Padres (4-3) @ Giants (1-5)
Greg Maddux vs Matt Cain
1:35 p.m. PT
Channel 4SD
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The Padres were outscored, 23-22, over their opening homestand despite outhitting the opposition by a wide margin:
| BA | OBP | SLG | |
|---|---|---|---|
| Statistics are courtesy of ESPN and are through games of April 6, 2008. | |||
| Padres | .284 | .331 | .401 |
| Opponents | .193 | .275 | .320 |
Maybe on the road they can convert some of that offense into actual runs.
192 Comments
I guess the good thing is they’re hitting. Hopefully they can harness that hitting and get their score on.
Glad Maddux, Wolf, and Germano are facing the Giants. I don’t think we could have scheduled our rotation much better than that.
Wow, third day game in a row. What year is this? 1908? 1938?
1: Yup, but the opposing pitchers are Cain, Lincecum, Sanchez (?). Not an easy task.
::sniff:: ::sniff:: I smell a few 1-0 and 2-1 games this series.
4: as long as the Padres win those games.
Well since it’s Matt Cain throwing today, I’m thinking it’ll be 1-0 Giants going into the 8th, with Cain throwing a no-hitter. Cain will give up one hit, will get pulled immediately, and the first reliever in will give up a homer to Scott Hairston. So nobody panic when we’re being no-hit through 7.
Geoff,
Got my copy of the Annual (via LynchMob) and can’t get enough. Love the Dashboards and your trip to Cooperstown. Outstanding job and I like this one better than last year’s. Keep up the great work. My son continues to believe that Holliday did not touch the plate and is now sporting the T-Shirt to match!
Yesterday’s game was tough. I’m not jumping on Hoffy. We left far too many runners on base. Clutch hitting is still our problem. Looking forward to SF today and for the next few days. Hopefully our hitters can take advantage of their pitchers.
Last year, Matt Cain had 6 starts against the Padres. He threw 41 innings with 42 k’s and a 2.41 ERA. He was 0-3, and the Giants were 0-6 in those games.
8: Love it.
So he’s overdue to win one or three. Great.
RE: 10 with Benjie Molina batting 4th today I’m not sure how easy it will be for him to cah in his overdue chip today.
Looks like Barrett is becoming Maddux’ personal catcher.
12: Christ. Barrett’s catching. We’re totally gonna lose.
Re: 13 does that still aply under the 08 rules?
I hope not. We’re 0-2 so far though…
I’m calling a homer today for both OG and Kouz. I don’t know why but I just have a feeling Cain is going to get shelled. I know he is usually lights out against us but I got a feeling. Then again I had a feeling Matt Bush would come around at shortstop so who knows what I’m worth!
Re: gutsy call with OG
17.
Probably way too optomistic I know, but the way he turned on that one friday night really brought me some hope that he still some pop left and it reminded me of that game winning shot he had in SF last season.
here we go!
Iguchi!!!
wow tghats a quick start!
GONZO!!!!
Adrian!
Um, yeah, that’s a good start for us
AGONEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
With the SF offense, that should be enough!
viva el hombre
(in quiet i’m-at-the-office voice)
ESPN Gamecast made it look like Giles fly out was at the wall…true? And if so that’s to bombs hit off Cain in the first inning, a good sign indeed.
Signs that the end is here: Maddux gives up a lead-off walk
Not if, but when does Doc steal 2b?
That’s how you eliminate the SB threat. Maddux already with the nice D!
…and Edmonds is 0-for-3
Hmmm, that’s twice Edmonds has dove and missed and the runner ends up with a double. If he pulls up, it’s a single both times.
Getting the Giants home broadcast on XM. In between innings there was a commercial for Wells Fargo that they are going to donate $100 to some charity every time the Giants score this year …
that is going to cost them a couple thousand dollars this year.
… and kharma instantly bites me in the ass.
Might be a long day. When was the last time Maddux went 3-0 to a hitter twice in one inning?
OK, now he’s gone 3-0 three times…
Re: 28 — Yes…on the track.
Maddux is having issues finding the plate.
Maddux is having issues finding the plate.
36: Make that three times.
oops sorry about the double post
OK, this is too wierd
I hope Maddux’ 2nd inning is better than his 1st
Missed that Rowand double, did Edmonds look good going after the ball? If not, is it time to switch him and Hairston?
Watching the SF broadcast on MLB.com is different. They were just talking about Maddux being a sinkerball pitcher that, like many sinkerballers, get so excited early in the season they overthrow and lose sink.
yeah… sure doesn’t look like Maddux out there… hopefully he can adjust and settle down.
Schlom…no, he did not look good and came up short…but no, it is not time to switch them.
Good ABs so far
No one can find the plate
Good Sac. Come on Giles
or not
Man OG aproach is starting to look like Nog this year, he keeps taking hacks at the first pitch….
46: So they’re saying Maddux still hasn’t learned how to harness his stuff after what, 20 years in the big leagues?
Ha Game cast is saying that Maddux is throwing an 83 MPH Change up and a 84 MPH Fastball, I take it by Change up they mean sinker.
that’s better, Maddog
Yeah, Maddux’s pitches are very difficult to classify on mlb’s gameday. Mike Fast has a good look at how Maddux’s repertoire appears on that system. He throws primarily a 2 seam fastball, a cutter, and a changeup all clustered from 88 to 80 mph, and mixes in an occasional slider at around those velocities too.
http://fastballs.wordpress.com/2007/09/12/mad-dog-mishmash/
Well, Iguchi is looking like a good signing. And Gonzo follows it up with another knock. Come on Kouz
YES
Come on, get that key hit!!!
woohoo station to station baseball paysoff
There we go. Good job Edmonds. Keep the train moving!
c’mon KG. let’s put this game out of reach
nice sac KG
nice D leads to another run
Has anyone else noticed that the new MLB.TV premium 1.2M is delayed about 10-20 seconds from the real broadcast??
we’ll take the runs in any way shape or form. c’mon Barrett.
Looks like neither pitcher will be in the game come the 6th inning
Hopefully, that should be enough with the Giants’ offense.
is Maddux going to come inside to Rowand. outside, outside, outside…
This umps zone is tiny for both pitchers. I guess it’s fair, but it makes for a long game.
And a strikeout on the lower inner half
Wow, that’s some really awful baserunning by OG. The play’s in front of him, no excuse for getting double off.
did anyone see the double play, or was brian brain-farting for the second day in a row?
2 days, 2 base running mistakes for Giles. What is going on with this veteran?
75: Dunno, but I’m getting pretty tired of it. That and his hacking first-pitch yesterday really torqued me off.
is this the last year of his contract? if it is, do the padres take a chance of him accepting arb rather than testing the market? The team has to offer arb to get compensatory draft picks right?
At least that is 10 mil they have to spend next year…
77: He has an option for next year ($10 mil range) with a buy-out ($3 mil range).
77. They have a 3M buy out, if they don’t pick up his option.
maddux has definitely settled in. 23 pitches in the first, 38 in 2 through 4. please don’t let me jinx him.
Thanks Field39 and OkinawaPadres.
And nice AB by Kouz
78, 79. If the Padres do the buyout and OG becomes a FA, I assume the arbitration rules don’t apply and the Pads don’t get any draft picks?
OK, pull Cain. He’s killing my fantasy team
c’mon Hairston, put the game out of reach.
82: No idea on that one
okay, c’mon Barrett.
Well, that’s what Bochy was hoping for.
grrrr
82: No, I believe the Padres can still offer him arbitration and could still negotiate with him for a new deal even after buying out his old one. If they don’t want him back, though, they probably wouldn’t offer him arbitration because if he accepted, arbitration would guarantee him a salary that when added to the buyout would be greater than the original $10 million.
that was craptastic.
Darn you, Barrett.
89. thx, Ben B.
with arbitration, there is still the rule about not reducing a player’s salary by over 20% correct?
Anyone else watching the Giants’ broadcast? Their color guy sure sounds a lot like Mudcat Grant.
5 strikeouts! Maddux esta en fuego! Or the Giants’ hitters aren’t very good.
Does Buddy bat for Maddux or let him go one more? He’s due up first.
A couple of good at bats an intentional walk, then he hits into a double play on the first pitch. Just Barrett being Barrett.
92: Yep, that’s correct. That’s why the Cubs non-tendered Prior instead of going to arbitration with him.
Maddux has recovered nicely from a rough start. 50 pitches for innings 2-5 with one hit and no walks.
97: Accounting for the buyout, the Padres would have 7 mil to use for next year. That may be earmarked for Kouz though – at least a good portion of it.
99: Most likely they wont bring Maddux back either so thats another 10 million.
Re: 99 – Are you saying the Kouz is a “Super-2″ and eligible for arbitration after this season? I think he is under Padres control for another year, so any contract extension stuff would probably not start until 2010…I think.
Depending on what the various minor league Pad pitchers do, I could see bringing Maddux back for another 200 innings of 100 OPS+. In today’s market, that’s valuable.
95: Definitely. He looks good, has only given up 1 run and isnt exactly facing a terrifying line-up. I’d rather Maddux be out there instead of our ‘pen anyway.
102: I dont think he comes back, but if he does I dont think its for 10 million, most would argue he was overpaid this year.
CM, how was the game at Comerica? Sounds like a good weekend. Those food, hmmm.
Super-2 goes to arbitration, right?
Quick work there… does Maddux pitch the 7th?
Maddux has 13 groundouts against 0 fly outs. He’s given up three balls in the air all game: the bloop double to Rowand, the single to Molina, and the line drive to Velez that he made the play on.
Thanks…Comerica was fun, but you could see that the Tigers’ fans were getting restless. Those guys just don’t seem to have any fire right now…it really surprised me how little excitement they generated. Dontrelle had a no-no with 7 walks through 5…it was very weird. And, yes, the food was really good.
Super-2’s do go to arbitration, but I don’t think Kouz is one…I may be wrong though.
No seventh. He runs out of gas in a big hurry, when he goes much past 80 pitches.
If Hairston stays productive all year and P-Mac contributes as well I think this will be the last year Giles will be in a padres uni if for no other reason than to make room for Headley.
I don’t think Kouz is a Super-2, but I could see the Padres trying to tie up his next four years at an affordable price, buying out the arbitration years.
66 – yes. it makes for risky viewing.
Cla in the pen…
I think the Pads will try to tie up Kouz, Bell and Hairston (if he says productive) to 3 to 4 year deals this off season.
Re:11…I don’t disagree with you. It might very well happen.
Nice triple for Killer Greene right there!
Wooohooo a triple. I love those!
Shocked that KG did not catch AGon and his “blazing” speed.
Live in SF, work next to the park, so just came back (had to get back to the desk sometime). A treat to see the boys live. We should be winning this 8 or 9 to 1. And, man, Edmonds cannot play CF.
KG hit in the one place even AGon could score from first, other than a homer.
yeah baby – Khalil visits Triples Alley
WTG Greene!
If Edmonds continues to play a shakey CF will the pads move him to the bench?
Love it from my boy. I’m thinking he may sacrifice some power this year for a higher average. He’s got a really wide stance this year that will probably negate his power, but he’s putting more balls in play.
Love that the triple was to RCF. He hit several balls to right and right-center in the Dodgers series, so maybe he’s developing a bit as a hitter.
Nothing like a series against the Giants to right the ship.
122: Maybe move him to left or right.
That was such a sweet at bat for KG. He made Yabu throw 8 pitches, then crushed it.
Hey Phantom…If KG could put his OBP in the .340 range, I might actually get on the bandwagon!
93 – the SF color guy is Mike Krukow, the former Giants pitcher. The play-by-play guy is Duane Kuiper, and in my opinion, they’re excellent. I used to live in SF and listened to them call a lot of games. They are a lot like Matty V and Mud; irreverent, heavy users of inside jokes and recurring shtick, and excellent at analysis. Krukow especially; he does a great job breaking down pitchers and at-bats.
And yes, Krukow does kinda sound like Grant.
I’m “watching” on MLB Game Day, so missed why Barrett was pulled for Bard. Did he get hurt, or was Black just pissed by his poor plate appearances?
Mad Dog is throwing a helluva game today. Typical Maddux.
127: lol. He’s yet to draw a walk this year, but he seems to be having better ABs in general.
Wow, great to see Maddux doing so well. And nice to see the offense come out against Cain.
But mostly it’s just GREAT to be able to watch this live now that my internet is finally up and running (I was waiting for baseball season to bother with it). My first live Padres game since dreaded 163.
So, Maddux in innings 2-7, 70 pitches, 1 hit, no walks, 5 strikeouts.
Josh has really came into his own this year.
127: If Khalil got his OBP up to .340 he’d be an All-Star.
134: He’s looked good in the five games or so he’s played so far. Not sure if you can call that “coming into his own” or not.
127, 135: If he got his OBP up to .340 he’d be better than the NL MVP was last year.
136: His at bats look really good so far.
Re: 135…probably even more than that, he would be elite.
109: Looked good in the 7th to me. I was at the complete game last year. When Maddux has it working there is no reason to pull him. When he is “getting by” then I think you are right pull him after 80.
When did Buddy completely forget how to use his bullpen? Why the hell are we throwing Meredith up by 5? Don’t we have LOW LEVERAGE GUYS for this kind of thing? Why haven’t we seen Cla during the past two close games.
Seriously Bud, wtf?
Keystone Cops in the Giants’ right field.
127…135: For KG to have a .340 OBP he would have to hit .330 or higher haha
141: Agreed… like when the bases were loaded with 1 out and we really needed a DP ground ball… and we went with Rusch???
Re: 141…cause he is not an 8th inning high leverage guy right now….he needs to earn that back…or something…
143: Maybe if he hit 8th.
where did kouz get hit?
I love me some Kouz
Wow. What happened there?
Is Kouz OK?
Looks like it…
KG with 2 sac flies today. 3 RBI and a 2 for 4 day. Nice.
152: He’s actually 2 for 3 since the sac flies don’t hurt his line. I think he hit everything to RCF today too.
#134: Ditto.
Bardo….thanks for the knock…
And I love when they show the shots of Boch…makes me and my inner distaste smile. “Take that you Mike Cameron bunting guy.”
Bard should be starting… I thought he made that pretty evident with his performance vs Barrett’s last year
VIRGIN ISLANDS!!!! Go Callix
137, etc: If Khalil Greene got his OBP up to .340, he’d win a gold glove : )
158. No joke.
Giles has looked ugly at the plate (and on the bases) the last couple games
If Jeter can get one, so can KG.
158: Sad, but true.
Giles left a small village on the bases today.
161: Dont you know… Jeter is a phenomenal defender and his leadership skills and the field are second to none….. I love Yankees fans, one tried to tell me Jeter is a better defender than Reyes, making him a better player than Reyes in every facet of the game.
Gonzalez looks terrible so far.
164: That’s amazing. Jeter can’t field at all.
Will Gonzalez get an out?
Triple, Walk, Double, Single…
Cheap save opportunity for Trevor today?
If you can’t get the Giants out, you don’t deserve to be in the majors.
Is it bad that I just got nervous seeing Trevor?
Re: 164…what a joke…absolute joke.
167: There’s two.
Enrique Gonzales is trying to give the game away all by himself.
Somebody threw a baseball onto the field by Hairston when he caught that last out.
166: Tell that to NY and ESPN haha, I agree with you though and dont see how anyone would call him a “good” defender
What a bush league thing to do. A fan throwing another ball onto the field.
Gonzales is under strict orders to do anything necessary to make Hoffman feel better about his own recent performances.
Throwing things at ball players like that is not only dangerous, but it should be criminal…
Yes, that goes for syringe boy here in San Diego too.
176: Well, that’s San Francisco for you, I guess.
Wow, was this guy really better than the guys we sent down??? Bass, Zarate, etc…?
SF Fans: Always classy.
So, it looks like Adrian is back on track, huh?
Have a great day all…I can’t wait to get back to SoCal this week! Oh I can’t wait…
180: It’s hard to say after only a couple appearances, but it doesn’t look good.
on Jeter: Right, I’ve watched him all my life (living in NY) and I am certainly no scout, but I’ve never been overly impressed. I don’t know, if I had no clue about the advanced fielding stats, I’d probably figure he was a few runs below average. I could even see an argument that he’s decent; average(ish). I just can’t see how so many people think he’s a gold glove caliber guy.
I’d like to see Guevara up to take Gonzalez’s or Ledezma’s place as the mop up guy of choice. I don’t think it’ll be very long before Ledezma and Gonzalez are gone and replaced by Kevin Cameron and Guevara.
186: Oops, I forgot Guevara is on the DL. But I bet it’s the rule V draft pick DL, where you stick a guy on there at the slightest injury to avoid giving him back.
Crikey! The bullpen is shakey.
Great game for Maddux, Greene, A. Gonzalez, and Bard.
Stinker for Giles, Barrett, and E. Gonzalez.
Coach Kenterra just reported that Barrett is coming back to SD to have his elbow looked at. If he has to go on the DL they’re leaning towards bringing up Colt Morton from AA.
Sorry, getting in late here. Great game…
#7: Glad you’re enjoying the Annual! Tell everyone you know to buy a copy or three.
#141: Meredith was in there presumably because he didn’t get any work in the Dodgers series over the weekend. With a day game before a night game, why not let him throw an inning to stay sharp?
Let’s enjoy Morton while he’s up – he’s gotta be the biggest catcher I’ve ever seen in my life. He looks like an NFL center. Not much of a prospect, but an interesting guy.
Reading through these comments about Greene’s OBP – check out his road stats from last year. If he played anywhere but SD he would already be an All-Star. Petco kills everybody, but it REALLY kills Greene. His road numbers last year were 290/340/510. That, coupled with his defense, is an All-Star shortstop.
Also, Gonzalez is just a mop-up guy, so not sure why all the clamoring about him. Not sure that there’s a better option out there. Cameron throws hard but has zero control, and last year was helped out greatly by the fact that he only pitched in a close or tied game four times. I wouldn’t fret too much about the mop-up guy – they’re all fungible pieces.