IGD: Padres vs Rockies (7 Apr 06)

first pitch: 7:05 p.m., PT
television: Channel 4SD
matchup: Chris Young (12-7, 4.26 ERA) vs Josh Fogg (6-11, 5.05)
previews: Padres.com | SI.com | ESPN.com

Did you know that Miguel Ojeda is the Rockies’ backup catcher? And Wiki Gonzalez plays for the Nationals? Gary Bennett is in St. Louis. Ben Davis and Wil Nieves are in the Yankees system. Mike Rivera is with the Brewers.

Geez, I think we’ve hit a new low here. TGIF.

65 Comments

  1. Ryguy
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 6:20 pm | Permalink

    Lineups
    Roberts CF
    Young LF
    Giles RF
    Piazza C
    Ad Gonzalez 1B
    Greene SS
    Castilla 3B
    Barfield 2B
    C Young P

    Rocks
    Sullivan CF
    Barmes SS
    Helton 1B
    Atkins 3B
    Marrero LF
    Hawpe RF
    Smith 2B (Jason Smith)
    Adroin C
    Fogg P

    1. Didn’t the Padres try to sign Fogg this offseason
    2. Why does Boch insist the LF-er hit 2nd so far.
    3. I’m suggesting Barfield hit 2nd, he did it a few times in spring training (* until Cameron comes back)
    4. Gagne had surgery for a nerve in his elbow (effecting his forearm).. will be out at least 2 months
    5. Klesko is rumored to be leaning toward surgery which would take 2-3 months out of his year.

    Boch just said Woody Williams is his next starter.. we will see if Woody can EARN a starting job.

  2. Ryguy
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 7:05 pm | Permalink

    I’m on MLB.tv and getting the Ch4 SD broadcast without muted mics.. it’s classic. Matt and Mark are a funny team.

  3. Posted April 7, 2006 at 7:14 pm | Permalink

    My guess is that Boch doesn’t want to disrupt the rest of the lineup every day or so.

  4. Posted April 7, 2006 at 7:32 pm | Permalink

    Just when I was going to compliment Young on his fine first inning.

  5. Ryguy
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 7:43 pm | Permalink

    Yeah he did throw well in the first.. in the second, uhhh not so much. is it me or is Young just throwing fastballs (yeah he’s mixed in a few curves but he’s hanging a lot of his stuff)

  6. Posted April 7, 2006 at 7:44 pm | Permalink

    Well, he just made up for it. That ball was crushed.

  7. Ryguy
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 7:44 pm | Permalink

    help himself out…

    by the way, I’d never want to post up against Chris Young.

  8. Ryguy
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 7:45 pm | Permalink

    he can swing it a little.. wasn’t that his first ML hit? RBI double , not bad.

  9. Ryguy
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 7:52 pm | Permalink

    Just to show how much attention Fogg is paying to Roberts I’ll show the mlb gameday

    Pickoff Attempt 1B
    Pitch 1 – Called Strike
    Pickoff Attempt 1B
    Pitch 2 – Ball
    Pickoff Attempt 1B
    Pitch 3 – Called Strike
    Pickoff Attempt 1B
    Pitch 4 – Ball
    Pickoff Attempt 1B
    Pitch 5 – Ball
    Pitch 6 – Foul (Runner Going)
    Pitch 7 – In play, out(s) recorded
    Eric Young flies out to right fielder Brad Hawpe.

    ___
    Pitch counts

    Fogg 44
    Young 45

  10. clyde
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 7:52 pm | Permalink

    Clyde just picked up MLB.TV. Seems to be a good value. Watching Chris Young run is pretty comical—but this is coming from a tiny fellow.

    On a graver note, Why has Greene seemingly become a very feeble hacker?

  11. Ryguy
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 7:56 pm | Permalink

    Greene will get into a groove clyde. I hope your getting the Padres feed on mlb.tv

  12. clyde
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 8:00 pm | Permalink

    I am indeed. I’m just worried about Greene’s seemingly eroding plate discipline. He has a very solid game otherwise.

    Young looks decent so far.

  13. Ryguy
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 8:03 pm | Permalink

    his plate discipline eroded down the stretch but he still slugged well (Washington GRand slam for one) … but I’ve said this before.. Greene has to draw a walk rate similar to his rookie year if he’s going to take the next step.. his walks regressed last year and those walks will boost up his obp and eventually lead to more power. Jamesian predictions and Baseball prospectus say greene will hit the 20+ homer category: I agree he will but I’m not sure it will be this year.

  14. Posted April 7, 2006 at 8:05 pm | Permalink

    Did you see Gonzalez turn on that inside pitch? He’s got a little more power than I expected. Too bad it was foul.

  15. clyde
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 8:13 pm | Permalink

    That was an impressive blast by A-Go, but lest we forget, You spell Josh Fogg with R-E-P-L-A-C-E-M-E-N-T L-E-V-E-L.

    Still, nice to see. Part of me wants to see Gonzalez Pipp Klesko. I’ve had a difficult “relationsionship” with Klesko as a Padres fan. When, the Pads first acquired him, I hated him, grew to grudingly like him, and now I wish they find a way to ship him off. Poor guy.

  16. Ryguy
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 8:14 pm | Permalink

    Young used the change.. has struck out 6.. nice.

    Gonzalez has some pop.. I think the Padres will let him play to his potential Geoff. Some projected him as a Doug Mientkiewicz type (I believe that’s spelled right) but I think he’s going to hit for some more pop.

  17. Ryguy
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 8:19 pm | Permalink

    I think an informal poll would show we all want Gonzalez over Klesko.

  18. Posted April 7, 2006 at 8:21 pm | Permalink

    Only if he’s going to hit close to as well as Klesko.

  19. Ryguy
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 8:30 pm | Permalink

    Was Giles out there? the tag looked a little high.

  20. Mark O
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 8:32 pm | Permalink

    Looked out on my tv….

  21. Ryguy
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 8:34 pm | Permalink

    k well I’m on mlb.tv on my bad school server so it looked like the tag was made a little high.

  22. Ryguy
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 8:35 pm | Permalink

    quick hook?

  23. Posted April 7, 2006 at 8:43 pm | Permalink

    Damn, Hensley doesn’t have it tonight.

  24. Ryguy
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 8:48 pm | Permalink

    I still think that was a quick hook for Chris Young. at the first sight of real trouble, Boch pulls him. the wheels could come off here but Clay’s gotta locate better.

    Clay hung pitches, don’t shame the Padre fans Matt. c’mon. anyone who gives up double double single single to open after a great year last year is dissapointing

  25. Ryguy
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 8:50 pm | Permalink

    rally time #1 of 4

  26. hank
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 8:53 pm | Permalink

    Is Bochy iin “crisis management” mode already? Its only April for petesake!

  27. Ryguy
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 8:59 pm | Permalink

    Bochy always makes some weird decisions. I guess he just wanted to get some of them out of his system.. not gonna lie, I would have let Young try and finish six so I can get it to Hensley-Linebrink Hoffman.. but that might not have worked out either.

  28. Posted April 7, 2006 at 9:00 pm | Permalink

    Booing Hensley is weak.

  29. Ryguy
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 9:03 pm | Permalink

    Fogg going longer than Young is weak too

  30. hank
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 9:05 pm | Permalink

    Bochy seems to me to be managing like he might get fired by June if he cant win. The other night he was in Panic mode also.

  31. Ryguy
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 9:06 pm | Permalink

    No way. with that extension last May/June.. Kevin Towers would have to go first before Boch

  32. Mark O
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 9:10 pm | Permalink

    I don’t see how booing Hensley is weak with the hanging hit me pitches he was throwing. The guy comes in and gives up 5 straight hits and 3 runs deserves to be booed.

  33. Mark O
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 9:13 pm | Permalink

    I still don’t understand the choice to pinch hit for Roberts here..

  34. Ryguy
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 9:15 pm | Permalink

    do you understand it now?

  35. clyde
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 9:15 pm | Permalink

    Ray King is terrible.

    They should have sent Terrmel.

  36. Mark O
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 9:15 pm | Permalink

    I mean..of course you pinch hit for Roberts in this situation… :-)

  37. Ryguy
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 9:17 pm | Permalink

    TAKE on 3-1 YOUNG TAKE!!!!

  38. Ryguy
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 9:18 pm | Permalink

    clyde, they could have sent terrmell but even if he scores you still need a hit to tie it.

    Young should have taken on 3-1 and not tried to play hero cause he clearly is not the man when it comes to coming through with the big hit.

  39. Ryguy
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 9:21 pm | Permalink

    Bochy is like a deer in headlights right now. I’m not sure he knows what to do .. but Padre fans.. welcome back Embree!

  40. Posted April 7, 2006 at 9:22 pm | Permalink

    Young shouldn’t be starting for a Major League team.

  41. Posted April 7, 2006 at 9:23 pm | Permalink

    “Young should have taken on 3-1 and not tried to play hero cause he clearly is not the man when it comes to coming through with the big hit.”

    That’s not because he’s a choker, though. It’s because he’s a crappy hitter.

  42. Mark O
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 9:24 pm | Permalink

    This has turned into a truly crappy game.. :-(

  43. Ryguy
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 9:25 pm | Permalink

    yea richard I agree with you

    he shouldn’t be in the lineup..

    and IF he is.. he should be hitting 8th.. that’s my whole deal with the why does the LFer have to hit 2nd when he’s not one of the best hitters?

  44. clyde
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 9:26 pm | Permalink

    Isn’t Petco supposed to be a pitcher’s park? Why do the Rockies look like the 1927 Yankees?

    Ryguy,

    I can see your point with Young taking, but he hits lefties at a good clip. Terrmel runs fairly well….I think you risk it.

  45. Posted April 7, 2006 at 9:28 pm | Permalink

    If we’re going to get into where a guy bats, DR shouldn’t be hitting leadoff.

  46. Ryguy
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 9:28 pm | Permalink

    but young is not a better hitter than giles…

  47. Posted April 7, 2006 at 9:31 pm | Permalink

    I thought we already agreed Young shouldn’t have been in the lineup.

  48. Ryguy
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 9:33 pm | Permalink

    i agree with you richard

  49. Ryguy
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 9:35 pm | Permalink

    you think ben johnson is getting X-nady-ed? (X-nady-ed v. to be parked on the bench by Bruce Bochy for no good reason except that you’re young talent when he can plop some 37 year old who can’t play the outfield)

  50. Posted April 7, 2006 at 9:35 pm | Permalink

    We really should’ve gotten to Fogg when we had the chance. On the bright side, Embree’s fastball was running 94-97 mph.

  51. Ryguy
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 9:36 pm | Permalink

    2nd to last rally time.

  52. clyde
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 9:37 pm | Permalink

    I like EY. Bochy will never play the kids anyway. That’s probably a discussion for another time. :P

  53. Ryguy
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 9:38 pm | Permalink

    Geoff, for some reason Padre hitters decide to not work the count in their 3rd at bats.. I think they just like to put it in play to the infielders hoping they make errors, but they don’t. so whoops.

  54. Posted April 7, 2006 at 9:38 pm | Permalink

    EY is lousy. If he insists on playing a guy who isn’t young, go with Sledge.

  55. Ryguy
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 9:38 pm | Permalink

    Bochy will eventually be made to play the kids Clyde.. or lose his job.

  56. Posted April 7, 2006 at 9:39 pm | Permalink

    I’d play Sledge over DR when Cameron gets back, actually.

  57. Ryguy
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 9:39 pm | Permalink

    The chicks dig the purple glove, right Jose Mesa?

  58. clyde
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 9:39 pm | Permalink

    Wow, Fogg and Mesa. I’d think you could put up about 12 runs on these palookas.

  59. clyde
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 9:43 pm | Permalink

    Joe Table. That still makes me laugh. hehe.

  60. Ryguy
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 9:45 pm | Permalink

    darn.. Khalil Greene, Rockie Killer, will have to show up tomorrow night.

  61. Posted April 7, 2006 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    Khalil has hit a couple of balls real hard tonight. Unfortunately one was foul and one was right at Helton.

    Also, I’m really looking forward to seeing Cameron in center. That ball Sullivan hit to lead off the 9th should have been caught.

  62. Ryguy
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 9:54 pm | Permalink

    Alright.. I’m ruling out a Padre comeback.. but if I wake up and realize they won, I’ll be ecstatic. .. I could make some cruel comments now but I’ll refrain.. I gotta be up by 7ET, 4PT.. peace guys.. and I really hope that

    — PLEASE DO NOT HIT Sledge (Mr. 4th OFer) or Young (Mr. Utility guy) second.
    — yea Geoff I agree.. Cameron will make a big difference when he’s here especially with his defense, which I think we all know we need over an Eric Young- Dave Roberts 2/3 of outfield.
    — this offense looked lazy after the 3rd inning, they thought 4 might be enough but it obviously is not.. these guys gotta try and score more.. there were some chances.

    — Brazeltons’ start should be interesting
    — Maybe we’ll see Trevor Time tomorrow.

  63. Posted April 8, 2006 at 2:20 am | Permalink

    “PLEASE DO NOT HIT Sledge (Mr. 4th OFer) or Young (Mr. Utility guy) second.”

    Sledge is most likely the third best OFer on the team.

  64. Ryguy
    Posted April 8, 2006 at 8:36 am | Permalink

    “Sledge is most likely the third best OFer on the team.”

    We talking with or without Cameron. Young just looks lost sometimes in the outfield.

    I know this might, or never will, happen because of some quirky management but EY needs to go either via trade or release because all he’s doing is stunting Ben Johnson/Tremmel Sledge’s growth.

  65. dprat
    Posted April 8, 2006 at 11:36 am | Permalink

    Was at the game last night. My first look at the ‘06 Padres other than about a half dozen PAs on TV earlier this week.

    Said before that if the over/under for the year is 80, I’d take the under. Now I’m thinking I’ll take the under if the line is 75. I left the park trying to cling to a few scraps… Piazza, AGon, Greene hit a few balls hard to little effect, C Young, Chan Ho, and Embree at least had moments. Then there was comedy… Ray King’s PA against Embree.

    But there was a ton of ugliness… weak PAs, struggling against Fogg, Dejean, & Mesa to hit anything out of the infield, pitching that shrunk the Petco fences to beer league distances, bad outfield defense (despite the one nice DR diving grab), bad lineup, worse in-game management. And, for all the talk about Castilla’s great glove, any player with only mediocre speed should consider dropping a bunt down his way.

    OK, I got that out. All will be healed when they win tonight. Go Padres!