IGD: Padres vs Diamondbacks (2 Aug 07)

Game #107
time: 12:35 p.m. PT
tv: none

Go Padres!

197 Comments

  1. Steve C
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 8:09 am | Permalink

    Day game at home = not great for Peavy

    All 5 of Peavy’s losses this year have come at petco, 3 of witch were during day games.

  2. Posted August 2, 2007 at 8:17 am | Permalink

    Man I hate Peavy in day games. It would be nice if he could come out and get back on track with CY on the DL. A dominating performance by Peavy might do wonders for this team.

  3. Nick G.
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 8:50 am | Permalink

    Peavy’s got to be the stopper here. We’ve got to get this thing going again. Who starts in RF today — Hairston or Machowiak? Here’s hoping it’s the latter!

  4. Steve C
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 8:59 am | Permalink

    Re: 3 why not NOG?

  5. Steve C
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 9:00 am | Permalink

    Re: 4 I meant OG

  6. LaMar
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 9:15 am | Permalink

    I wish GY would get back. I’m thinking we need a “step back away from the cliff” entries.

  7. Steve C
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 9:21 am | Permalink

    Re: 6 I just keep telling myself they did the same thing last year, and they still won the division, but I’m not sure how much longer I can keep believing it.

  8. Posted August 2, 2007 at 9:24 am | Permalink

    5.

    He hurt his ankle pretty bad last night making a great play. It looked to me like his knees took some pain also so it wouldn’t surprise me if he was down for a game or 2. I think the question is who plays left because Bradley will probably move over the right. I think it will probably be Mackowiak since Petit is a righty. I think this might make KT look good for strengthening his bench a day before Giles goes down. Hopefully it works out.

    How good does the Milton Bradley aquisition look? That guy is a freaking man and has been the single bright spot on this roster for the last few games. I am almost to the point where I think they may want to start looking into some type of 2 or 3 year extension for the guy. It’s probably a little too early for that right now but if he keeps playing like this you would think that we would almost have to look into it right? He is from LA so he would be close to home. He hates the Dodgers and he would get to play them 19 times a year. San Diego is a low key market and he wouldn’t be under a microscope. I’m just saying I could see him him wanting to work something out here and I can definitely see the Padres wanting to look into it.

  9. SDSUBASEBALL
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 9:27 am | Permalink

    2: Was Jake not dominaing his last time out?

  10. Steve C
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 9:28 am | Permalink

    Re: 9 he was but Jake has not done well at home day games this year, but then again not good for jake is 7 IP and 3 ER with 7 SO.

  11. SDSUBASEBALL
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 9:37 am | Permalink

    10: Exactly, i wouldnt say he has been bad. We just need to score the runs. Its a day game, we normally put up a good amount of runs. I dont know why they arent doing it for Jake in day games. His day game numbers really arent all that bad 2.68 ERA, he just isnt getting any support so he is 4-3 in day games this year

  12. Steve C
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 9:44 am | Permalink

    I never said jake was doing bad during day home games I just said he was not doing great (which he is in every other setting) during day home games.

    his home ERA is 3.36 while his away ERA is 0.98, I would say that there is a noticeable difference there.

  13. Stephen
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 9:46 am | Permalink

    8: He is such a dynamic player when he’s hungry (if not a Jose Reyes-level dynamo). You have to think the Pads are/will be thinking of him as possible CFer next year. Is he good enough for center? I dunno but I remember when the Dodgers signed JD Drew there was some question of who would play center or right and Drew went to right, IIRC.

  14. Steve C
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 9:49 am | Permalink

    Re: 8 I could see the Pads working out a 1 year deal with Bradley to play CF next year, I dont see either side wanting to go over 1 year though.

  15. Ian
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 9:51 am | Permalink

    it would be nice to score a few f’ing runs for jake today…that would be super.

    and no brocail today thanks

  16. Posted August 2, 2007 at 9:52 am | Permalink

    13.

    Yeah I don’t know how great he would bein center (I am still convinced the Padres are going to kick the tires on Eric Byrnes) but he could probably play it pretty decently. He is probably Cammy’s back up in cf now so it’s definitely an option.

  17. Steve C
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 10:00 am | Permalink

    Re: 16 I agree’d with you on Bynres untill Bradley started playing well, I dont think the Padres will go after Bynres now because he will want a 3-5 year contract (which he will be able to get with another team), where I think they will be able to get Bradley to sign a 1 year “hey let me prove to everybody I can play a full year without a blowup” deal. The Padres will never commit to more years than they have to because the last few long term deals they have done have blown up in thier face (with the exception of Trevor).

  18. Tom Waits
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 10:01 am | Permalink

    16: Eric Byrnes thinks he deserves Gary Matthews Jr money, aka Stupid Money.

    Unless the Padres internal defensive metrics show him to be a terrific CF, they’re not going to sink 15-20% of their payroll into a single player coming off a career year.

  19. Ian
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 10:03 am | Permalink

    wow lets call up hillenbrand haha

    hes got 4 games and hes 1 for 15(only a single) thats ballin!

    POR PCL .067 4 15 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 .067 .067 .133

  20. Posted August 2, 2007 at 10:06 am | Permalink

    9.

    Yes he was dominant the last time out but the last few starts before that not so much. If he can come out and put together another Jake-Like performance I think it would go a long way. Since the AS break he has not been sharp and CY has basically been our ace. With CY out Jake needs to step back up and take this team over. Pitching is going to carry this team and if we are going to go anywhere Jake is going to have to be a big part of it.

  21. Peter Friberg a.k.a. Less Nessman
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 10:06 am | Permalink

    Padres Prospect Report

    You will not see the sexy July 31st blockbuster trade. But the reality is, the Padres made one of those too, they just did it two weeks early (which apparently doesn’t count among Padre faithful). Since joining the Padres Milton is hitting .371/.463/.657.

    Wednesday, August 1, 2007

    AAA

    Yordany Ramirez: 5 AB, 1 R, 3 H, 1 RBI; 2 SB
    Pete Laforest: 4 AB, 1 R, 1 H, 1 RBI; HR, SO – typical day
    Will Startup: 1.0 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 SO, 0 HR – Padre debut

    AA

    Colt Morton: 5 AB, 2 R, 3 H, 3 RBI; 2 HR, SO
    Will Inman: 6.0 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 5 BB, 4 SO, 1 HR – weird line

    High-A

    No significant performances…

    Low-A

    Cedric Hunter: 5 AB, 0 R, 0 H, 0 RBI; BB, 2 SO
    Cory Luebke: 4.0 IP, 6 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 2 BB, 5 SO, 0 HR – Low-A debut

    Short Season-A

    Danny Payne: 3 AB, 0 R, 0 H, 0 RBI; 3 SO – kept off base!

    Rookie

    No significant performances…

    Commentary:

    The Texas League San Antonio Missions were the first Padre organization team in clubhouse tonight and they picked up a “W.” Every other team lost…

  22. Posted August 2, 2007 at 10:10 am | Permalink

    18.

    You are probably right but Byrnes loves is here and is not going to get Mathews money. Once he is out on the market for a while he might have a change of heart.

  23. Posted August 2, 2007 at 10:14 am | Permalink

    Pete Laforest is rediculous!

  24. Steve C
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 10:19 am | Permalink

    Byrens wont get Gary Matthews Jr Money because the CF market will be so saturated but I could see a team like the Chi or SF giving him 4years/$40 mil to play RF for them. Here is where I think the CF will fall:

    Hunter – NYY 5y/$85
    Jones – Bos 5y/$80
    Cameron – Atl 3y/$33
    Rowand – CWS 5y/65

  25. Posted August 2, 2007 at 10:23 am | Permalink

    24.

    That’s pretty much Gary Matthews money minus a year. I expect Hunter to pull about that maybe more but I honestly have no idea what to think with Jones. Cammy is probably a good bet too but I think you are way off on Rowand.

  26. Posted August 2, 2007 at 10:25 am | Permalink

    Another interesting tidbit (Peter, you may have mentioned this — feel free to flog me if so) for tonight is that Robert Woodard is making his first start for Portland.

    Woodard pitched pretty well in the College World Series for North Carolina, and after only a few outings at Eugene, he’s on the bump tonight for the Beavers against Nashville. That will be a game on which to keep an eye.

  27. Tom Waits
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 10:29 am | Permalink

    22, 24: Why wouldn’t he get Matthews money? A lot of teams want CF and he’s having a better 2007 than Matthews’s 2006.

    The top free agent CF last year were:

    Edmonds
    Matthews
    Pierre
    Roberts

    Next year’s class is:

    Eric Byrnes ARZ
    Mike Cameron SD
    Kosuke Fukudome, Chunichi, Japan
    Torii Hunter MIN
    Andruw Jones ATL
    Aaron Rowand PHI

    A lot of teams are going to be looking for CF.

    I dropped players in both years who aren’t top-end, which includes Bradley, Erstad, etc. If Juan Pierre and Gary Matthews got 9-10M per, Eric Byrnes sure can.

  28. Steve C
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 10:36 am | Permalink

    who will be looking for a CF in the offseason with money to burn? CWS, Bos, NYY, Atl, and Balt. I dont even think Byrens will be playing CF next year.

    GMJ and Peire got big money deals becuse they were the best two CF available on the open market Byrnes is 5th maybe sixth this season.

  29. Posted August 2, 2007 at 10:36 am | Permalink

    There’s something I don’t like about Byrnes. Yeah he plays hard but I think some of that is false hustle, like diving into first when there wasn’t even a play. And then there’s boneheaded plays like trying to stretch a routine single into a double. I’d rather resign Cameron or break the bank for Jones.

  30. JP
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 10:38 am | Permalink

    No reason for the Pads to panic yet. Last year they actually dipped beneath .500 after the 120 game mark, though they will need more than 88 wins this year to win the Division. They need to get going sure, but they still have time to right the ship.

  31. Steve C
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 10:41 am | Permalink

    OT: Mets called up B-Law

  32. Posted August 2, 2007 at 10:44 am | Permalink

    29.

    I totally agree with you on the false hustle thing. He basically admitted it yesterday on the radio. He was talking about playing at Yankee Stadium and he mis-read a fly ball. Once he started running for it he said he realized he wasn’t goin to get to it but because he had mis-read it off the bat he was just going to dive for it anyways and he missed catching the ball by a yard or two.

    He annoys me to no end!

  33. Tom Waits
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 10:47 am | Permalink

    28: Lots of teams have money to burn. Baseball’s rolling in cash now.

    You listed 5 teams on your own, with 6 top free agents. More teams than that will be looking for CF.

    The Yankees may decide to trade Damon and grab someone else.

    Philly might want Rowand back, or a big name instead of using Victorino.

    SF now knows what SD knows, that Roberts is stretched in CF. If they don’t resign Bonds they have 20M to spend.

    Texas has a hole there and isn’t afraid to spend.

    Some scouts think Pence is stretched at CF in Houston, and they have all that money they’re not paying Pettite and Clemens
    anymore.

    Baltimore can usually be counted on to spend on free agents, even if unwisely, and they’re currently using Cory Patterson.

    Some of those teams will go with second-tier guys, some may fill the spot from within, but there are still more teams in need than there are top free agents.

  34. Axion
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 10:48 am | Permalink

    29.

    I’m totally with you there. I can’t stand Byrnes.

    He’s like some kind of pathetic clown.

  35. Steve C
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    I dont see him going to SF because with bonds finaly being gone I think they are going to go with a youth movement and they just traded for a young CF.

    I think philly will go with Victorino because they know Rowand is not worth big money and they are going to save teh cash to sign Howard to a long term deal.

    I didnt really think of the rangers but they refused to give GMJ 5y/$50 so I cant see them giving Byrens that kind of money.

    The astros are not hurting for OF between Pence, Lee and Scott, they also have to many other holes to fill in the IF and BP.

    I don’t see Byrens making a return to Balt after the debacle a few years ago.

  36. Tom Waits
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 11:03 am | Permalink

    35: None of those teams have to give Byrnes the money. They’re going to be bidding on the other free agent CF, though. There’s more demand than there is supply.

  37. Steve C
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 11:08 am | Permalink

    Well part of my point was that I dont think Philly, or Houston will be looking for a CF.

  38. Steve C
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 11:12 am | Permalink

    Speaking of Damon and the Yankees, do yuo guys think there is any shot of the Padres trading for Damon if the Yankees take over at least half of his contract?

  39. Posted August 2, 2007 at 11:18 am | Permalink

    38.

    He might be cool in left. But if they were not picking up a ton of money HELL NO!

  40. Steve C
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 11:19 am | Permalink

    well no way would the Pads do it if the yanks didnt pick up atleast 7 of the 13 mil, but he would only be signed though 09, he can play CF and lead off if he stays healthy.

  41. Stephen
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 11:22 am | Permalink

    I seem to recall a knock on Byrnes from his days as an Athletic–his playmaking ability is more about hustle than being a polished, expert route-taker.

  42. Posted August 2, 2007 at 11:28 am | Permalink

    40.

    I wouldn’t trust him to play center. I think that’s why the Yanks are thinking about moving him. He would probably be above average left fielder though. $5 mil a year through 2009 might be cool.

  43. Tom Waits
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 11:29 am | Permalink

    37: And they might not be, but then again, they might. Even if you take them out of the equation, there are a lot of teams looking for CF, and very few teams can legitimately say they can’t afford one. Might not want to pay one (us), but they can afford to if they wanted.

  44. SDSUBASEBALL
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 11:31 am | Permalink

    Do you think the Pads would look to get rid of Barrett?

  45. Steve C
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 11:33 am | Permalink

    Re: 43 thats what I meant “want” to afford one I know every team can afford one.

    Re: 44 Barrett is gone at the end of the season (hello draft pick).

  46. Michael
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 11:34 am | Permalink

    As someone who lives in Oakland, I remember Byrnes in CF very well. He took bad routes but made a lot of awesome catches. He threw his body all over the field, which resulted in him consistently being banged up and slumping after hot starts. He’s much better suited to LF, where he can defer to the CF and not wear himself out so much.

    Bradley has in my experience always been a good but not great centerfielder. I’d be happy to have him there since he might be considerably cheaper than those other guys, but I also wouldn’t mind if the Padres actually spent some money on two good outfielders next year, whoever they happened to be.

  47. Michael
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 11:34 am | Permalink

    As someone who lives in Oakland, I remember Byrnes in CF very well. He took bad routes but made a lot of awesome catches. He threw his body all over the field, which resulted in him consistently being banged up and slumping after hot starts. He’s much better suited to LF, where he can defer to the CF and not wear himself out so much. Also, he doesn’t currently play CF, Young does.

    Bradley has in my experience always been a good but not great centerfielder. I’d be happy to have him there since he might be considerably cheaper than those other guys, but I also wouldn’t mind if the Padres actually spent some money on two good outfielders next year, whoever they happened to be.

  48. Steve C
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 11:35 am | Permalink

    I wouldn’t suprise me if the Pads do a half ass job this off season patching the holes that they have (LF, CF, 2B, SP), selling at the deadline next year and calling up all the top guys in Aug.

  49. Michael
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 11:36 am | Permalink

    Sorry for the duplicate post, the first one can be deleted!

  50. Ben B.
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 11:49 am | Permalink

    Mackowiak is leading off and starting in right. Bard gets the start behind the plate, NOG at second, and Ensberg at third.

  51. Peter Friberg a.k.a. Less Nessman
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

    Boston won’t be in the market for a CF. They have Jacoby Ellsbury ready to take over…

  52. Steve C
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 12:09 pm | Permalink

    Re: 51 you dont think they will make a run at Jones?

  53. Tom Waits
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 12:14 pm | Permalink

    51: Ellsbury has a 697 OPS in AAA. They might use him, but they’ve got more money than Yoko Ono and they don’t rebuild.

  54. Steve C
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 12:15 pm | Permalink

    Re: 53 kind of what I thought

  55. Steve C
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 12:18 pm | Permalink

    hey peter any idea why the Pads moved Michael Epping up to LE form FtW? he’ws hitting he was hitting .217/.300/.409 in low A ball

  56. Posted August 2, 2007 at 12:25 pm | Permalink

    Justin Upton starting in Right field for the D-Bags today!

  57. Posted August 2, 2007 at 12:27 pm | Permalink

    Oooopppsss!!! Actually not starting today.

  58. Peter Friberg a.k.a. Less Nessman
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 12:34 pm | Permalink

    55: no…
    53: Sure, but Ellsbury hit:

    AA (2007): .452/.518/644
    AA (2006): .308/.387/.434
    Hi-A (2006): .295/.375/.414

    His career minor league numbers are: .306/.387/.423

    If Boston does sign Andruw (I don’t think there’s any chance of it), we should trade for Ellsbury.

  59. Tom Waits
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 12:45 pm | Permalink

    58: Numbers which translate to acceptable but hardly great production for a rookie. That’s not to run Ellsbury down, but they’re in baseball’s toughest division, or second-toughest between the AL Central. They haven’t gotten the power they expected from Ortiz or Drew, even Manny has slipped.

    I don’t know who we have that would interest them. Ellsbury would make a very valuable backup OF.

    You know, a changeup might be an outstanding pitch for Jake.

  60. Steve C
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 12:45 pm | Permalink

    Re: 58 what do the pads have that the redsox would want for Ellsbury? I have a feeling they may go after crisp though.

  61. Ben B.
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 12:46 pm | Permalink

    Jake breaks out the curveball to fan Byrnes. Nice. The 21 pitches weren’t so nice, though.

  62. Steve C
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 12:47 pm | Permalink

    Good news: Peavy struck out the side
    Bad news: It took 21 pitches

  63. Steve C
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 12:50 pm | Permalink

    ouch 2 SO in 8 Pitches

  64. Ben B.
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    And Jake gets another K on the curve.

  65. DCPADRE
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 1:00 pm | Permalink

    Got a good feeling that Marquis de Giles is gonna break out of his slump today and return Blummer to the bench. I’m saying 3-4 with a bomb and 3 RBIs. Thoughts?

  66. pm
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 1:00 pm | Permalink

    Its clear now that agon had his career year last year and is not the player that Tex thought it was trading to the pads. He’s a 265 guy at best.

  67. Posted August 2, 2007 at 1:02 pm | Permalink

    66.

    How is that clear?

  68. Steve C
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 1:02 pm | Permalink

    Re: 65 if he hits a bomb he wont go 3-4 he will go 1-4 with 3 SO, NOG needs to stop swinging for the fences and slap the ball around the feild.

  69. Steve C
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 1:05 pm | Permalink

    Welcome to SD mr Ensberg!

  70. Posted August 2, 2007 at 1:05 pm | Permalink

    WOW!!!

  71. Tom Waits
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 1:05 pm | Permalink

    Morg-MAN Ensberg.

  72. DCPADRE
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 1:06 pm | Permalink

    ENNNNNNNNNNZZZZZ!!! (this guy needs a nickname, somebody quick!)

  73. Ben B.
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 1:06 pm | Permalink

    Welcome to the Padres, Morgan Ensberg!

  74. Posted August 2, 2007 at 1:06 pm | Permalink

    Morgan is a good addition right now.

  75. DCPADRE
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 1:07 pm | Permalink

    Anyone getting the game on MLB TV – it is saying that it is blacked out?

  76. JP
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    And Morgan should be in this lineup everyday. It’s worth a gamble. The guy is a proven power hitter when healthy.

  77. Steve C
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 1:09 pm | Permalink

    Re: 76 its nice that he hit a HR in his first AB but lets not get to ahead of ourselfs here, he is still hitting .236 on the year.

  78. pm
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 1:09 pm | Permalink

    67, because agon has been a 250 for nearly two months now. Are you saying he will be hitting 300 soon? The only way he gets on base is to walk. But I’ll take it.

  79. Steve C
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 1:13 pm | Permalink

    Re: 78 I think part of Adrians problem this year is that he is trying to hit for more power because he is in the 3/4 spot, his HR’s are up but so are his SO’s

  80. Marsh
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    72: “The hitting bandit”? As in, Morgan(na) the hitting (kissing) bandit….. might be a stretch…. but, derivations like “bandito” and what-not could be fun….

  81. Posted August 2, 2007 at 1:16 pm | Permalink

    78.

    A 2 month skid of hitting .250 isn’t exactly a clear sign that he is a career .265 “at best”. I’m not saying he’s a going to be a career .300 hitter I have no clue what he’s going to hit, it’s his 2nd season. Cut the guy some freaking slack dude the entire team is in the gutter offensively and has been all season. How many games did Adrian win for us at the begining of the season? Piling on a 2nd year player that was great last year and started of great again but has struggled for late is kind of idiotic IMO.

  82. Posted August 2, 2007 at 1:21 pm | Permalink

    For Gonzalez, two months is a small sample size.

    The game is not on on the MLBtv schedule today. The Padres are on a lot more often than last year, but still not on the schedule for every game.

    I can’t stand Byrnes either. According to Win Shares, he is actually the best player in the NL this season, based on his great fielding in left and that Arizona is a pitcher’s park. But I think his hustle is false and his hair is stupid and he is always doing those “reporting” stints on Fox that someone must think are so clever. He’s also 31, and this will probably be his career year.

    I don’t see why any team would want Johnny Damon or Andruw Jones. They are not good right now. The Yankees already paid for past performance once with Damon.

  83. Posted August 2, 2007 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    Peavy: 1,000 strikeouts.

  84. Steve C
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

    only 4,715 more to pass Ryan

  85. Tom Waits
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

    Hombre.

  86. Posted August 2, 2007 at 1:31 pm | Permalink

    Wow. Just in time for you PM!

  87. pm
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 1:32 pm | Permalink

    Works every time. When I bag on a player, he hits a HR. Way to go, Agon. I bet that one felt really good.

  88. Steve C
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 1:32 pm | Permalink

    Adrian was checking ducksnorts posts between innings

  89. pm
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 1:33 pm | Permalink

    Lets see, who should I bag on next;) I would try NOG be he may be beyond my help.

  90. Marsh
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 1:36 pm | Permalink

    Bandito!

  91. pm
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 1:37 pm | Permalink

    way beyond my help. Nice groundout NOG. Can Ensburg play second?

  92. Posted August 2, 2007 at 1:41 pm | Permalink

    PM, try Greene.

  93. Posted August 2, 2007 at 1:49 pm | Permalink

    Peavy’s ERA down to 2.33

  94. Ben B.
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 1:55 pm | Permalink

    The problem with insulting NOG to get him jump-started is someone already showed confidence in him in this thread. Clearly, he got complacent, with disastrous results. I think we need a massive effort to overcome that complacency, with everyone chipping in to insult him.

    I’ll start. NOG, you are approaching Jason Kendall territory with your hitting.

  95. Posted August 2, 2007 at 1:58 pm | Permalink

    Marcus, you are not orange.

  96. Nick G.
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:00 pm | Permalink

    who just got hurt? Gameday says injury delay . .

  97. Tom Waits
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:00 pm | Permalink

    Who’s hurt now?

  98. pm
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:00 pm | Permalink

    Marcus, I wish it was you hit with the ball at second instead of our beloved best padre player cammy. Might knock some sense into ya.

  99. Nick G.
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:01 pm | Permalink

    Cam’s hurt??? Oh, crap

  100. Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

    He remained in the game.

  101. Stu
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:03 pm | Permalink

    Cameron took a pickoff throw in the back of the head/helmet. Think he’s OK…

  102. SDSUBASEBALL
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:03 pm | Permalink

    New guys look real good and Jake looks like JaKKKKKKKKe

  103. DCPADRE
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:03 pm | Permalink

    HUGE AB for KG right here

  104. SDSUBASEBALL
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:05 pm | Permalink

    KG needs to get streaky right about now.

  105. SDSUBASEBALL
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:05 pm | Permalink

    WP cam scores runners advance. Now a little weiht is off KGs shoulders, no GIDP balls at least

  106. Ben B.
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:06 pm | Permalink

    Look at Khalil, intimidating the pitcher into throwing a wild pitch. Attaway, Khalil!

  107. SDSUBASEBALL
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:06 pm | Permalink

    and he strike out…

  108. Marsh
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:06 pm | Permalink

    Come on Bandito!

  109. Marsh
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    crap, bard first… be patient marsh… be patient….

  110. Richard
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:09 pm | Permalink

    On Gonzalez, he’s somewhere between a .250-.330 hitter. Most likely he’ll hover near .290. Batting average varies a lot from yty.

  111. Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    I told you to rip Greene.

  112. Richard
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    Khalil Greene is an overall above average player because of his power and fielding as a shortstop, but he is hitting too high in the lineup. He shouldn’t ever be above 7th and that’s only because Blum occasionally starts and second base and can’t hit higher than 8th.

  113. SDSUBASEBALL
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:13 pm | Permalink

    Quick inning for Jake

  114. Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

    I was referencing post No. 89.

  115. Richard
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

    114: Yeah, I know.

  116. SDSUBASEBALL
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:16 pm | Permalink

    Wow Marcus…. wow

  117. SDSUBASEBALL
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

    This is the start we needed from our Ace

  118. Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    117.

    SERIOUSLY!!!

    That’s 2 in a row now. I’d say he’s back on track. I’m even more impressed because it’s a day game.

  119. Stu
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:22 pm | Permalink

    Yeah, I’d say the good Jake showed up today.

  120. Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

    This inning could be it for Peavy. Or not.

  121. Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

    David Gassko had this to say about the Ensberg deal the other day:

    Ensberg has struggled since tearing a shoulder tendon last season, but I’m not convinced that his days as an All-Star caliber third baseman are over. Ensberg is hitting only .232 this season, but his healthy 19.8% line drive rate indicates that he should be hitting about .318. That would up his OPS to a very healthy .920.

    Now perhaps Ensberg’s batting average is down because he just isn’t hitting the ball that hard, even when he hits line drives, but I think it is way too early to write him off.

    http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/analyzing-the-deadline-deals1/

    And Ensberg said today the shoulder is fine, he just wasn’t getting enough regular at bats to get on track..

  122. Ben B.
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:27 pm | Permalink

    So does Jake come back for one more?

  123. Stu
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:27 pm | Permalink

    A. Peavy brought the righteous today.

    B. If we never have to see Stephen Drew again, I will be happy. He wears us out.

  124. Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:28 pm | Permalink

    103 pitches through seven innings.

  125. pm
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:28 pm | Permalink

    121, hate to see Kouze land on the bench, but if Ensberg has the hot bat, that is baseball. We gotta start winning. BTW, radio guys saying that Engberg was another Mr. Intensity. Gees, with eberg, MBx2 are we gonna have clubhouse issues? And apparently, Trevor and SA are chirping at each other. Only one solution-winning.

  126. SDSUBASEBALL
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:29 pm | Permalink

    122: I kind of doubt it

  127. SDSUBASEBALL
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:32 pm | Permalink

    125: The radio guys dont normally know what they are talking about haha they just talk so there is no silence. I have never heard of Ensberg being a problem guy. And Barrett and Bradley have both been here long enough now I think and have proven not to be a problem.

  128. Ben B.
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:33 pm | Permalink

    125: I don’t have inside information like the radio guys do, but I have never ever heard anything bad about Ensberg and chemistry or the clubhouse. He’s endured being jerked around a bit in Houston, even when he was better than guys getting starts ahead of him. The sentiment after he got traded seemed to be, great guy, too bad he struggled this year, I hope he goes somewhere and gets untracked.

  129. Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:35 pm | Permalink

    123.

    Dare I remind you that we took MB and not SD? He kills us, and we deserve it for passing on him.

  130. Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:35 pm | Permalink

    129.

    I do like it when he throws balls away though!

  131. SDSUBASEBALL
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:36 pm | Permalink

    129: MB?

  132. Ben B.
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:37 pm | Permalink

    Matt Bush.

  133. SDSUBASEBALL
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:39 pm | Permalink

    132: Thats right… all we can hope at this point is that Drew leaves the NL West and Bush develops into a good pitcher…

  134. Stu
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:39 pm | Permalink

    129, oh yeah, I know, we took Matt Bush instead of Drew (or Verlander, or Jered Weaver, whom I really wanted – shows what I know). Just bemoaning that Drew hits really well against us. Appreciate that he tries to balance it out with his fielding, however :)

    I find that idly dreaming about Bush as the next Trevor eases the sting a little.

  135. SDSUBASEBALL
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:39 pm | Permalink

    THANK YOU KG… FINALLY!

  136. pm
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:40 pm | Permalink

    Khalil, you suck:)

  137. Ben B.
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:40 pm | Permalink

    I guess we should have insulted Khalil earlier. The D-Backs do it by walking Gonzalez intentionally, and he homers.

  138. Stu
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:41 pm | Permalink

    Well done, Khalil. Leave no doubt.

  139. Steve C
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:41 pm | Permalink

    Batt Mush will never be even half of what Trevor Hoffman is

  140. Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:41 pm | Permalink

    This could be a turning point!!! Man I hope so!

  141. SDSUBASEBALL
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:41 pm | Permalink

    Now that it is 8-0 i cant see them sending Jake out there for another inning.

  142. pm
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:42 pm | Permalink

    Kha is hard to figure, never walks doesn’t work counts, but has 17 jacks, most on the team and may get to 25. Plays a nice SS too. I agree, drop him in the lineup and let him do what he does.

  143. SDSUBASEBALL
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

    I really wanted Ensberg last year, and now that he is here this year I would love to see him get a good chunk of sharts but I also dont want to see Kouz get a back seat. It finally seems like we dont have a VOID at 3B with decent minor league depth and 2 solid guys on the big club.

  144. SDSUBASEBALL
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:45 pm | Permalink

    Ok wow maybe Ensberg just needed a change of scenery.

  145. Marsh
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:46 pm | Permalink

    BANDITO! Morganna, the homerun hitting bandit!!!

  146. Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:46 pm | Permalink

    PILE IT ON!!! Ensberg!!! Nice first game as a Padre!

  147. Ben B.
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:47 pm | Permalink

    NOG, a journey of a thousand miles (to being a league average second baseman) begins with a single step (getting on base somehow in a 10-0 game).

  148. SDSUBASEBALL
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:47 pm | Permalink

    You gotta think Ensberg is going to platoon with Kouz and spilt the PT more evenly if he hits like this. We need to win, at this point you play your best players.

  149. SDSUBASEBALL
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:49 pm | Permalink

    147: Nope that would be too easy he just wants to hit a home run too and join the club

  150. Ben B.
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:50 pm | Permalink

    Gameday says he hit a line drive. I will take that as his positive first step.

  151. Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:51 pm | Permalink

    WTF is Marcus’s problem? Take a tip or 2 from your brother and look at an F-ING pitch or 2. Why be so stubborn about your approach if it’s getting you headed towards be DFA’d? Somebody needs to punch that guy in the ear and make his ass try something new!

  152. Stu
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

    145 – affirmed on Bandito. Can Ensberg play 2B?

  153. Ben B.
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

    Good job by Black to get the fragile important guys out of there.

  154. Pad fan in Portland
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

    I think Nevin should be hired as the new hitting coach.

  155. lower case michael
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

    Competition at third will hopefully keep both Kouz and Ensberg sharp

  156. Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:55 pm | Permalink

    152.

    He’s not going to play 2nd

  157. SDSUBASEBALL
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:56 pm | Permalink

    152: I dont think so. He has started every game at 3B, and 1 at SS. i think Mackowiak would be a good call at 2B, he is supposively a better IF than OF.

  158. Ben B.
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:56 pm | Permalink

    154: Heck, since he’s better than Ensberg, we better sign him right now and get him playing every day.

  159. SDSUBASEBALL
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 2:59 pm | Permalink

    158: Oh man Nevin you crap me up. He said he would do better in his shorts and flip-flops

  160. SDSUBASEBALL
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 3:00 pm | Permalink

    Blum in LF?

  161. Posted August 2, 2007 at 3:01 pm | Permalink

    158.

    Yeah really! Because Phil is better than Ensberg… Just ask him and he’ll tell you about it. That guy is a freaking a-hole to the max!!!

  162. SDSUBASEBALL
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 3:02 pm | Permalink

    Defense aside, and opinions aside, Blum is the hot bat right now. He has got to be put in the line up over Marcus.

  163. Posted August 2, 2007 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

    162.

    Unfortunantly I agree.

  164. SDSUBASEBALL
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 3:05 pm | Permalink

    Gonzo has a HR and 3 BB today, thats a good OPS line haha

  165. Ian
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

    explain how hairston is/was better than Cruz at his time of release.

    this kid doesnt even have a hit as a padre yet does he?

    strikeout machine so far!

  166. Ian
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 3:07 pm | Permalink

    and i do realize hes way younger

  167. SDSUBASEBALL
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 3:07 pm | Permalink

    I guess they saw that Cruz was slumping BAD and Hairston had more upside and he can play CF, Cruz really cant.

  168. Ian
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    161.

    i dunno, hes pretty opinionated but he was pretty nice to me when i met him.

  169. Ian
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 3:11 pm | Permalink

    i suppose thats true about cruz. i liked him anyways.

    does anyone know if Hairston is out of minor league options or not?
    (not that we have anyone better down in the farm right now)

  170. Ben B.
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    165: We can’t judge him based on how terrible he has been in his few Padre at bats. Judge him based on how terrible he has been all season. He probably has more upside than Cruz does, seeing how he is much younger and has destroyed triple A in the past. He can also play second, unlike Cruz.

  171. Posted August 2, 2007 at 3:14 pm | Permalink

    169.

    I heard someone on the radio say yesterday say that he is out of options and we can’t send him down without dfa-ing him.

  172. Ian
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 3:15 pm | Permalink

    171- yeah i figured as much.

  173. Ian
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 3:17 pm | Permalink

    good game overall nice to see us hit the ball.

    equally as nice to see the bullpen hold up!

    nice inning for ledezma

  174. Ben B.
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 3:31 pm | Permalink

    I noticed in the poll there is now one “love it” vote for the Padres deadline transactions. I didn’t see it there before Ensberg homered twice, Ledezma pitched a scoreless inning, and Mackowiak scored twice and stole a base today.

    Great work by Jake to be the stopper, just like last week in Houston.

  175. Posted August 2, 2007 at 3:35 pm | Permalink

    174.

    Maybe GY can give you some info on who that might have been. haha

  176. Marsh
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 3:36 pm | Permalink

    Have to really be encouraged by today. Yes, Jake was masterful and that in its own right is encouraging, but moreover, today was a day that several members of our bench got a chance to contribute – and contribute they did! For the first game with our new and improved bench, I’m pretty stoked by this performance.

  177. Posted August 2, 2007 at 3:44 pm | Permalink

    Hairston ripped up the minors and hasn’t gotten a real chance in the majors. Although I’m not saying the Padres have to give him that chance.

    Peavy won his 1th and lowered his ERA to 2.30, second in the league and second on his team.

    He leads the league with 154 strikeouts, 11 more than Cole Hamels. He is 32 strikeouts behind Andy Benes for the team record.

    Also, today was Wally Joyner’s first day at hitting coach. The Padres scored 11 runs.

    Greene hit his 17th home run of the season. He is on pace for 26. But with a .435 slugging. However, that’s not too bad for a Gold Glove level shorstop. Phil Nevin (2004) holds the record for homers in a Petco Park season with 26.

    And Goose Gossage, who should be in the Hall of Fame, threw out the first pitch.

  178. Posted August 2, 2007 at 4:16 pm | Permalink

    Gee, catcher doesn’t matter. I mean, with Bard, Peavy has a .646 OPS against. In four games with Barrett, .808 OPS against.

    Before trade: Pads in first, Cubs in third

    Since trade: Pads in third, Cubs in first

    KRS1, don’t mistake this for trolling… because it’s not. You guys would be well served to get the CATCHer who cannot catch the hell away from your pitchers.

  179. Didi
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 4:19 pm | Permalink

    177: Thanks for the recap, Kevin. Just found out the day game is won. Hooray! Greene should never hit higher than 6th and only occasionally at that spot. Great to see Jake be a stopper and Mo Ensberg to do so well.

    Good win, especially after the comeback in the 9th yesterday.

    NOG needs to really get some counselling. He’s insane.

  180. Sean Callahan
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 4:21 pm | Permalink

    Re: 177

    Also, today was Wally Joyner’s first day at hitting coach. The Padres scored 11 runs.

    So his first game is only 7 runs worse then Merv’s last… :)

  181. Posted August 2, 2007 at 4:23 pm | Permalink

    Yes, but Joyner is averaging 11.0. What did Merv average? ;)

  182. Sean Callahan
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 4:24 pm | Permalink

    Touche! :)

    Though, my guess is it’s all down hill from here.

  183. Didi
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 4:39 pm | Permalink

    178: Yeah, you can make any argument with that line of rationale.
    I guess the Cubs decided to start hitting and scoring runs and actually pitching after Barrett is gone and Lou went ballistic.
    Whatever works for you, dude. Oh, right, the Diamondbacks didn’t go 13-7 (9-1 to close out July) after the All Star Break, right? Wait, they did.

    But, hold on, Barrett was catching when Bell lost the game last night.
    Hmmm…..it’s his fault.

  184. Malcolm
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 4:41 pm | Permalink

    151.RE NOG: Balls in play 1st pitch .375, 2nd pitch .338 thereafter .158. 0-1 he hits .207 1-0 he hits .192 after 3 BALLS he hits .100. He probably knows or feels these splits. What are you suggesting as coach? He has a real problem as the count gets deep. BTW, back in June the Agonistes chart showed his fish score only slightly higher than average.

  185. SDSUBASEBALL
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 4:45 pm | Permalink

    I am not saying i agee with Bad News Cubs, but it might be a little more than coincidental that in games when Barrett starts we are 6-16 and games when Bard starts we are 10-5…

  186. Ben B.
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 4:52 pm | Permalink

    185: It’s a little more than coincidental in that Barrett has sucked hitting and Bard has been a little better, but only to that extent.

    184: Sure, if he can get that first ball in play he’s doing well, but he really frequently is swinging at those pitches and missing them or fouling them off, so swinging early in the count isn’t helping him much.

  187. SDSUBASEBALL
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 4:54 pm | Permalink

    186: I dont know, I think they should start giving Bard the majority of the starts, he gives you good at bats and it seems like the pitchers like throwing to him more. Barrett hasnt done anything since he was aquired that earns him the majority of the starts.

  188. Pad fan in Portland
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 5:13 pm | Permalink

    Good news for Badnews, I just got off the phone with KT, Barrett is history.

  189. Marsh
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 5:20 pm | Permalink

    I think if we beat Cain tomorrow night – despite his struggles this year – then we might build some momentum. That guy has really killed us in the past….

  190. Posted August 2, 2007 at 5:33 pm | Permalink

    Really, he is being released?

  191. Pad fan in Portland
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 5:37 pm | Permalink

    190: Just off my fantasy team, he’s really hurting my pitching staff.

  192. Posted August 2, 2007 at 5:40 pm | Permalink

    Great. Thanks for the false alarm or false good news.

  193. Malcolm
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 5:47 pm | Permalink

    191. You’ll not be called up to SD for a while.

  194. Malcolm
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 5:59 pm | Permalink

    186. Not that I’m suggesting that NOG’s problem is NOT swinging earlier in the count, but for general knowledge is there some reference that shows % of balls in play by pitch count?

  195. Ben B.
    Posted August 2, 2007 at 7:03 pm | Permalink

    No, I don’t know where to check for that. It would be useful to see what percent of the time he’s swinging at the first pitch, what percent of the time it gets put in play, what percent of the time it’s fouled off, and what percent of the time he misses.

    I’m not really saying that swinging earlier in the count is NOG’s problem, just that those batting average numbers don’t necessarily mean NOG is hitting well when he swings at the first pitch.

    Matt Antonelli homered again today.

  196. Didi
    Posted August 3, 2007 at 8:54 am | Permalink

    184, 195: Don’t quite know how to find the numbers yet but Wally should tell him to lay off those first two pitches to start.

    This year (I don’t know what the in-game situation was), NOG has:
    - drew 9 BB in 9 PA when he got to 3-0,
    - OPS 1.082 with 12 BB in 22 PA at 3-1.
    These are small sample sizes but this also show how rarely does he get to those count.
    However, just going through his other count situation quickly, he’s not very successful in the first three pitches situation either. Perhaps, NOG is just not very good.

    His numbers by month:

    Month AB H BB SO OBP SLG OPS
    April 98 32 8 13 .376 .459 .835
    May 100 22 12 20 .316 .310 .626
    June 101 21 11 22 .286 .277 .563
    July 63 9 4 14 .194 .190 .384

  197. Malcolm
    Posted August 3, 2007 at 11:28 am | Permalink

    197. Agreed as to your last point. The trend is down this year and for his career. Still not conviced about taking 2 pitches. His #’s after 0-2,1-1,&2-0(only 12x) are terrible. There is virtually no relationship in his P/PA to RC/G over his career. 2007 is the lowest for both ,but the next lowest P/PA ws 2004, his best RC year.

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