IGD: Padres vs Dodgers (31 Aug 07)
Fri, Aug 31, 2007
by Geoff Young
| time: | 7:05 p.m. PT |
| tv: | 4SD |
| sp: | Jack Cassel (0-0, 6.00) vs David Wells (6-8, 5.46) |
| pre: | Padres.com, B-R.com |
Jack Cassel makes his first big-league start. Cassel’s brother is an NFL quarterback — he backs up the dreamy Tom Brady in New England. Who knew…
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August 31, 2007 at 6:16 pm
Good evening all. A few propositions for discussion:
Over/under number of Tom Brady mentions by Matt & Mud: 4.5
Over/under number of mentions of Tom Brady’s illegitimate child by Matt & Mud: 1.5
Over/under length of Cassel’s start: 5 1/3 IP
Note: this is not an endorsement of gambling in any way. Our Ducksnorts overlords have nothing to do with this
August 31, 2007 at 6:28 pm
Didn’t everyone know that about Cassel from his first trip up earlier this month?
August 31, 2007 at 6:29 pm
OT (sort of) - ex-Charger Rodney Harrison gets a 4-game suspension for using HGH. From a Bolt fan’s perspective, this makes it a tiny bit easier to rebut jackarse Patriot fans who rip on Merriman.
August 31, 2007 at 6:30 pm
2 - definitely (at least among those of us who spend time here on DS), but given that he’s starting and football season is imminent, I imagine the producers will make that the “storyline” for tonight.
August 31, 2007 at 6:33 pm
The guy should be 1-0, had Claw not slipped in Cincy. Anyone remember that? Talk about a pitch to contact guy, look at his stats from PDX.
August 31, 2007 at 6:53 pm
Does Bard ever get a rest?
August 31, 2007 at 6:59 pm
6: Word on the street is that they DFA’s LaForest today. Whassup with that?
August 31, 2007 at 7:01 pm
The Pads needed to make a 25-man roster move to get Cassel up. Barrett comes back tomorrow…maybe LaForest was the odd man out.
August 31, 2007 at 7:02 pm
7 - I guess they needed to make space for Cassel somehow, although I’d rather see us with 3 catchers in September (especially since one of them is Barrett…).
Who else do we have at Portland…Luke Carlin???
August 31, 2007 at 7:05 pm
Just checked in on today’s open thread to see that Keith Law stopped by. At least he had the balls to show up.
I would agree with a lot of what Tom said about having the conclusions before finding the data to fit them.
August 31, 2007 at 7:08 pm
nice play by Cassel & KG to get the lead runner.
August 31, 2007 at 7:10 pm
Wells just does not look right in a Dodger uniform. at all.
August 31, 2007 at 7:10 pm
Yeah, the DFA of LaForest is a bit mystifying. I really liked him and I hope we can resign him to a minor league contract.
August 31, 2007 at 7:11 pm
Crap. At least we got Kent at third, but crap.
They’re hitting Cassel hard.
August 31, 2007 at 7:11 pm
14 - yes and yes. let’s see how he does in the 2nd.
the fifth starter woes continue…
August 31, 2007 at 7:15 pm
We gotta take pitches tonite and wait for Boomer to get frustrated and/or make a mistake.
August 31, 2007 at 7:17 pm
Good approach and good at-bats so far. Now, *score the runners*!!!
August 31, 2007 at 7:21 pm
16, 17: It’s not going to matter if the umpire is going to give Wells that outside corner all night on the curve. Neither of those were strikes to Bradley. Of course it won’t matter either if Buddy keeps calling double steals.
August 31, 2007 at 7:21 pm
wow, Adrian just saved Buddy from some serious second guessing
August 31, 2007 at 7:22 pm
18: Agree with all points. Hopefully Boomer doesn’t feed Khalil nothing but breaking pitches.
August 31, 2007 at 7:25 pm
Cheap knock by my boy!!! Juan Pierre, but CF ever!!!
August 31, 2007 at 7:28 pm
21: That was supposed to read best CF ever!
August 31, 2007 at 7:29 pm
that was an ugly inning with a good outcome. the second inning will tell us much more about which pitcher has good stuff tonight.
August 31, 2007 at 7:33 pm
niiiiiiice DP
August 31, 2007 at 7:33 pm
Crap, I just lost a long comment.. Okay, here’s my comment in much fewer words:
(1) Great exchange with Keith Law today;
(2) Ducksnorts clearly has thoughtful, creative, and perhaps sometimes emotional, contributors who are capable of clearly developing and articulating leading analyses; and
(3) I think baseball writers, particularly San Diego writers, are taking notice. Its ostensibly a daily occurrence now that something is posted in an IGD thread one evening and then run in print the next day. Could be that great minds think alike, and it could also be that ducksnorts contributors are really on-top of things…
All in all, great stuff and keep up the oustanding work (even Tom W.)…..
August 31, 2007 at 7:35 pm
Nice inning Jack! Even though he gives up the hits, we get out of it.
That GIDP by Martin was seriously made to order.
I know that Cassel had a pretty lousy record in Portland, but what were his peripherals? I’m really curios about K/BB, WHIP, and BAA
August 31, 2007 at 7:35 pm
25 - agreed on all points.
August 31, 2007 at 7:39 pm
Is it just me, or is DS refreshing pretty slowly tonite?
August 31, 2007 at 7:43 pm
28 - nope, it’s slow. the server must be getting tired this late in the season.
August 31, 2007 at 7:43 pm
Milton with an Eric Byrnes impression in left
August 31, 2007 at 7:44 pm
What’s going on with the air tonight. No wind, but the ball is going crazy far.
August 31, 2007 at 7:50 pm
31: Well hopefully we can take advantage of that.
August 31, 2007 at 7:52 pm
Geez, come on Blum.
August 31, 2007 at 7:57 pm
I do not like Russell Martin. Liquid annoying, he is.
August 31, 2007 at 7:57 pm
34: I really wish he was a Padre.
That run is on Blum. No way should that have been a run-scoring base hit right there.
August 31, 2007 at 8:00 pm
thankfully the Dodgers are playing Shea Hillenbrand tonight.
August 31, 2007 at 8:07 pm
35 - agreed. just so we’re clear; I hate playing against him, same as Jose Reyes and Matt Holliday and a few other Padre killers. But I’d be quite pleased to have them on my team.
August 31, 2007 at 8:08 pm
37: I’m actually only that high on Martin, and maybe Holliday. I think Reyes is actually somewhat over-rated, especially his defense.
August 31, 2007 at 8:08 pm
#28/29: Thanks, guys; I’ll see if I can clean stuff up a little this weekend…
August 31, 2007 at 8:08 pm
25: Hey! “Even Tom W?”
August 31, 2007 at 8:10 pm
39: Jeez Geoff. An ESPN writer stops by and you let all thought of decorum go to hell. I’m disapointed in you, young man.
Actually, you’ve got to feel pretty good about Law showing up, even if he’s a little deluded.
August 31, 2007 at 8:11 pm
39 - no worries, Geoff - it’s running fine now. coulda been net congestion or something else network-related.
August 31, 2007 at 8:12 pm
42: Yep, it’s cleared up quite a bit. I feel like a strung-out coke addict today, what with my rapidity of posting on both blogs.
August 31, 2007 at 8:13 pm
Nice shovel pass to Adrian.
August 31, 2007 at 8:14 pm
44: Great play on both ends there. Set down Pierre quietly Jack.
August 31, 2007 at 8:14 pm
Uni Watch-esque comment - Adrian looks good in the high socks.
August 31, 2007 at 8:14 pm
41: Yeah. It’s impressive that Mr. Law showed up. He seemed to confuse me with some knuckle-draggers, but I admit my knuckles aren’t that far above the floor.
42: The pipes of the internets were clogged.
August 31, 2007 at 8:15 pm
47: I think you put his feet to the fire pretty well. Especially your point about him criticizing sample sizes for Bell and Liney, but blatantly abusing them for Antonelli. There’s really no way he can reconcile those two positions. Unless, as you suggest, he’s just lazy and only finds data that matches his conclusions.
August 31, 2007 at 8:16 pm
#46: Stu, that sounded kinda Hillcrestish.
August 31, 2007 at 8:17 pm
49: Hey, that’s nothing compared to my brilliant “Russel the Muscle” comments. Oy.
August 31, 2007 at 8:18 pm
49 - not that there’s anything wrong with that
The baggy baseball pants vs. stirrups/socks is a pet peeve of mine. I like the old school look.
August 31, 2007 at 8:22 pm
Looks like this will probably be Boomer’s last inning.
August 31, 2007 at 8:27 pm
Just got back from the beach. Head high sets and glad to see Boomer not no-hitting us. Speaking of Boomer I saw/talked with him 3 weeks b4 he signed in the offseason. He was down at Sunset Cliffs with a huge 400 mm lens taking pics of surfers. I asked him if he was coming back and he said, ” I LOVE SD - I’m comin back”. Good guy but I hope he lose tonight. Go fricken Pads!!!
August 31, 2007 at 8:30 pm
#53: Does he still live in Point Loma?
August 31, 2007 at 8:33 pm
Well at least Cammy knows how to lead a moving target when he’s shooting a missle.
August 31, 2007 at 8:35 pm
Awful throw by Cameron. Absolutely awful. There’s no way Kent should have scored.
August 31, 2007 at 8:36 pm
Easy to second guess here, but am I the only one who thought Cassel was done LAST inning?
August 31, 2007 at 8:38 pm
57: It’s not Cassel’s fault. With a guy that gives up balls in play, you’ve got to be solid on defense. Blum and Cameron have made critical mistakes tonite that have cost us two runs.
August 31, 2007 at 8:40 pm
I’m watching the game, I get that. I’m just saying the guy gave you five innings, gave up some louds outs, didn’t get any help. You pinch-hit for him (to leadoff an inning, at that) and get to your pen.
August 31, 2007 at 8:40 pm
58 - yeah, Cassel is a lot like CY and before him, Brian Lawrence, in that the other team will put the ball into play. defensive mistakes will get amplified.
1 - you were good, barely, if you took the over
August 31, 2007 at 8:41 pm
#54 : I didn’t ask but I think he does. When I saw him I just thought, “oh yeah — he lives around here/went to school……– pretty cool”. I like the guy but in Feb 2007 he was about 100 lbs. overweight and I was AMAZED he could pitch at the Major League level. Go padres!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 31, 2007 at 8:41 pm
57 - I thought he was doing well enough that sending him out for the 6th was a good move.
August 31, 2007 at 8:43 pm
62: Yep, they didn’t really hit anything hard off him either.
August 31, 2007 at 8:45 pm
Kemp F-8 in the first, Kent’s double. Wells’ fly ball in the second. Furcal’s fly ball in the third. Maybe not crushed, but hit hard.
August 31, 2007 at 8:47 pm
64: I was referring to the sixth. Sorry.
August 31, 2007 at 8:47 pm
Random…….Early in the ’80’s I asked Reggie Jackson for an autograph at Angel Stadium and he told me to
“Shut Up Kid!”.
I was 9 years old!!!!!!!!!
August 31, 2007 at 8:48 pm
59 - agreed that Cassel should have been PH for after 5.
August 31, 2007 at 8:53 pm
awesome - Adrain scored! crap - Kouz got nailed.
Bard’s BA w/ RISP continues to amaze
August 31, 2007 at 8:53 pm
Bard is simply amazing with RISP. Amazing.
August 31, 2007 at 8:54 pm
Hensley must be pouting tonight in Portland. 7 runs, 6 earned so far through 5.
August 31, 2007 at 8:54 pm
Man we have hit some hard balls tonight and have nothing to show for them.
August 31, 2007 at 8:55 pm
71: Yep. Khalil has just missed a HR and a double. Cameron, Adrian, and Blum are wearing out the corner IFs.
August 31, 2007 at 8:55 pm
71: Yep. Khalil has just missed a HR and a double. Cameron, Adrian, and Blum are wearing out the corner IFs.
August 31, 2007 at 9:06 pm
Walks. That’s what we need more of. Nice work Cameron.
August 31, 2007 at 9:07 pm
What’s the poll results on “mentioning of Tom Brady’s illegitimate child” by Matt and T Gwynn? Love the guy BUT kids are way more important than banging hot chicks. Take care of your kids or they will become Ryan Leaf, or worse Pac Man Jones or????suggestions???
Back to the game…..we can do this………
Go Padreees.
August 31, 2007 at 9:11 pm
Well done Milton
August 31, 2007 at 9:11 pm
Nice work Bradley. Seriously, pick up of the year. That man is SOOOO important to the Padres right now.
August 31, 2007 at 9:11 pm
Man, I love team speed.
August 31, 2007 at 9:12 pm
75 - Omar, I should have taken that prop off the board as soon as I learned TGwynn was announcing. Mud is much more likely to prattle on about stuff like that; Tony is all business.
There have been two mentions of Tom Brady so far…
August 31, 2007 at 9:13 pm
78 - speed kills
August 31, 2007 at 9:19 pm
A rare misplay by Gonzo - he might have to ditch the high socks…
August 31, 2007 at 9:21 pm
hey i’m your #1 fan . Khalil greene your cool and i’m 8 year’s old. My dad is letting typing
August 31, 2007 at 9:26 pm
# 79 : Stu…….No worries about taking off the post……I just looked at the first post and found it interesting. Mud would definitely bring it up more than TGwynn the PRO but like you said it’s been mentioned twice without him. Good job!!!
August 31, 2007 at 9:28 pm
6-3………..I’ll take 10-3………………Screw the Dod-Gers
August 31, 2007 at 9:28 pm
Rockies tied up the Snakes. 3-all, bottom 9, AZ hitting…
August 31, 2007 at 9:30 pm
Matty is talking about tomorrow’s September callups…mentioned Brady Clark, which is not surprising.
August 31, 2007 at 9:30 pm
C’mon Rox! Keep it going!
August 31, 2007 at 9:30 pm
86 - and Bryan Myrow, a left-handed-hitting infielder.
August 31, 2007 at 9:31 pm
Brian Myrow is the other. Good for him.
August 31, 2007 at 9:32 pm
#82: You type better than your Dad! LOL Very cool and welcome to Ducksnorts!
August 31, 2007 at 9:32 pm
82: Khalil Greene is cool: 37 doubles with a month left
August 31, 2007 at 9:35 pm
Used to be I’d give a sigh of relief when Trever comes in. But lately, I get a little nervous not knowing what kind of night he is going to have.
August 31, 2007 at 9:37 pm
Rockies lead off the 10th with a *triple*…
August 31, 2007 at 9:39 pm
…and the runner scores, 4-3 Rox!
August 31, 2007 at 9:42 pm
#92: Thankfully a good one. Thanks Trevor.
August 31, 2007 at 9:43 pm
sweet. pick up a game on the Dodgers, the bats stay hot, and hopefully knock the Snakes a game back. a good night all around.
August 31, 2007 at 9:44 pm
Pads continue their ownage. Nice work boys!!!
August 31, 2007 at 9:52 pm
Danny is my name. and I enjoy the padres game’s.My dad said I got to go to bed and good night and c u later.
GO PADRES!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 31, 2007 at 9:55 pm
7 to 3 Rox!!! Go Rox! Experience 1st Place Pads fans!!!
August 31, 2007 at 9:57 pm
Guys…..Thanks for being so cool with my son OB1 (danny). Dude LOVES KG and I’m stoked he does. Anyways….promise not to let him in again during a bloody Dodgers game.
Late.
Omar
August 31, 2007 at 9:58 pm
100: We try to keep it civil over here. Just keep him away from GLB.
And I don’t think there could be a better role model than KG. Maybe CY…
August 31, 2007 at 10:01 pm
Pads in 1st. D-backs lose.
August 31, 2007 at 10:08 pm
#100: Omar, Danny is welcome anytime. I think it cool that you let him join us.
August 31, 2007 at 10:50 pm
Really happy to see that the Padres rewarded Brian Myrow with a call up. Love to see him win a game with a big hit.
BTW, where is the love for the man hated on this blog more than Blum, Doug Brocail ? Has he not stepped up in the last few months and pitched above average ball ? There are not many ‘end of staff’ /middle relievers on any staff in MLB that has pitched better than this guy. Truthfully, I have more confidence in Brocail than I have in Cla Meredith. hands down….go Padres. I want a 92 win season !!!!
September 1, 2007 at 12:01 am
I am bummed about Pete Laforest getting DFA’d. What exactly did the guy have to do? He’s rarely played, but all he’s done all year is hit the ball well. He seemed like the better catcher than Barrett lately.
September 1, 2007 at 12:25 am
Yeah, the LaForest DFA is mystifying. We couldn’t have done without Thatcher for another 10 days to keep 3 catchers for September? After reading about it on padres.com, it seems like it was mostly for the 40 man roster spot.
Weird game tonight. Cassel got completely shelled the first three innings, but only gave up one run. He then pitched pretty well for the fourth, fifth, and sixth, but gave up a couple runs because Blum cannot play second and because of a single on a grounder to the pitcher and a bloop over shortstop. And then Wells didn’t give up anything hit hard in the first except for Adrian’s grounder and gave up three, but then was getting hit very hard the rest of the game.
What the heck was the double steal in the first inning? That was a horrible call by whoever decided to do that.
September 1, 2007 at 12:30 am
re 25: I often deliberately write my blog about a game I’ve attended before I come to check on DS. the reason is because I want to capture MY opinions, not parrot those here.
I consider this a large compliment to the DS faithful. Just sayin’, take it as you will…
September 1, 2007 at 12:45 am
Okay, wanted to throw out a hello to Danny… hey, kick your dad off the keyboard anytime, we need to feed the next generation. My 7 year old daughter has a pillow with a pic of Kahlil on it… *sigh* but hey, she loves the Pads. My son wants to be the next Hoffy.
BTW, Trevor just hit a normal late season wall… Wags in NY hit the same one. Hoffy will be fine.
Fun game. It looked like ‘98 with Hoffy coming in the game and the t-shirts going….