at 1:32 pm
11: Nice Phillip K Dick reference.
Let’s win this today. I don’t care if it’s NL West crown or WC, the Padres need to get into the playoff. I’m so amped up right now.
Come on CY! Go Padres!
September 29, 2007 at 1:34 pm
re: 54
Okay, looks like they released the tix they had on hold for people that purchased new season tix for next year.
So, yeah… you’re screwed if we don’t win the division.
September 29, 2007 at 1:34 pm
56: I haven’t thought about this too much, but it seems to me holding the ball deeper in the hand would cause less backspin. Doesn’t backspin have to come from the ball rolling off the fingers?
Giles with another double!
September 29, 2007 at 1:34 pm
Man, nothing sucks the life out of a telecast like Bud Selig and his blathering
September 29, 2007 at 1:36 pm
62: I think the increased surface area that’s in contact with the ball allows for more spin to be imparted. Of course if you hold it too far back it becomes a palmball and acts like a change up. I think CY just has really long fingers so he can hold it far back and get a lot of traction.
September 29, 2007 at 1:41 pm
64. Ok, I can see that. People used to point out Pedro Martinez’ freakishly long fingers when talking about how much movement he could get on the ball, as well….
September 29, 2007 at 1:43 pm
59: Thanks
September 29, 2007 at 1:44 pm
BTW, I just to let everyone know I called it…
Before the season started, I said the Padres would be better in ‘07 than they were in ‘06 but that they might not win the division…
September 29, 2007 at 1:47 pm
#67: Peter, you did call it. However, I wish that you weren’t so correct. It would be nice to win the NLW outright for the 3rd time in a row.
September 29, 2007 at 1:48 pm
Re spin: part of what made Padro great (back when he still threw 93-98) was his extra long fingers… Having bigger hands/longer fingers does allow for increased spin and more “rise” on the 4-seam FB as well helping his ability w/ breaking pitches.
September 29, 2007 at 1:49 pm
68: trust me, I’d rather have the Div. title than be right…
September 29, 2007 at 1:55 pm
C’mon….grand slam CY!!!
September 29, 2007 at 1:55 pm
Kinda wierd listening to Matty on a nationaly broadcast game when he’s not supposed to be biased towards the Padres.
September 29, 2007 at 1:58 pm
72: yeah…
I just sent Matt an e-mail regarding his discussion of home-grown vs. traded-for players:
Home-grown reguars:
Khalil Greene & Jake Peavy
Traded-for:
Hitters:
Bard
Gonzalez
Kouzmanoff
Bradley
Hairston
Cameron
Giles
Barrett
Sledge
Pitchers:
Young
Hensley (though he was traded for while low enough in the minors he could be in either column)
Hoffman
Meredith
Bell
Thatcher
September 29, 2007 at 2:01 pm
Matty V throws in a “Ferris Beuller’s Day Off” reference…
Often hard to do while calling a baseball game…
September 29, 2007 at 2:02 pm
Who’s injured?!?!?
September 29, 2007 at 2:04 pm
56: Great idea! I’d love to see it.
And I agree with Pedro and the long fingers. Would they help with the change too? Anyway, he had a great change.
September 29, 2007 at 2:04 pm
75: What injury are you talking about?
September 29, 2007 at 2:04 pm
Giving up on trying to disguise my IP address.
I hate you fox.
I hate you mlb.tv
I hate you someone else’s face.
September 29, 2007 at 2:05 pm
Pretty impressive list, Peter.
September 29, 2007 at 2:08 pm
For the record, in my book that should have been strike three. The 1-1 pitch looked awfully good to me. I think Froemming’s right arm hurts from getting hit last inning and he doesn’t want to raise it up…
September 29, 2007 at 2:08 pm
77: Gameday had said there was an injury delay… I imagine now that it was a foul ball off a shoe or something..
September 29, 2007 at 2:10 pm
Nats up 2-0 in 4th.
September 29, 2007 at 2:11 pm
injured ump… Frem took a foul-tip to the bicept
September 29, 2007 at 2:13 pm
And Froemming just took a firm shot to the mask…
September 29, 2007 at 2:13 pm
And Froem takes a foul-tip to the facemask…
September 29, 2007 at 2:14 pm
Pretty tough old bird, they just reminded us he is 68…
September 29, 2007 at 2:18 pm
Fellas, we’re getting a pretty strong start from CY here. Seems like through 4 he’s really had his stuff back. Hate to see the pitch count so high, but love to see him getting lots of bad contact and lots of strikeouts.
September 29, 2007 at 2:19 pm
Payback for that call at 1st last night. What was he thinking? I have the deepest respect for Bruce and I want him to go out on a high note. One of the best umps to ever officiate a MLB game.
September 29, 2007 at 2:20 pm
don’t ask Hairston to bunt!
September 29, 2007 at 2:20 pm
OG doubles on a sharp ground ball to 2nd base? Um, someone want to describe this one? Diving ball booted to far? Ball it bag and ricocheted into short right center? What gives?
September 29, 2007 at 2:21 pm
90: Sorry, can’t help for this one, I had to step away for a bit…
September 29, 2007 at 2:21 pm
son of a…
September 29, 2007 at 2:22 pm
Damn.
September 29, 2007 at 2:23 pm
rifled down the line and off the corner that juts out of medium-depth RF foul line..
September 29, 2007 at 2:23 pm
OG is now 4 of 10 on steals this year. No more green lights for him.
September 29, 2007 at 2:23 pm
Peter, nice to have you in the IGD. Thanks.
September 29, 2007 at 2:23 pm
10 runners left on base through 5……
September 29, 2007 at 2:24 pm
Wow, I hope we get a nice thank-you card for that inning.
September 29, 2007 at 2:26 pm
We’re trying to keep Colorado & NL East #2 in it…
September 29, 2007 at 2:27 pm
That ball four was awfully close as well, don’t we think?
September 29, 2007 at 2:27 pm
uh-oh..
September 29, 2007 at 2:27 pm
There’s the make-up call!
September 29, 2007 at 2:28 pm
EXCELLENT! BUNTED INTO DP
September 29, 2007 at 2:28 pm
Sweet DP!
September 29, 2007 at 2:29 pm
Weeks has some kind of juice…