IGD: Padres vs Diamondbacks (28 Jul 08)
Mon, Jul 28, 2008
by Geoff Young
Padres vs Diamondbacks
7:05 p.m. PT
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Picking up where last year's version left off, the Ducksnorts 2008 Baseball Annual provides in-depth analysis of and commentary on the San Diego Padres. Get your copy today.
July 28, 2008 at 6:21 pm
For your pre-game entertainment, you can read about Tony Gwynn’s return to Cooperstown … this time, as one of “them” …
http://www.signonsandiego.com/.....gwynn.html
… always good to hear from Tony!
July 28, 2008 at 6:27 pm
#1@LynchMob: Good link. Thanks LM.
July 28, 2008 at 6:31 pm
If you haven’t read Dirk Hayhurst’s lastest “Non-Prospect Diary”, you should …
http://www.baseballamerica.com.....66553.html
… he’s just tellin’ like it is!
July 28, 2008 at 6:39 pm
I know they weren’t Padres as a rule, but it nice to see two members of the 1984 Padres go into the Hall.
July 28, 2008 at 6:47 pm
#4@Kevin: making 3 … so far
July 28, 2008 at 6:52 pm
The only other possible candidates are Nettles and you-know-who.
July 28, 2008 at 6:52 pm
Chase has been slumping lately … gets the night off tonight …
Scott Hairston, LF
Edgar Gonzalez, 2B
Brian Giles, RF
Adrian Gonzalez, 1B
Kevin Kouzmanoff, 3B
Jody Gerut, CF
Khalil Greene, SS
Nick Hundley, C
Greg Maddux, P
July 28, 2008 at 6:55 pm
#6@Kevin: Thank-you for not mentioning his name, that was very sensative of you
… also, don’t rule out that Bochy takes the Giants to 10 consecutive World Series’ and gets into the HoF that way … it could happen … and he was one of the backup catchers on that 1984 squad …
http://www.baseball-reference......1984.shtml
July 28, 2008 at 7:00 pm
#8@LynchMob: I think Kevin McReynolds has a better shot.
July 28, 2008 at 7:01 pm
SAN DIEGO — Chris Young has no apprehension about returning to the mound for the first time since he was hit in the face by Albert Pujols’ line drive more than two months ago, breaking his nose and fracturing his skull.
The San Diego Padres’ 6-foot-10 right-hander is scheduled to start Tuesday night against the Arizona Diamondbacks at Petco Park.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn.....id=3508830
July 28, 2008 at 7:03 pm
#91@Kevin: good point. I just really feel that either Kouz or Headley have to go.
July 28, 2008 at 7:12 pm
#11@Masticore317: Why is that?
July 28, 2008 at 7:18 pm
#12@Kevin: Because I see Headley as the better fit at 3B, and not just because he’s the better defender. He’s more of the OBP guy the Padres are looking for.
July 28, 2008 at 7:19 pm
With Gerut (353 OBP, 418 SLG) in the lineup, Hairston (311, 518) continues to bat leadoff.
July 28, 2008 at 7:23 pm
#14@Kevin: I’m guessing here, but I think it’s because Hairston has performed far better as the leadoff than anywhere else. Plus he’s red hot at the moment, so they’re probably just leaving him alone.
July 28, 2008 at 7:24 pm
#13@Masticore317: I just think he has to prove he is better than Kouz in the majors before the Padres do something rash.
July 28, 2008 at 7:26 pm
Gammons absolutely slams Manny.
http://insider.espn.go.com/esp.....mons_peter
July 28, 2008 at 7:27 pm
#15@Masticore317: I bet you’re right. That is probably Black’s reasoning. I just question it.
July 28, 2008 at 7:30 pm
#9@Kevin: Me too.
July 28, 2008 at 7:34 pm
#16@Kevin: understood, and I can respect that notion.
July 28, 2008 at 7:35 pm
Woo Khalil!
July 28, 2008 at 7:35 pm
#18@Kevin: He wanted someone on base for Greene.
July 28, 2008 at 7:36 pm
A HR followed by a ducksnort. Too bad Mad Dog can’t bat his way out of a paper sack.
July 28, 2008 at 7:43 pm
#22@Field39: Well played. Darn, I missed the scoring.
July 28, 2008 at 7:46 pm
#24@Kevin: Let’s hope there’s more to come …
July 28, 2008 at 7:49 pm
Down on the Farm … Pelzer with a *GREAT* outing …
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....x_ftwafx_1
… 7 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 10 Ks … yowza!
July 28, 2008 at 7:51 pm
#3@LynchMob: Speaking of stinky … Hayhurst didn’t pitch so well tonight …
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....a_nasaaa_1
… but LeBlanc sure did: 5 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 6 Ks!
And enough offense to be leading 3-2 after 8 …
July 28, 2008 at 7:53 pm
Huffman with HR #7 for San Antonio tonight …
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....x_friaax_1
July 28, 2008 at 7:56 pm
Kouz is smokin.
July 28, 2008 at 8:00 pm
Greene working on his OBP, the hard way.
July 28, 2008 at 8:02 pm
I don’t know what I liked better… the home run, or Matty V’s reaction to it.
July 28, 2008 at 8:03 pm
I don’t mean to dis the Padres … but something seems wrong with Owings … he was lights-out in April and has been getting steadily worse and worse ever since … anyone watching have a sense that he’s not 100% healthy?
July 28, 2008 at 8:07 pm
#27@LynchMob: And Jack-aNulty strikes again for Portland (3rd HR since his return to AAA) … they now lead 4-2 headed to bottom of 9th …
July 28, 2008 at 8:09 pm
#33@LynchMob: AAAA
July 28, 2008 at 8:11 pm
#34@Field39: How about Jack-AAAAnulty? I don’t disagree … for now …
July 28, 2008 at 8:14 pm
#28@LynchMob: I filmed the blast. Hopefully it came out well.
Matthew Buschmann was lights out for 7 innings tonight. Buschmann reminds me a lot of Geer.
July 28, 2008 at 8:18 pm
Whoa!!!! I’m on the phone for 20 minutes and we’re up 8-3! Holy Santa Maria!
July 28, 2008 at 8:19 pm
#36@JP: Way to go, JP … get that up on YouTube ASAP!
July 28, 2008 at 8:19 pm
So, how is it that Portland has just gotten better after losing half of their lineup to the major league team?
July 28, 2008 at 8:21 pm
#39@Geoff B: Maybe the major league team, got the wrong half.
July 28, 2008 at 8:25 pm
Hairston should have batted eighth. He is the only one who can’t get it done tonight.
July 28, 2008 at 8:27 pm
#41@Kevin: Early inning at bats are wasted on Hairston. Have him start every game in the fifth of sixth.
July 28, 2008 at 8:27 pm
Maybe I’m wrong …
… But who invented this malarkey about Bob Melvin’s bullpen managment in explaining the D’backs’ negative run differential last season? I ask because Matty V. is bringing it up. What manager out there doesn’t call on a mop-up man to “take one for the team” in a lopsided game, leaving him out there even if he gives up a couple of runs?
This idea that Melvin was even fairly unique in preserving his top-shelf relievers for close games and using his second-tier guys for primarily lopsided-type losses seems silly to me.
July 28, 2008 at 8:32 pm
#43@Stephen: Word.
July 28, 2008 at 8:33 pm
#39@Geoff B: What part of Jack-AAAAnulty don’t you understand?
Yes, he’s thAAAAt good!
And don’t forget StAAAAnsberry, ThAAAAtcher, and CAAAAmeron …
Seriously, there’s also Peter Ciofrone who’s recently been added to the team and is on fire … and Venable’s been doing very well lately …
July 28, 2008 at 8:33 pm
I’m headed home, where I can watch the game.
July 28, 2008 at 8:34 pm
#33@LynchMob: Jack-Anulty returns! LM, I’m telling you, PMac got a kick outta it when I mentioned the name to him at Cooperstown!
July 28, 2008 at 8:34 pm
Raise your hand if you’re glad Melvin didn’t start Petit tonight?
July 28, 2008 at 8:35 pm
#47@Masticore317: It’s not going to be very often that “Jack-Anulty” and “Cooperstown” will be used in the same post/comment
July 28, 2008 at 8:37 pm
#49@LynchMob: No, you’re right - definitely a novelty.
BTW, if we blow this one on Maddux he’s going to start to develop a complex.
July 28, 2008 at 8:39 pm
Maddux is getting pretty deep …
Pitches-strikes - M Owings 69-39; Y Petit 32-24; G Maddux 81-52.
Ground balls-fly balls - M Owings 3-4; Y Petit 1-1; G Maddux 5-6.
Batters faced - M Owings 18; Y Petit 7; G Maddux 22.
… I’m nervous …
July 28, 2008 at 8:41 pm
#50@Masticore317: If you posted your story about talking to McAnulty @ Cooperstown, I think I missed it … what happened? I remember you went up for the HoF game that got rained out … I think I remember you took/posted some pics …
July 28, 2008 at 8:41 pm
The Prof. balked. But as soon as he did, he immediately said “My fault.” His first since 2000.
July 28, 2008 at 8:43 pm
Will the Thrill, now?
July 28, 2008 at 8:45 pm
Jesus, Ledezma is just so bad. I know teams like him because he’s left-handed and throws hard, but he’s just not any good. He’s going to give up this lead….I hope not, but I have little faith.
July 28, 2008 at 8:46 pm
I’m not sure that Ledezma or Thatcher deserve to be in the majors. Do we need a lefty that bad that we keep bringing these guys back?
July 28, 2008 at 8:46 pm
and using him as a LOOGY is the wrong way to use him.
And he just proved me wrong by K’ing Montero.
I’ll watch the game now and be quiet.
July 28, 2008 at 8:48 pm
It appears the professor knows that he is being traded (he would likely have to approve it). He tipped and waved his cap as in “thank you all for the cheers, I am gone”…Vasgersian seemed to know something was up as well.
July 28, 2008 at 8:51 pm
Can’t figure out who would trade for Maddux -most press seemed to have him waiving his no-trade only to a West Coast team, and I can’t imagine the Dodgers wanting him that badly, or the Angels. It would be nice if the Pads could turn Maddux into a decent prospect, though, so I’ll keep my fingers crossed.
July 28, 2008 at 8:52 pm
Thank you, Tony Clark.
July 28, 2008 at 8:53 pm
And the trade of Tony Clark pays off for the Padres!
July 28, 2008 at 8:54 pm
Nice to see Clay Hensley back. Can anybody tell me what his velocity is like? MLB.com had one pitch at 93 and there’s no way that’s legit. He didn’t throw that hard before he got hurt.
July 28, 2008 at 8:55 pm
I think Hensley will be a better bet out of the pen.
July 28, 2008 at 8:57 pm
Sawyer Carroll doing well at the plate tonight for Eugene …
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....x_yakasx_1
July 28, 2008 at 9:00 pm
#62@David Coonce: Gameday registered his two pitches at 89 mph.
July 28, 2008 at 9:01 pm
#61@Ben B.: A MadFriars commenter went to the Storm game on Sunday night and reported “Evan Scribner looked really sharp” … and took some good pics …
http://www.flickr.com/photos/d.....421659542/
July 28, 2008 at 9:04 pm
#65
Thanks. That’s pretty much right where he was at before the injury; seems more reasonable. I had high hopes for Hensley after that one good half season (2006); maybe he becomes a useful reliever/spot starter type.
July 28, 2008 at 9:06 pm
Matty is still talking about a Maddux trade.
July 28, 2008 at 9:08 pm
Every time Drew gets on base I think, “How’s Matt Bush doing these days?” When not getting in bar fights, Bush is currently rehabbing from TJ surgery after being shifted to the mound. AFter flaming out as a hitter. If he wasn’t the worst number 1 draft pick in baseball history, I’m not sure who was. It was a terrible pick not just becauise Bush didn’t pan out; that’s not fooreseeable. It was a poor pick because everybody thought Drew was a better choice, and the Pads front office passed on him simply because of money issues.
July 28, 2008 at 9:11 pm
It looks like Orlando Hudson pulled up (was he dogging it?) on that 7th inning groundout/fielders choice. By the way, he was out.
July 28, 2008 at 9:19 pm
#69@David Coonce: Fortunately he doesn’t get on base all that often, with a .313 OBP in a great hitters’ park.
July 28, 2008 at 9:20 pm
OT: I’m wondering what the wife of the guy who dances around in a friar robe and a fedora thinks about what her husband and if he has a real job.
July 28, 2008 at 9:20 pm
#69@David Coonce:
What about every time he doesn’t get on base? What you are saying is true but how many starting lineups would Stephen “.312 OBP” Drew even crack? What’s his defensive rep?
July 28, 2008 at 9:24 pm
#72@Turbine Dude:Clerk in a comic book store.
July 28, 2008 at 9:24 pm
#73@Stephen:
True, he’s not “great.” But he made it out of single-A; there is certainly value in being a major-league starting shortstop. His 312 OBP is roughly 65 points higher than Khalil Greene’s. Drew’s defense is average.
FWIW, The Padres also passed on Jered weaver and Jeff Niemann that draft, both because of perceived bonus demands. And the kicker? They paid Bush 3.1 million anyway.
July 28, 2008 at 9:27 pm
#38@LynchMob:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/55ztyw
Whole Huffman at bat, hits homerun on ball on outside corner. Some kind of strong to get that pitch out of the park. Listen to Terry Kennedy razzing at the end “get in the dugout”
July 28, 2008 at 9:29 pm
Oh yeah, and Drew may have cost the Padres a pennant last year. April 25th, bottom of the ninth, two out, walk-off two run homer by Drew off Hoffman. Do you remember how many games the Padres missed the postseason by last season?
July 28, 2008 at 9:34 pm
And now, up to bat, bases loaded….
Stephen Drew
Ugh…
July 28, 2008 at 9:35 pm
David, I don’t remember seeing you in the DS blog before. But, damn glad you are here.
July 28, 2008 at 9:36 pm
Man, Bell has not been Bell recently…
Overworked this year? Maybe?
July 28, 2008 at 9:36 pm
#76@JP: Thanks for the video, very cool. I can’t believe Huffman homered to left on that pitch.
July 28, 2008 at 9:37 pm
#78@David Coonce: All things considered, I would have preferred Verlander.
July 28, 2008 at 9:41 pm
#79@Turbine Dude: Thanks.
Frankly, this season I’ve just been too damn busy and too damn defeated to post….right now I have the flu, summer flu, can’t sleep and am watching the game on the computer. I’m glad to see the level of intelligence here is just as high as when I last posted! With the season out of reach, I may just be a more regular poster here.
July 28, 2008 at 9:43 pm
#81@Ben B.: I have a few more I will post as well. Buschmann looked good tonight. I like Blanks a lot — manager of SA a pretty intense guy in Masse ( I liked that Masse hated to lose this particular game )
July 28, 2008 at 9:47 pm
#76@JP: A 3-1 fastball to Huffman? He reaches for it … and “it’s outta here” … nice! THANKS for posting … nice to see the whole AB … well done! I feel like I was in Frisco
July 28, 2008 at 9:48 pm
2004 Major League Draft:
1. Matt Bush
2. Verlander
3 Phil Humber
4. Jeff Niemann
5. mark Rogers
6. Jeremy Sowers
7. Homer Bailey
8. Wade Townsend
9. Chris Nelson
10. Thomas Diamond
12 Jered Weaver
15 Stephen Drew
17 Scott Elbert
18 Josh Fields
22 Glen Perkins
23 Phil Hughes
Throw out the Rice Pitchers - Niemann, Humber and Townsend(they always get overworked in College and hurt in the majors), and allow for the fact that Nelson , Rogers and Diamond are probably busts, and you still have a whole bunch of guys better than Bush. Elbert, Hughes, Bailey, Sowers or Perkins would be the Padres’ best pitching prospect right now, and it wouldn’t even be close.
July 28, 2008 at 9:49 pm
#80@Richard D.: Not sure why Bell pitched tonight, other than Black not trusting his other 15 relievers.
July 28, 2008 at 9:51 pm
Only Hoffman and Hampson didn’t pitch tonight.
July 28, 2008 at 9:51 pm
#85@LynchMob: You don’t want to be in Frisco. It’s awfully hot right now.
July 28, 2008 at 9:53 pm
#87@Kevin: He wants a win, for Greg’s last start.
July 28, 2008 at 9:53 pm
#88@Kevin: Shoot, I spoke too soon.
July 28, 2008 at 9:55 pm
Way to manufacture a save opp, Bryan Corey.
In his past 11 games, Corey has given up 12 runs in 9 2/3 innings. Can we get rid of him now?
July 28, 2008 at 9:55 pm
Four nights in a row?
July 28, 2008 at 9:58 pm
Great strikeout. Two outs.
Taxes.
July 28, 2008 at 9:59 pm
Pop out.
Hoffman.
July 28, 2008 at 9:59 pm
Just for fun, here’s the Padres #1 draft picks this decade:
2000 - Mark Phillips, lhp. Bust (adrian Gonzalez was the first overall pick, by the Marlins, so this draft can’t be considered totally awful for SD)
2001 Jacob Gautreau, 1B. Bust.
2002 Khalil Greene, ss. Work in progress.
2003 Tim Stauffer. Bust
2004 Matt Bush. Bust
2005. Cesar Carillo. Bust
2006 Matt Antonelli. Too soon to tell; I think he’ll be a utility player in the majors
2007 Nick Schmidt. Probably a bust.
2008 Allen Dykstra. Probably won’t sign.
That’s not a great track record with drafts; it seems that going with signability guys hasn’t worked for San Diego this decade.
(I know there’s a game going on, I’m just curious myself.)
2007
July 28, 2008 at 10:00 pm
Maddux: 351 wins.
July 28, 2008 at 10:01 pm
Hoffman pitched three innings in four nights for four saves.
July 28, 2008 at 10:07 pm
http://tinyurl.com/63sko9
Inman working on his delivery in dugout
July 28, 2008 at 10:07 pm
Yay Padres; this season has been trying but at least we’re holding our own against Arizona.
July 28, 2008 at 10:12 pm
Gottta get up early. See you all tommorow….
July 28, 2008 at 10:13 pm
Jody Gerut: .285/.359/.426
July 28, 2008 at 10:15 pm
#100@David Coonce: Gotta do our part to help the division winner finish under .500.
July 28, 2008 at 10:18 pm
#103@Ben B.:
Agreed; then people can finally stop giving the 2005 Padres so much grief for only winning 84 games or whatever it was.
July 28, 2008 at 10:37 pm
It is selfish of me, because I know that Maddux is getting towards the end and deserves to go out a winner… but Greg has been a wonderful player to watch and it wouldn’t bother me to see him finish the year and maybe even come back for another. Mad Dog is a class act.
July 28, 2008 at 10:52 pm
#75@David Coonce:
KG is godawful.
I’m sure there were plenty of times Drew didn’t come through last year that contributed to a Diamondback loss. I’m not sure what cherrypicking one game - albeit a hugely frustrating one from a Padres POV - proves. I’d say Hairston’s antics cancel it out.
July 28, 2008 at 10:57 pm
http://tinyurl.com/5tawzs
See former Padres All Star Catcher-now Missions coach, Terry Kennedy at the end of this glimpse into the Missions dugout (Matthew Buschman congratulated at the beginning - Kennedy at the end)
July 28, 2008 at 11:03 pm
#106
Sure. I agree. But when a team misses the postseason by a single game, it’s easy to go through that whole season and find moments - Drew’s walk-off HR, Gwynn, Jr’s triple, etc. And you’re certainly right - The Padres won games they may not have thanks to Hairston. But the point I was trying to make is that in 2004 san Diego was bound and determined to draft a SS with the first overall pick in the draft, and they picked the wrong one, and they did it knowing it was the wrong one; not a single scout or FOT at the time rated Bush ahead of Drew. The Padres blew it, and it bit them on the ass, years later.
Imagine if San Diego had picked Drew and he had been successful; it may have allowed the Padres to trade him for help last year, or trade Khalil Greene, or move one of them to third, or….the possibilities are endless.
But the point is that Drew is a major leaguer, and Bush isn’t and will almost certainly never be. There is a value in having a major league player that you developed yourself; look at how few the Padres have for an example of how hard it is to develop your own talent. (San Diego currently has 3 homegrown players on its major-league roster)
July 28, 2008 at 11:07 pm
#108@David Coonce: Were they determined to take a shortstop? I’m really asking.
I thought they were determined to draft someone who was signable.
Plus, Greene was clearly better last year.
July 28, 2008 at 11:10 pm
Adrian: .281/.353/.518
Adams: 1.93 ERA, 44 Ks, 11 BB in 37.1 innings
July 28, 2008 at 11:14 pm
Greg Maddux: “I don’t know what’s going to happen. I really don’t. I hope I stay. You’d rather stay if you’re welcome. I like it here. The losing part stinks but the baseball is still baseball. It’s still fun to come to the park every day.”
Maddux passed Phil Niekro for 10th place on the all-time strikeouts list.