IGD: Padres @ Dodgers (13 Sep 07)

Game #145
time: 7:10 p.m. PT
tv: 4SD
sp: Greg Maddux (12-9, 3.68) vs David Wells (7-8, 5.31)
pre: Padres.com, B-R.com

From The Scouting Report: 1990 (aff link):

Finding a weakness in Greg Maddux is difficult. Whether he is at home or on the road, on turf or natural grass, during the day or at night, his numbers are all excellent. Though Maddux is not yet 24, he pitches like a 10-year veteran.

Maddux had just come off a 19-win season. His career record stood at 45-38, with a 3.77 ERA

In a crowded Blue Jay bullpen, David Wells hasn’t really had a chance to show his true potential. Certainly Wells has the tools to be a premier reliever…. As long as Wells keeps his weight in check — always a problem for him — he should be around a long time.

Wells had made 113 big-league appearances to this point, all but two in relief. His record: 14-12, with a 3.45 ERA, and 7 saves.

87 Comments

  1. LynchMob
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 6:43 pm | Permalink

    This is the NL-equivalent of the Clemens vs Schilling showdown this weekend … lots of W’s on the mound …

  2. Ben B.
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 6:48 pm | Permalink

    Everyone’s happy with the lineup tonight. Sledge doesn’t start in left (Hairston does) and Blum doesn’t start at second (NOG does). Glad to have NOG back to ensure Blum doesn’t start against lefties anymore.

  3. SDSUBaseball
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:01 pm | Permalink

    2: I still like Blum over Giles, but no Sledge is a good night. Dont forget Bard is starting over Barrett.

  4. Richard
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:02 pm | Permalink

    2: The idiots on the radio were wondering why Blum wasn’t starting. Apparently they didn’t get the memo that Blum can’t hit left handed pitching.

  5. LynchMob
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:04 pm | Permalink

    2 … I’m not happy with NOG in the 2-hole … why can’t he hit #8 … he’s the 8th or 9th best hitter in the lineup, that’s for sure …

  6. LynchMob
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:08 pm | Permalink

    Garrison pitching for Storm tonight in Game #1 of their Finals …

    http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=g_box&gid=2007_09_13_sjgafa_lesafa_1

  7. LynchMob
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:11 pm | Permalink

    OT … wow, GY posted this pic over at Knuckle Curve …

    http://images.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/MDS106091216_800×600.jpg

    … it shows how many/few people attended a recent Marlins home game … 375? I don’t think I see even *that* many in the pic … but prolly some are in line for fish tacos, I s’pose …

  8. Rick Schroder (Turbine Dude)
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:16 pm | Permalink

    I’ve been looking forward to this game all day.

  9. SDSUBaseball
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:17 pm | Permalink

    im happy we really made david wells work in the first. Having Marcus and Cam in the 2,3 spots doesnt seem like a good idea. Why cant marcus hit 8th?

  10. LynchMob
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:18 pm | Permalink

    The Padres swang at 3 of the first 7 pitches from Wells? Hmmm …

  11. Stephen
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:18 pm | Permalink

    Ugh.

  12. SDSUBaseball
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:19 pm | Permalink

    7: They had that on ESPN today. 10,000 were “in attendance”. I think your on target with 375 though.

  13. Ben B.
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:20 pm | Permalink

    I don’t think we really want to make David Wells work. We want to just hit the fat pitches he throws.

  14. Rick Schroder (Turbine Dude)
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:20 pm | Permalink

    #7: At first glance I didn’t even notice the players being on the field or the few fans in their seats. Wow.

  15. Rick Schroder (Turbine Dude)
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:22 pm | Permalink

    Damn I really dislike Loney!

  16. Rick Schroder (Turbine Dude)
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:28 pm | Permalink

    That DP was wicked sick by Maddux!!!!!!! Especially after taking one for the team in his glove arm. Wow!

  17. LynchMob
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:30 pm | Permalink

    Thru 1 …

    Pitches-strikes – G Maddux 17-12; D Wells 7-6.

    Ground balls-fly balls – G Maddux 3-0; D Wells 1-2.

    Batters faced – G Maddux 5; D Wells 3.

    … Maddux gets a GIDP to save himself a run a few pitches …

  18. Rick Schroder (Turbine Dude)
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:30 pm | Permalink

    If they have to pull Maddux for that ding on his glove wrist, we’re screwed.

  19. Phantom
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:31 pm | Permalink

    Why the hell is Boomer able to work so quickly?

  20. Rick Schroder (Turbine Dude)
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:33 pm | Permalink

    Nice 5.5 for Kouz, there.

  21. LynchMob
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:33 pm | Permalink

    KK breakin’ up the no-no …

  22. Phantom
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:35 pm | Permalink

    C’mon Hairy…

  23. Phantom
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:35 pm | Permalink

    Boomer getting pissed. This is what we need.

  24. LynchMob
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:36 pm | Permalink

    Mr. RISP … do your thing!

  25. LynchMob
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:39 pm | Permalink

    Anybody pining for Sledge? OUCH!

  26. Surfin' Bird
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:39 pm | Permalink

    Between Hairston and Barrett, have an MLB bonehead surplus.

  27. Ben B.
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:39 pm | Permalink

    Can we bury Hairston now and say he should never start again?

  28. Phantom
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:44 pm | Permalink

    I cannot believe how we consistently make the stupidest most retarded mistakes on the bases.

  29. LynchMob
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:46 pm | Permalink

    27 … bury ‘im, Dano!

  30. LynchMob
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:48 pm | Permalink

    Thru 2 …

    Pitches-strikes – G Maddux 24-18; D Wells 24-13.

    Ground balls-fly balls – G Maddux 4-1; D Wells 2-3.

    Batters faced – G Maddux 8; D Wells 7.

  31. Ben B.
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:49 pm | Permalink

    Actually, through July, the Padres were the best baserunning team in the majors. Although they’ve been pretty bad recently.

  32. Schlom
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:50 pm | Permalink

    I don’t think they should take pitches from Wells. He’s just lobbing it right down the middle, right now they aren’t hitting them. I’m sure it won’t last. Although this could be one of their “Get shutout by a scrub” games.

  33. Ben B.
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:50 pm | Permalink

    The link for that statement in 31:
    http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=463

  34. LynchMob
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:53 pm | Permalink

    FYI … KK has reached base in 10 consecutive ABs …

  35. Rick Schroder (Turbine Dude)
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:53 pm | Permalink

    Boomer with an 0-2 pitch stand up double to center. Sheesh, I’m gonna be sick.

    At least NOG was able to nail him at third.

  36. Ben B.
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:53 pm | Permalink

    Gameday’s acting up and feeding me incorrect information. It said David Wells just doubled.

  37. Phantom
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:54 pm | Permalink

    36: He did, but then screwed up running the bases to save our butts. The Padres NEED to win this game.

  38. Ben B.
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:55 pm | Permalink

    The Dodgers NEED to win this game. The Padres lose and they’re still 1.5 games up in the wild card. The Dodgers lose and they’re 3.5 back.

  39. BZ
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:56 pm | Permalink

    Oh, man I wish I was watching that last sequence on TV…

    Even after getting thrown out, my money’s on Wells getting a pitch high and tight if he bats again against Maddux. I bet he HATED giving up a double to Wells

  40. LynchMob
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:56 pm | Permalink

    33 … thanks for the link … it does show something postive about NOG that matches my observations (ie. if he gets on, he’s a good/aggresive baserunner) …

  41. Phantom
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:57 pm | Permalink

    38: We cannot afford to have gone 3-6 on this road trip, that’s just unacceptable. We’ve GOT to get this game.

  42. Rick Schroder (Turbine Dude)
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:58 pm | Permalink

    I refer to #15.

  43. Schlom
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 8:00 pm | Permalink

    Do you think they didn’t walk Loney there because Maddux has a long streak without giving up a walk?

  44. Phantom
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 8:02 pm | Permalink

    43: I would really hope not, given a single accomplishment isn’t nearly as important as winning games in September.

  45. Sean Callahan
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 8:02 pm | Permalink

    This isn’t looking like a good day to watch….

  46. Schlom
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 8:04 pm | Permalink

    I thought they should have put him on but it obviously didn’t matter. Just one of those games again I guess…..

  47. Rick Schroder (Turbine Dude)
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 8:04 pm | Permalink

    This is getting ugly real fast.

  48. Rick Schroder (Turbine Dude)
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 8:06 pm | Permalink

    Nice throw by Cammy to get this inning over…

  49. Schlom
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 8:06 pm | Permalink

    I was about to say that the Padres look like they don’t want to be out there but I think Kent doesn’t want to be out there even more.

  50. JP
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 8:08 pm | Permalink

    #31 How is baserunning gaged statisically ? Do stats really tell the WHOLE story ? Are there not any assessments that you make that are based on anecdotal evidence ?

  51. LynchMob
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 8:09 pm | Permalink

    Thru 3 not-so-good innings …

    Pitches-strikes – G Maddux 49-34; D Wells 36-22.

    Ground balls-fly balls – G Maddux 5-2; D Wells 3-4.

    Batters faced – G Maddux 15; D Wells 10.

    … still plenty of outs in this game … remember what we usually saw happen to Wells in the 5th and 6th innings?

  52. LynchMob
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 8:09 pm | Permalink

    6 … scoreless thru 3 up at The Diamond …

  53. Ben B.
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 8:11 pm | Permalink

    50: They measure the percentage of time the runner advances first to third on a single, first to home on a double, moves up on outs, etc. compared to league average. It pretty much tells the whole story, yeah.

  54. LynchMob
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 8:12 pm | Permalink

    50 … I’ve never heard anyone claim that stats tell a whole story … do you think anecdotes tell a whole story? I don’t think they do either …

  55. LynchMob
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 8:13 pm | Permalink

    53 … thanks, Ben B … that shot #54 down … unless you want to add a smiley … just to be clear?

  56. Ben B.
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 8:14 pm | Permalink

    54: Hmm, I guess I just did, so sorry for undermining your point there. They could be off for some people if they happened to have had unusually hard hit balls or unusually soft hit balls on which to advance. But if you’re not looking for ability, but rather net runs created by the actual record of baserunning events, it does tell a pretty complete story.

  57. PM
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 8:15 pm | Permalink

    Christ on a crutch, this team’s inconsistant offense drives me crazy insane. I have to stop watching. Its like they don’t want to play the game. Maddux with 0 support. And we are back to Petco for 9 games where we really can’t help. Phils won, but luckily AZ has an off day. It coud be worse, we could be Cardinal fan, who are on suicide watch.

  58. Schlom
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 8:17 pm | Permalink

    Yikes, what’s the record for opposite field bloop hits?

  59. Jefe
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 8:17 pm | Permalink

    Damnit Boomer! i understand you are out to get the Pads, but this is ridiculous.

  60. Sean Callahan
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 8:19 pm | Permalink

    Boomer now has more hits in the game then the entire SD offense…

  61. LynchMob
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 8:24 pm | Permalink

    What happened on Furcal’s AB … Yahoo’s description leaves me wondering???

  62. Jefe
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 8:26 pm | Permalink

    It was a successful squeeze. Run scored, Boomer forced at second. He then promptly stole two bags and scored on another Loney RBI hit.

  63. JP
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 8:31 pm | Permalink

    Do we not pull for the Dbacks tomorrow in LA ? LA is our biggest threat now. Forget the West title – all I want is an invitation to the dance and the Pads are probably not going to make up 3 or 4 games with only 18 left to play.

  64. Stephen
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 8:34 pm | Permalink

    63: Not a chance. This is humiliating for sure. But I’m glad the Pads are saving all that start incentive $ (To be fair, I was OK with the DFA.)

  65. Phantom
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 8:35 pm | Permalink

    64: Ditching Boomer wasn’t a bad move. Our offense is more than anemic right now, that’s not a testament to Boomer.

  66. Posted September 13, 2007 at 8:38 pm | Permalink

    Re: Baserunning metrics. I don’t thinlk they tell the whole story at this point. I’m not really sure any stat does, although offensive ones probably come closest. Anyway, and I’m kind of guessing here, there is probably a lot of variation from year to year in the base running stats. For one, it’s tough to control for things like exact position of the ball and arm of the outfielders. Also, and possibly more importantly, the sample size in a year is very small. I’m guessing 3+ years of baserunning data would really be need to make real determinations about individual baserunners. On a team level, it probably should be a little more reliable.

    Anyway, all that being said, they are still better than just using your eyes, I think. And they are certainly improving, as well. Always more research to do … baseball analysis never dies ; )

    On a side not, I hate having to watch game on a computer. Half the time it doesn’t work well, and when it does, it’s still annyoing to have to watch it on such a small screen, without being able to use the comp, etc. Grrr..

  67. Jefe
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 8:43 pm | Permalink

    65; In hindsight, I’d prefer to have Boomer back, not just because of what he’s doing tonight, but because of our starting pitching situation. Other than Jake and Mad Dog (forgetting tonight), I don’t trust anyone (sorry, but CY still isn’t right). Ch. 4 just said that Tomko would be starting game 2 of the Giants series (against Cain). UGH

  68. LynchMob
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 8:45 pm | Permalink

    52 … yuck, Garrison cough’d it up in the 5th … now 5-0 San Jose …

  69. Jefe
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 8:49 pm | Permalink

    Well, got 3 back. let’s go guys, up off the mat.

  70. LynchMob
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 8:54 pm | Permalink

    51 … now *that* was a familiar 6th inning of work for David Wells!

  71. LynchMob
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 9:05 pm | Permalink

    68 … Storm get 3 back in bottom of 5th … I’ll betcha GY’s up there!

  72. SDSUBaseball
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 9:16 pm | Permalink

    I’d love to get to Broxton here

  73. SDSUBaseball
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 9:17 pm | Permalink

    In other news Tomko starts on Saturday…

  74. LynchMob
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 9:25 pm | Permalink

    73 … see 67 … i guess it depends on your definition of “news” …

  75. LynchMob
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 9:26 pm | Permalink

    RALLY CAP TIME!!!

    3 runs … that’s all I/we ask!!!

  76. SDSUBaseball
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 9:29 pm | Permalink

    Marcus swang for the fences all night…

  77. LynchMob
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 9:32 pm | Permalink

    Anybody else think we coulda/shoulda PH’d for NOG there? Ya, I thought so …

  78. LynchMob
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 9:32 pm | Permalink

    KK’s the tieing run … let’s get to him!

  79. SDSUBaseball
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 9:33 pm | Permalink

    77: Doesnt really matter now

  80. LynchMob
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 9:34 pm | Permalink

    whisper …

  81. SDSUBaseball
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 9:34 pm | Permalink

    Bring on the Gigantes

  82. Zagz
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 9:35 pm | Permalink

    I know we’ll be a game and a half up, but with Tomko to start on Saturday and the way this team has been playing, I don’t have much hope for making the playoffs. Here’s hoping the Dodgers don’t either. In hindsight dropping Wells was the biggest mistake of the year.

  83. LynchMob
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 9:42 pm | Permalink

    82 … now there’s a decent poll for ya, GY … perhaps for after the season … other candidates:

    – giving NOG so many ABs after May 22nd

    – trading away Cust

    – what else?

    I disagree that dropping Wells was a mistake … at the time, it was a no-brainer …

  84. Zagz
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 9:44 pm | Permalink

    83: At the time I was glad they dropped him, but it appears he just needed some rest. Hindsight is 20/20 I guess. Even at his worst he was better than Tomko though.

  85. LynchMob
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 9:56 pm | Permalink

    71 … Storm boyz tie it up … 6-6 in 8th …

  86. SDSUBaseball
    Posted September 13, 2007 at 11:16 pm | Permalink

    84: Maybe Tomko will benefit from Petco. I like this Giants series, CY at Petco, then Jake to finish it off.

  87. Posted September 14, 2007 at 12:05 am | Permalink

    #71: Yessir, I was. One of the most exciting games I’ve seen all year. Garrison had nothing, but after he left, the bullpen held the Giants in check until Mike Baxter could bust out and carry the team on his back.

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