IGD: Padres @ Dodgers (13 Sep 07)
Thu, Sep 13, 2007
by Geoff Young
| time: | 7:10 p.m. PT |
| tv: | 4SD |
| sp: | Greg Maddux (12-9, 3.68) vs David Wells (7-8, 5.31) |
| pre: | Padres.com, B-R.com |
From The Scouting Report: 1990
Finding a weakness in Greg Maddux is difficult. Whether he is at home or on the road, on turf or natural grass, during the day or at night, his numbers are all excellent. Though Maddux is not yet 24, he pitches like a 10-year veteran.
Maddux had just come off a 19-win season. His career record stood at 45-38, with a 3.77 ERA
In a crowded Blue Jay bullpen, David Wells hasn’t really had a chance to show his true potential. Certainly Wells has the tools to be a premier reliever…. As long as Wells keeps his weight in check — always a problem for him — he should be around a long time.
Wells had made 113 big-league appearances to this point, all but two in relief. His record: 14-12, with a 3.45 ERA, and 7 saves.
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September 13, 2007 at 6:43 pm
This is the NL-equivalent of the Clemens vs Schilling showdown this weekend … lots of W’s on the mound …
September 13, 2007 at 6:48 pm
Everyone’s happy with the lineup tonight. Sledge doesn’t start in left (Hairston does) and Blum doesn’t start at second (NOG does). Glad to have NOG back to ensure Blum doesn’t start against lefties anymore.
September 13, 2007 at 7:01 pm
2: I still like Blum over Giles, but no Sledge is a good night. Dont forget Bard is starting over Barrett.
September 13, 2007 at 7:02 pm
2: The idiots on the radio were wondering why Blum wasn’t starting. Apparently they didn’t get the memo that Blum can’t hit left handed pitching.
September 13, 2007 at 7:04 pm
2 … I’m not happy with NOG in the 2-hole … why can’t he hit #8 … he’s the 8th or 9th best hitter in the lineup, that’s for sure …
September 13, 2007 at 7:08 pm
Garrison pitching for Storm tonight in Game #1 of their Finals …
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....a_lesafa_1
September 13, 2007 at 7:11 pm
OT … wow, GY posted this pic over at Knuckle Curve …
http://images.sportsline.com/u.....15;600.jpg
… it shows how many/few people attended a recent Marlins home game … 375? I don’t think I see even *that* many in the pic … but prolly some are in line for fish tacos, I s’pose …
September 13, 2007 at 7:16 pm
I’ve been looking forward to this game all day.
September 13, 2007 at 7:17 pm
im happy we really made david wells work in the first. Having Marcus and Cam in the 2,3 spots doesnt seem like a good idea. Why cant marcus hit 8th?
September 13, 2007 at 7:18 pm
The Padres swang at 3 of the first 7 pitches from Wells? Hmmm …
September 13, 2007 at 7:18 pm
Ugh.
September 13, 2007 at 7:19 pm
7: They had that on ESPN today. 10,000 were “in attendance”. I think your on target with 375 though.
September 13, 2007 at 7:20 pm
I don’t think we really want to make David Wells work. We want to just hit the fat pitches he throws.
September 13, 2007 at 7:20 pm
#7: At first glance I didn’t even notice the players being on the field or the few fans in their seats. Wow.
September 13, 2007 at 7:22 pm
Damn I really dislike Loney!
September 13, 2007 at 7:28 pm
That DP was wicked sick by Maddux!!!!!!! Especially after taking one for the team in his glove arm. Wow!
September 13, 2007 at 7:30 pm
Thru 1 …
Pitches-strikes - G Maddux 17-12; D Wells 7-6.
Ground balls-fly balls - G Maddux 3-0; D Wells 1-2.
Batters faced - G Maddux 5; D Wells 3.
… Maddux gets a GIDP to save himself a run a few pitches …
September 13, 2007 at 7:30 pm
If they have to pull Maddux for that ding on his glove wrist, we’re screwed.
September 13, 2007 at 7:31 pm
Why the hell is Boomer able to work so quickly?
September 13, 2007 at 7:33 pm
Nice 5.5 for Kouz, there.
September 13, 2007 at 7:33 pm
KK breakin’ up the no-no …
September 13, 2007 at 7:35 pm
C’mon Hairy…
September 13, 2007 at 7:35 pm
Boomer getting pissed. This is what we need.
September 13, 2007 at 7:36 pm
Mr. RISP … do your thing!
September 13, 2007 at 7:39 pm
Anybody pining for Sledge? OUCH!
September 13, 2007 at 7:39 pm
Between Hairston and Barrett, have an MLB bonehead surplus.
September 13, 2007 at 7:39 pm
Can we bury Hairston now and say he should never start again?
September 13, 2007 at 7:44 pm
I cannot believe how we consistently make the stupidest most retarded mistakes on the bases.
September 13, 2007 at 7:46 pm
27 … bury ‘im, Dano!
September 13, 2007 at 7:48 pm
Thru 2 …
Pitches-strikes - G Maddux 24-18; D Wells 24-13.
Ground balls-fly balls - G Maddux 4-1; D Wells 2-3.
Batters faced - G Maddux 8; D Wells 7.
September 13, 2007 at 7:49 pm
Actually, through July, the Padres were the best baserunning team in the majors. Although they’ve been pretty bad recently.
September 13, 2007 at 7:50 pm
I don’t think they should take pitches from Wells. He’s just lobbing it right down the middle, right now they aren’t hitting them. I’m sure it won’t last. Although this could be one of their “Get shutout by a scrub” games.
September 13, 2007 at 7:50 pm
The link for that statement in 31:
http://www.baseballprospectus......red/?p=463
September 13, 2007 at 7:53 pm
FYI … KK has reached base in 10 consecutive ABs …
September 13, 2007 at 7:53 pm
Boomer with an 0-2 pitch stand up double to center. Sheesh, I’m gonna be sick.
At least NOG was able to nail him at third.
September 13, 2007 at 7:53 pm
Gameday’s acting up and feeding me incorrect information. It said David Wells just doubled.
September 13, 2007 at 7:54 pm
36: He did, but then screwed up running the bases to save our butts. The Padres NEED to win this game.
September 13, 2007 at 7:55 pm
The Dodgers NEED to win this game. The Padres lose and they’re still 1.5 games up in the wild card. The Dodgers lose and they’re 3.5 back.
September 13, 2007 at 7:56 pm
Oh, man I wish I was watching that last sequence on TV…
Even after getting thrown out, my money’s on Wells getting a pitch high and tight if he bats again against Maddux. I bet he HATED giving up a double to Wells
September 13, 2007 at 7:56 pm
33 … thanks for the link … it does show something postive about NOG that matches my observations (ie. if he gets on, he’s a good/aggresive baserunner) …
September 13, 2007 at 7:57 pm
38: We cannot afford to have gone 3-6 on this road trip, that’s just unacceptable. We’ve GOT to get this game.
September 13, 2007 at 7:58 pm
I refer to #15.
September 13, 2007 at 8:00 pm
Do you think they didn’t walk Loney there because Maddux has a long streak without giving up a walk?
September 13, 2007 at 8:02 pm
43: I would really hope not, given a single accomplishment isn’t nearly as important as winning games in September.
September 13, 2007 at 8:02 pm
This isn’t looking like a good day to watch….
September 13, 2007 at 8:04 pm
I thought they should have put him on but it obviously didn’t matter. Just one of those games again I guess…..
September 13, 2007 at 8:04 pm
This is getting ugly real fast.
September 13, 2007 at 8:06 pm
Nice throw by Cammy to get this inning over…
September 13, 2007 at 8:06 pm
I was about to say that the Padres look like they don’t want to be out there but I think Kent doesn’t want to be out there even more.
September 13, 2007 at 8:08 pm
#31 How is baserunning gaged statisically ? Do stats really tell the WHOLE story ? Are there not any assessments that you make that are based on anecdotal evidence ?
September 13, 2007 at 8:09 pm
Thru 3 not-so-good innings …
Pitches-strikes - G Maddux 49-34; D Wells 36-22.
Ground balls-fly balls - G Maddux 5-2; D Wells 3-4.
Batters faced - G Maddux 15; D Wells 10.
… still plenty of outs in this game … remember what we usually saw happen to Wells in the 5th and 6th innings?
September 13, 2007 at 8:09 pm
6 … scoreless thru 3 up at The Diamond …
September 13, 2007 at 8:11 pm
50: They measure the percentage of time the runner advances first to third on a single, first to home on a double, moves up on outs, etc. compared to league average. It pretty much tells the whole story, yeah.
September 13, 2007 at 8:12 pm
50 … I’ve never heard anyone claim that stats tell a whole story … do you think anecdotes tell a whole story? I don’t think they do either …
September 13, 2007 at 8:13 pm
53 … thanks, Ben B … that shot #54 down … unless you want to add a smiley … just to be clear?
September 13, 2007 at 8:14 pm
54: Hmm, I guess I just did, so sorry for undermining your point there. They could be off for some people if they happened to have had unusually hard hit balls or unusually soft hit balls on which to advance. But if you’re not looking for ability, but rather net runs created by the actual record of baserunning events, it does tell a pretty complete story.
September 13, 2007 at 8:15 pm
Christ on a crutch, this team’s inconsistant offense drives me crazy insane. I have to stop watching. Its like they don’t want to play the game. Maddux with 0 support. And we are back to Petco for 9 games where we really can’t help. Phils won, but luckily AZ has an off day. It coud be worse, we could be Cardinal fan, who are on suicide watch.
September 13, 2007 at 8:17 pm
Yikes, what’s the record for opposite field bloop hits?
September 13, 2007 at 8:17 pm
Damnit Boomer! i understand you are out to get the Pads, but this is ridiculous.
September 13, 2007 at 8:19 pm
Boomer now has more hits in the game then the entire SD offense…
September 13, 2007 at 8:24 pm
What happened on Furcal’s AB … Yahoo’s description leaves me wondering???
September 13, 2007 at 8:26 pm
It was a successful squeeze. Run scored, Boomer forced at second. He then promptly stole two bags and scored on another Loney RBI hit.
September 13, 2007 at 8:31 pm
Do we not pull for the Dbacks tomorrow in LA ? LA is our biggest threat now. Forget the West title - all I want is an invitation to the dance and the Pads are probably not going to make up 3 or 4 games with only 18 left to play.
September 13, 2007 at 8:34 pm
63: Not a chance. This is humiliating for sure. But I’m glad the Pads are saving all that start incentive $ (To be fair, I was OK with the DFA.)
September 13, 2007 at 8:35 pm
64: Ditching Boomer wasn’t a bad move. Our offense is more than anemic right now, that’s not a testament to Boomer.
September 13, 2007 at 8:38 pm
Re: Baserunning metrics. I don’t thinlk they tell the whole story at this point. I’m not really sure any stat does, although offensive ones probably come closest. Anyway, and I’m kind of guessing here, there is probably a lot of variation from year to year in the base running stats. For one, it’s tough to control for things like exact position of the ball and arm of the outfielders. Also, and possibly more importantly, the sample size in a year is very small. I’m guessing 3+ years of baserunning data would really be need to make real determinations about individual baserunners. On a team level, it probably should be a little more reliable.
Anyway, all that being said, they are still better than just using your eyes, I think. And they are certainly improving, as well. Always more research to do … baseball analysis never dies ; )
On a side not, I hate having to watch game on a computer. Half the time it doesn’t work well, and when it does, it’s still annyoing to have to watch it on such a small screen, without being able to use the comp, etc. Grrr..
September 13, 2007 at 8:43 pm
65; In hindsight, I’d prefer to have Boomer back, not just because of what he’s doing tonight, but because of our starting pitching situation. Other than Jake and Mad Dog (forgetting tonight), I don’t trust anyone (sorry, but CY still isn’t right). Ch. 4 just said that Tomko would be starting game 2 of the Giants series (against Cain). UGH
September 13, 2007 at 8:45 pm
52 … yuck, Garrison cough’d it up in the 5th … now 5-0 San Jose …
September 13, 2007 at 8:49 pm
Well, got 3 back. let’s go guys, up off the mat.
September 13, 2007 at 8:54 pm
51 … now *that* was a familiar 6th inning of work for David Wells!
September 13, 2007 at 9:05 pm
68 … Storm get 3 back in bottom of 5th … I’ll betcha GY’s up there!
September 13, 2007 at 9:16 pm
I’d love to get to Broxton here
September 13, 2007 at 9:17 pm
In other news Tomko starts on Saturday…
September 13, 2007 at 9:25 pm
73 … see 67 … i guess it depends on your definition of “news” …
September 13, 2007 at 9:26 pm
RALLY CAP TIME!!!
3 runs … that’s all I/we ask!!!
September 13, 2007 at 9:29 pm
Marcus swang for the fences all night…
September 13, 2007 at 9:32 pm
Anybody else think we coulda/shoulda PH’d for NOG there? Ya, I thought so …
September 13, 2007 at 9:32 pm
KK’s the tieing run … let’s get to him!
September 13, 2007 at 9:33 pm
77: Doesnt really matter now
September 13, 2007 at 9:34 pm
whisper …
September 13, 2007 at 9:34 pm
Bring on the Gigantes
September 13, 2007 at 9:35 pm
I know we’ll be a game and a half up, but with Tomko to start on Saturday and the way this team has been playing, I don’t have much hope for making the playoffs. Here’s hoping the Dodgers don’t either. In hindsight dropping Wells was the biggest mistake of the year.
September 13, 2007 at 9:42 pm
82 … now there’s a decent poll for ya, GY … perhaps for after the season … other candidates:
- giving NOG so many ABs after May 22nd
- trading away Cust
- what else?
I disagree that dropping Wells was a mistake … at the time, it was a no-brainer …
September 13, 2007 at 9:44 pm
83: At the time I was glad they dropped him, but it appears he just needed some rest. Hindsight is 20/20 I guess. Even at his worst he was better than Tomko though.
September 13, 2007 at 9:56 pm
71 … Storm boyz tie it up … 6-6 in 8th …
September 13, 2007 at 11:16 pm
84: Maybe Tomko will benefit from Petco. I like this Giants series, CY at Petco, then Jake to finish it off.
September 14, 2007 at 12:05 am
#71: Yessir, I was. One of the most exciting games I’ve seen all year. Garrison had nothing, but after he left, the bullpen held the Giants in check until Mike Baxter could bust out and carry the team on his back.