IGD: Padres vs Dodgers (12 Jun 08)
Thu, Jun 12, 2008
by Geoff Young
Padres (29-38) vs Dodgers (31-34)
Jake Peavy vs Hiroki Kuroda
12:35 p.m. PT
no television
AM 1090, FM 105.7, XM 184
MLB, B-R
My latest article at Hardball Times deals with the limits of our knowledge and understanding in a baseball context. It’s a bit esoteric, even by my standards, but maybe you’ll enjoy it…
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Meanwhile, back at the ballpark, Peavy makes his first start since May 14. He’s 1-3 with a 4.71 ERA over his last five starts. Here’s hoping the rest will have done him some good. Go Padres!
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June 12, 2008 at 7:43 am
Pads signed their 1st pick and their second round pick…
http://www3.signonsandiego.com.....dominican/
June 12, 2008 at 7:43 am
Padres have agreed to terms with their first two picks. So far, we’re 1-for-1 in getting guys to forego college: http://www3.signonsandiego.com.....dominican/
June 12, 2008 at 7:44 am
#1@Coronado Mike: JINX!
June 12, 2008 at 8:01 am
In other amateur news-this from Baseball America:
“The teams showing more interest in big-money international signings this year than in the recent past include the Reds, Athletics, Padres, Astros, Cardinals and Indians, with the Padres strongly linked to at least three players who could sign for seven-figure bonuses. In the weeks leading up to July 2, Baseball America will give subscribers more insight on some of the players expected to command the highest bonuses.”
http://www.baseballamerica.com.....66316.html
Encouraging that we might be going after some of the high ceiling talent that’s available. Latin American prospects do appear to be a bit more cost effective historically than there drafted U.S. counterparts. A guy who is in the Dominican, but would be a top-ten pick might still command the 2 million dollar bonus, but he won’t be asking for the MLB contract since he’s only 16.
June 12, 2008 at 8:10 am
1&2 … good news about Dykstra & Decker … thanks for the links, guys! I’m planning to take and post pictures of Dykstra from Eugene’s home opener on June 22nd!
From that same UT article …
Dodgers manager Joe Torre plans to rest catcher Russell Martin and second baseman Jeff Kent today.
… which is fine by me!
June 12, 2008 at 8:13 am
More international “news.” ESPN has some ideas about who the Padres are targeting with their int’l money. They have us close with the #4 and 6 players on this list:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=3433834
June 12, 2008 at 8:24 am
Other notable notes from the UT article …
Black said catcher Josh Bard, who suffered a high ankle sprain May 21, is closer to coming off the DL than is pitcher Shawn Estes, though neither is due back for at least two weeks. Estes, who has a fractured thumb, probably won’t be ready before late July.
June 12, 2008 at 8:25 am
Gaaak … MadFriars is reporting this …
Mat Latos worked one-plus inning before being pulled from the contest. He pitched to a single batter in the sixth before leaving the game after re-injuring his oblique.
… what a bummer
June 12, 2008 at 8:53 am
#8@LynchMob: Man, have all of the pitchers we’ve drafted lately just been totally snake-bit or what?
June 12, 2008 at 9:03 am
Was our signing of Dykstra (1) at, (2) above, or (3) below slot?? I’m assuming that it was at slot, as Dykstra was picked above where most had assumed he would go, so he would be “fortunate” (so to speak) to receive slot…..
June 12, 2008 at 9:07 am
#4@Paul R, #6@Paul R: Thanks for the info. I’m looking forward to signing day!
#8@LynchMob: Ah, that stinks.
June 12, 2008 at 9:19 am
Always good to look at this standings overview …
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/team_audit.php
Shows Padres at a run differential of nearly a run/game (0.91, actually) … but in the win-column, the Padres are 2.2 wins over expected result … whereas all other NL West teams are under …
It will be good to pass the Giants …
June 12, 2008 at 9:22 am
#10@Marsh: It looks like right at slot. This year the bonus “recommendations” were up 10% from last year, and last year’s 23rd pick (Nick Schmidt) got 1.26 million.
June 12, 2008 at 10:04 am
GY: nice THT article as a way of introducing that line of thinking. I object to the use of Rivera in any article, however.
Nice signing so far. Now OG can pass on his prank skills into the organization onto Jaff.
June 12, 2008 at 10:43 am
Hmmm, I’ve missed the fact that the Padres are playing the “Hall of Fame Game” on Monday … but LaMond Pope at the Ft Wayne newspaper notes this …
http://jgwebblogs.typepad.com/wizards/
Eleven Wizards will join the Padres at the Hall of Fame Game in Cooperstown, N.Y. on Monday. San Diego plays the Cubs. Pitchers Aaron Breit, Bryan Oland, Jackson Quezada, Geoff Vandel and Robert Woodard, infielders Justin Baum, Drew Cumberland and Lance Zawadzki, catcher Luis Martinez and outfielders Yefri Carvajal and Robert Perry will make the trip.
“I’m excited about it. It’s going to be a good experience, if I get in the game, even if I don’t, it will be a great experience for me,” Breit said.
Breit and Cumberland said they’ve never been to Cooperstown, home of the Baseball Hall of Fame.
June 12, 2008 at 11:25 am
Nice (and classic) to see Dogs on this BP STAT OF THE DAY
Bottom 5 NL Team Defenses, by Defensive Efficiency
Team, DEF_EFF
Pittsburgh Pirates, .684
Cincinnati Reds, .687
Colorado Rockies, .694
Washington Nationals, .695
Los Angeles Dodgers, .698
June 12, 2008 at 12:03 pm
#15@LynchMob: The Hall of Fame game was rumored to be the first “big league” game for Headley and then they’d recall him after that game to play DH for the series in Yankee Stadium.
#2@Phantom: The Padres have actually signed their first three picks as Forsyth was signed right away for a bonus of $835,000.
June 12, 2008 at 12:16 pm
#17@Schlom: Sawyer Carroll is also shown as signed on BA’s page.
June 12, 2008 at 12:19 pm
It looks like if you have Extra Innings — like I do — you will be able to see the game. The Dodgers feed of the game.
June 12, 2008 at 12:30 pm
The Dodgers starting Angel Berroa again, luckily for the Padres. I don’t understand why they would send down Hu if Berroa was his replacement, what’s the point of that? The Dodgers already know that Berroa can’t hit (or field either), why not find out if Hu can? Even hitting .125 (or whatever he did), he wouldn’t be any worse then Berroa.
I alluded to this last night. I’m not really a fan of bringing up older players and giving them a shot (like E-Gon and P-Mac) but at least the Padres aren’t sure what they can do at the major league level. The Dodgers already know what Berroa can do — he was cut by the Royals of all teams.
June 12, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Kemp not playing today, starting a suspension.
June 12, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Jake seems to be throwing hard enough.
June 12, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Another stolen base against the Padres that meant nothing. Peavy strikes out one.
June 12, 2008 at 12:46 pm
#15@LynchMob:
For anyone who is interested, the “Hall of Fame Game” is airing on WGN Monday morning at 11:00 I believe. I would assume the blackout restrictions do not apply since Quis announced the time and channel last night on the pregame show. My Tivo is already setup with its fingers crossed.
June 12, 2008 at 12:46 pm
Mets are holding on to a 4-2 lead over the Snakes in the top of the 8th. But AZ has runners on the corners.
June 12, 2008 at 12:48 pm
1st and 3rd, no outs, c’mon OG.
June 12, 2008 at 12:48 pm
#21@Kevin: I was wondering why Kemp wasn’t starting.
June 12, 2008 at 12:48 pm
Giles — 3-run homer.
June 12, 2008 at 12:49 pm
DONG!! DONG!! DONG!! DONG!! DONG!! DONG!!
DONG!! DONG!! DONG!! DONG!! DONG!! DONG!!
DONG!! DONG!! DONG!! DONG!! DONG!! DONG!!
June 12, 2008 at 12:49 pm
OG!
June 12, 2008 at 12:49 pm
#22@Tom Waits: He looked good.
June 12, 2008 at 12:49 pm
OG DONG! OG DONG! OG DONG! OG DONG! OG DONG! OG DONG!
OG DONG! OG DONG! OG DONG! OG DONG! OG DONG! OG DONG!
OG DONG! OG DONG! OG DONG! OG DONG! OG DONG! OG DONG!
June 12, 2008 at 12:50 pm
And the Mets stopped the bleeding against the Snakes, 4 - 2 Mets in the bottom of the 8th.
June 12, 2008 at 12:50 pm
Adrian — home run.
June 12, 2008 at 12:51 pm
Back to back!
June 12, 2008 at 12:51 pm
DONG!! DONG!! DONG!! DONG!! DONG!! DONG!!
DONG!! DONG!! DONG!! DONG!! DONG!! DONG!!
DONG!! DONG!! DONG!! DONG!! DONG!! DONG!!
DONG!!
June 12, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Koumanoff — HBP.
June 12, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Giles with a homerun at home no less! Three at home this season (of 4 homers), last season he hit 1 of 13 at home.
June 12, 2008 at 12:52 pm
According to Gameday, AG crushed it to Left-Center
June 12, 2008 at 12:53 pm
Hey, I *like* this game!
I pity the guy that got stuck in traffic and missed the first inning
June 12, 2008 at 12:53 pm
Kouz just hit by the pitch. Kuroda doesn’t have it today.
June 12, 2008 at 12:54 pm
#38@Schlom: Petco during the day is a good hitters park.
June 12, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Mets have 1st, 2nd no outs, bot of 8th
June 12, 2008 at 12:56 pm
Looks like Koruda got squeezed maybe on Ball 4 to PMac. But we’ll take it.
June 12, 2008 at 12:57 pm
PMac with the walk. He is looking more like a major league hitter. With his walk skills, he’d be a good leadoff man except for his so-far poor baserunning.
June 12, 2008 at 12:58 pm
And Carlin with his first RBI
June 12, 2008 at 12:58 pm
It was a groundout, but it counts.
June 12, 2008 at 1:00 pm
Mac had a .363 on-base coming into the game, which is very good, especially when considering Petco.
June 12, 2008 at 1:01 pm
After 1 …
Pitches-strikes - H Kuroda 28-15; J Peavy 14-10.
Ground balls-fly balls - H Kuroda 3-0; J Peavy 1-1.
Batters faced - H Kuroda 9; J Peavy 4.
… back to work! (both them and me
)
June 12, 2008 at 1:02 pm
5-0 lead after one. I feel better about missing the next couple innings to run errands.
June 12, 2008 at 1:05 pm
#50@Kevin: As long as you accept the responsibility for the possible jinx.
June 12, 2008 at 1:08 pm
I go to one little meeting, and it is 5-0.
June 12, 2008 at 1:08 pm
I forgot that the Padres are at Cleveland starting tomorrow. I guess we’ll know whether they plan on calling up Headley tomorrow if he’s not in the lineup tonight. Portland is playing at Fresno tonight at 7:05.
June 12, 2008 at 1:09 pm
4-3 Mets, No outs, Snakes on 2nd, 3rd.
June 12, 2008 at 1:11 pm
Wagner walks the next guy on four pitches. Snakes have bases full with no outs, bases full.
June 12, 2008 at 1:14 pm
#52@Field39: Go to another one.
June 12, 2008 at 1:16 pm
Two runs in now for Snakes, tied at 4, 2 outs, runners on 1st, 3rd, Reynolds up.
Did the Pads jinx Wagner or what?
June 12, 2008 at 1:18 pm
I’m going to lunch. The Mets and Snakes are tied going into the bottom of the ninth.
June 12, 2008 at 1:18 pm
Wagner is *done* … he coughs up another save … Mets and DBacks tied 4-4 in top of 9th
June 12, 2008 at 1:27 pm
Box score shows KK striking out between an AGon walk and a PMac walk … could he have been more patient in his AB?
June 12, 2008 at 1:35 pm
Mac should be a good option as long as we keep him hitting against righties. ML teams use way too few platoons these days, but our Huber/Mac and Hairston/Gerut style OFs are actually not bad and quite inexpensive.
June 12, 2008 at 1:53 pm
#60@LynchMob: Waved at three sliders.
June 12, 2008 at 1:56 pm
#61@Alan: Agree, although it might be nice to have PMac’s right-handed partner be someone who can hit lefties and play good defense. I like Huber on the bench, and he’s made a couple of tough catches, but he generally doesn’t look too good out there.
6 runs on 6 hits, and it still seems like we should have 2 or 3 more easy.
June 12, 2008 at 1:56 pm
#62@Phantom: Bleh I hope Pedro Cerano Syndrome is not contagious….
June 12, 2008 at 2:17 pm
#48@Kevin: How much of a factor is Petco on OBP ?
June 12, 2008 at 2:20 pm
#65@JP: Not sure. But average is a large part of on-base. And either way, his on-base is quite good for an average park.
June 12, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Good to see Jake out with just 72 pitches. They really could have waited longer so it’s nice to see a relatively low stress outing.
How did he look? Was his velocity fine?
June 12, 2008 at 2:22 pm
Hey, I like what Jake’s doing on 27 days rest … after top of 6th …
Pitches-strikes - H Kuroda 63-33; C Park 24-17; J Peavy 72-52.
Ground balls-fly balls - H Kuroda 4-1; C Park 6-1; J Peavy 7-7.
Batters faced - H Kuroda 17; C Park 7; J Peavy 21.
June 12, 2008 at 2:22 pm
#59@LynchMob: Are you at least sort of joking?
June 12, 2008 at 2:23 pm
#63@Tom Waits: You have convinced me that it is too early to write off Huber (you made a comparison I liked with Bubba Trammell) but you think by now that Huber would be showing a bit more power (150+ PA’s with only 7 extra base hits - not too mention that he has only walked 9 times).
June 12, 2008 at 2:24 pm
#66@Kevin: PMAC gets on base-no doubt about it.
June 12, 2008 at 2:26 pm
#65@JP:
#66@Kevin:
Since it opened, all hitters at Petco have gone 244/312/377. Across all NL parks including Petco, the line is 265/335/425. So it’s a pretty serious dip, and as Kevin suggests, it’s largely driven by batted balls not falling.
June 12, 2008 at 2:29 pm
#69@Kevin: Yes, poking fun at myself a bit for my stance on Trevor … Wagner is in a small-sample-size-slump, however … which was OK when it was versus Padres … but now that it’s versus DBacks, it’s not pretty …
June 12, 2008 at 2:31 pm
#72@Tom Waits: How do those number split between day and night games? Perhaps the fans would be happier with day games … in more ways than one!
June 12, 2008 at 2:32 pm
#70@JP: I’d just throw away his 78 at-bats as a 22 year old. They’re basically useless in predicting anything. Not that he’s been great since then, but not only is he still getting his feet wet in the majors, he’s doing it while getting 1 start every 8 games or so.
June 12, 2008 at 2:33 pm
#73@LynchMob: Yeah, it’s hard to say a closer with a 2.33 ERA, a 1.00 WHIP and 10.67 K rate is done.
June 12, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Edgar (small sample size) has a .316 average and a .381 on-base. Not only very good, but clearly better than Iguchi at .259/.324.
June 12, 2008 at 2:38 pm
#74@LynchMob: No idea.
#73@LynchMob: I’ve never really liked Wagner. He seems to have some Nevin in him, “Being a good teammate is what I say it is.” That could be totally unfair of me.
June 12, 2008 at 2:39 pm
#77@Kevin: Better than that, now. He’s having himself a day.
June 12, 2008 at 2:40 pm
#72@Tom Waits: I’d be curious to see what the BABIP numbers are.
June 12, 2008 at 2:41 pm
bRoBI!
June 12, 2008 at 2:41 pm
And we add on a bit more. Love to see them do this.
It’s been an awesome homestand. I hope we can carry this level of play through the ASB.
June 12, 2008 at 2:44 pm
Geez, Kouz. Maybe Stansberry gets the start tomorrow.
June 12, 2008 at 2:46 pm
#79@Tom Waits: Those numbers were through his first three at-bats today. He is now batting .328.
June 12, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Not sure if I’m the last one to know this, but Thatcher was the pitcher who was sent down for Peavy.
June 12, 2008 at 2:51 pm
#76@Kevin: But it’s not hard to say a closer who’s blown 3 saves in a row “done” … it’s not right … but it’s not hard to say … his ERA was 0.36 until Tony Clark started him on this tailspin …
June 12, 2008 at 2:55 pm
#77@Kevin: Ha I was just about to post that Guchi may turn into Wally Pip.
June 12, 2008 at 2:56 pm
#86@LynchMob: It may not be hard to say. But it’s over-reactionary. Three bad outings after the epitome of dominance is the consumate defintion of small sample size.
June 12, 2008 at 2:57 pm
#87@Steve C: If Edgar maintains .300/.350, there’s no reason to sit him when Iguchi comes back.
June 12, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Nothing but good at-bats from McAnulty today.
June 12, 2008 at 3:01 pm
#90@Tom Waits: to bad we can’t say the same about his base running…
June 12, 2008 at 3:03 pm
Too bad for Greene that Young made a highlight reel catch.
June 12, 2008 at 3:04 pm
“Now the Dodgers know they could have spent the day at the beach. — Scully
June 12, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Greene was out on an incredible catch. The other two outs came on really hard hit balls right at outfielders.
June 12, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Sorry, Edgar lined out to third on a hard hit ball.
June 12, 2008 at 3:10 pm
Stansberry’s new line: 1.000/1.000/1.500 in two plate appearances.
June 12, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Giles: nice catch on warning track.
June 12, 2008 at 3:13 pm
#81@Tom Waits: bRoBI?
June 12, 2008 at 3:15 pm
#98@LynchMob: Adrian knocked in Edgar.
June 12, 2008 at 3:17 pm
#88@Kevin: Agree 100% … which is what I meant by poking fun at myself for my stance on Hoffy …
#83@Tom Waits: Great idea … I think getting KK a day off might help him …
#89@Kevin: Edgar sure looked like a real hitter when I saw him @ Peoria … and his approach at the plate looks very solid in these recent games … I like him …
June 12, 2008 at 3:18 pm
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