IGD: Padres vs Mets (9 Aug 2005)

first pitch: 7:05 p.m., PT
television: Channel 4
matchup: Chan Ho Park (8-5, 5.84 ERA) vs Pedro Martinez (12-3, 2.81 ERA)
preview: Padres.com

As those of you who caught the inaugural edition of Ducksnorts Radio will know, the Mets come to town with a better record than the Padres. Actually, many others of you will know that as well, but humor me.

(And if you haven’t listened to the podcast yet, I encourage you to do so. It’s very much a work in progress, but I’ve gotten some good feedback, and I’ll be doing more of these in the future. Topic and music suggestions are always welcome.)

I also compared the Park/Martinez matchup to the Darrell May/Johan Santana showdown of a couple months ago. But this is even more of a mismatch than that was. May’s ERA (5.20) entering the June 19 contest at Minnesota was only 56% higher than Santana’s (3.32).

Park’s checks in around 108% higher than Pedro’s. I don’t know how valid it is to compare two pitchers ERAs in this manner, but I do know that it’s valid enough to tell me I don’t like the Padres’ chances tonight.

Head-to-Head Matchups
  AB BA OBP SLG
Park vs current Mets 83 .337 .456 .651
Martinez vs current Padres 119 .269 .315 .521

You don’t want me to break down the individual hitters against Park. Suffice to say, anyone who has faced him much has had terrific success. But you probably figured that out from the .314 ISO.

How good is a .314 ISO? Manny Ramirez has a .313 ISO this year, good for fourth out of the 158 qualifiers in the big leagues. Would it be fair to say Park turns hitters into Ramirez? Add 55 points to Manny’s BA, 80 points to his OBP, and 70 points to his SLG, and it would.

On the other side, Ryan Klesko (.345/.406/.828 in 29 AB) has four of the Pads’ seven homers against Pedro. Here’s hoping Ryno’s back is good enough to get him in the lineup. Eric Young (.273/.429/.818 in 11 AB) also has done well against Martinez.

So the good news is that Martinez hasn’t dominated this lineup. The bad news, of course, is that he doesn’t need to dominate. He just needs to show up at the ballpark.

Bottom line? You never concede a game before it starts, but I’m looking for baby steps here. If Park pitches better than he did in his Padres debut, I’ll be happy. Well, maybe “happy” is too strong a word, but you get the idea.

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Okay, get out to the game tonight. Or hang out here and chat. Listen to the podcast. Aw, heck; do whatever you want to do. Just be sure to have fun doing it. Go Pads!

86 Comments

  1. Lance
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 3:01 pm | Permalink

    I’ll be at the game tonight, watching a matchup of a pitcher the Dodgers regret letting go against a pitcher the Dodgers are damned glad to have let go.

  2. Posted August 9, 2005 at 4:03 pm | Permalink

    Right on, Lance. We’ll be expecting the full report over at Friar Faithful. :-)

  3. Posted August 9, 2005 at 6:46 pm | Permalink

    Fick gets the start at 1B. Bochy has chosen Olivo over Nady tonight. That’ll teach X ever to hit a homer again.

  4. Kevin
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 6:59 pm | Permalink

    LOS ANGELES — Gene Mauch, “the little general” who won 1,901 games as a manager but became infamous for historic losses, died Monday. He was 79.

    “If it’s true you learn from adversity, then I must be the smartest SOB in the world,” he once said.

    Mauch, who died after a long battle with cancer, isn’t suffering anymore.

    Every double switch and sacrifice bunt is a tribute to Mauch. If you want to make this a drinking game, feel free.

  5. Posted August 9, 2005 at 7:11 pm | Permalink

    Nice pitch by Park on the inside corner to get Beltran looking to end the first. Channel 4 had Park’s fastball at 89-94 that inning.

  6. hank
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 7:13 pm | Permalink

    Park actually got out of the first inning, unscathed. Those of you that get to watch, is his stuff as good as the broadcast team is making out? Or is Lietner simply spouting the party platform?

  7. Posted August 9, 2005 at 7:15 pm | Permalink

    Park’s stuff looks better than I’d expected.

    Serious afterburners there for DR. Nice job to get things started for the Pads.

  8. Kevin
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 7:15 pm | Permalink

    MLBtv is having trouble with the Padres game. By that, I mean, I can’t get it.

  9. Posted August 9, 2005 at 7:16 pm | Permalink

    And Roberts somehow manages not to score on a grounder behind first base. Bad baserunning.

  10. Kevin
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 7:16 pm | Permalink

    Did he bunt to get on?

  11. Posted August 9, 2005 at 7:18 pm | Permalink

    Nope. Triple off Cameron’s glove in the RF corner.

  12. Kevin
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 7:19 pm | Permalink

    During Roberts’ slump, I was thinking, should he just try to bunt for a hit two or three times a game like Alan Wiggins used to?

  13. Posted August 9, 2005 at 7:21 pm | Permalink

    Klesko is battling.

  14. Posted August 9, 2005 at 7:23 pm | Permalink

    Klesko strikes out on the 11th pitch of the at-bat, after falling behind 0-2. Fouled off 7 pitches.

    Pads don’t score thanks to Roberts’ poor baserunning.

  15. Kevin
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 7:24 pm | Permalink

    What happened with Roberts?

  16. hank
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 7:25 pm | Permalink

    on the broadcast they speculated that roberts would have scored if he just kept on running, but at the same time they were talking about offerman pumping to throw home twice before going tofirst to get the out. What actually happened?

  17. Posted August 9, 2005 at 7:29 pm | Permalink

    Great pitch by Park to end the inning. Full-count breaking ball freezes Piazza.

  18. Posted August 9, 2005 at 7:30 pm | Permalink

    Infield was back. Offerman was conceding the run but looked up and noticed that Roberts had hesitated. They played a little cat-and-mouse, and Roberts retreated to third as Offerman stepped on the bag. Indecision.

  19. hank
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 7:31 pm | Permalink

    Dang him, he is teasing me. I am starting to like him in spite of myself. However, I keep waiting to wake up to reality any second.

  20. Kevin
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 7:33 pm | Permalink

    I’m watching Felix Hernandez pitch for the Mariners. Kid’s got some serious shit.

  21. hank
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 7:34 pm | Permalink

    dang, that is what I thought. Randa did just what you need to do with runner on third and no outs. put the ball in play, on the ground and to the right side. geeeesh. we are gonna miss that run.

    we miss it already..

  22. Posted August 9, 2005 at 7:37 pm | Permalink

    Whew, that was a horrible pitch by Pedro. Hung one and Khalil tattooed it.

  23. hank
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 7:38 pm | Permalink

    Khalil seems to be finding his stroke. He couldn’t have picked a better time thats for sure.

  24. Posted August 9, 2005 at 7:42 pm | Permalink

    Oh man, that was a beautiful DP. Loretta to the right, on his knees. Had a little trouble getting the ball out of his glove, flipped to Khalil, who hung in nicely and made a strong throw. I really missed watching those two.

  25. Posted August 9, 2005 at 7:46 pm | Permalink

    Park just crushed one down the line in left. Shoulda been a double, but he missed first base. It’s been a while since he’s been on the bases, I guess.

  26. Kevin
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 7:48 pm | Permalink

    Wiki Gonzalez is catching for the Mariners.

  27. Posted August 9, 2005 at 7:50 pm | Permalink

    Randa drives in Park. Pedro doesn’t have his best stuff. He’s leaving pitches out over the plate.

  28. Posted August 9, 2005 at 7:50 pm | Permalink

    Klesko drives in Randa with a ground rule double just inside the first base line. That’s 3-0. Nice.

  29. Posted August 9, 2005 at 7:54 pm | Permalink

    Pedro was ahead of Fick 1-2 and floated a change up that did nothing. Base knock to right scores Klesko.

  30. Kevin
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 7:59 pm | Permalink

    Suggested chant: Who’s/your/Pad/re?

  31. Posted August 9, 2005 at 8:02 pm | Permalink

    Park’s fastball has good action on it. He’s throwing it inside to lefties and letting it run back over the corner. I don’t know if this is a fluke or what but he’s looking real good so far tonight.

  32. Kevin
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 8:03 pm | Permalink

    Park is batting .429.

  33. Brian G.
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 8:04 pm | Permalink

    That ball is way out in Shea. Welcome to the west coast, Chan Ho.

  34. Kevin
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 8:07 pm | Permalink

    Now he’s down to .375.

  35. Posted August 9, 2005 at 8:13 pm | Permalink

    Double for Floyd down the first base line. Fick should have caught it.

  36. Posted August 9, 2005 at 8:18 pm | Permalink

    Park is dealing. Runners on first and second, no out, he gets into Piazza’s kitchen for a weak 4-6-3 DP then goes up the ladder to punch out Cameron swinging.

  37. Posted August 9, 2005 at 8:22 pm | Permalink

    Giles goes yard. Fick puts one to the wall in dead center. Pedro has absolutely nothing. Honestly, this is what I expected out of Park, not Pedro.

  38. Posted August 9, 2005 at 8:25 pm | Permalink

    Is it me or do Pedro A. and Park have stuff? I think back to May and that other pitcher that we moved to the yanks, they had no stuff. But these two guys, apparently junk pile guys, have fastballs in the 90s. Maybe petco is proving to be beneficial for pitchers toward the end of their careers.

    Oh, Giles just hit a homer.

    Pedro M overlooked the PAdres tonight.

  39. Kevin
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 8:27 pm | Permalink

    This is like Bizarro world.

  40. Posted August 9, 2005 at 8:31 pm | Permalink

    Park hung an 0-2 breaking ball to Cairo. Shutout gone. So is Pedro, lifted for a pinch hitter.

  41. Posted August 9, 2005 at 8:32 pm | Permalink

    It’s not just you, Mike. I’m amazed at how much movement Park has on his pitches. I really expected to see another Izzy Valdez.

  42. Kevin
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

    Now I have the game. Only five innings too late.

  43. Kevin
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 8:40 pm | Permalink

    Well, it’s not a “quality start,” but I’ll take it.

  44. Kevin
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 8:40 pm | Permalink

    The important question: Are we double-switching?

  45. Posted August 9, 2005 at 8:40 pm | Permalink

    Park still had the stuff but couldn’t put guys away here in the sixth. He leaves the game with a 5-2 lead and eight strikeouts. Color me impressed.

    Enter Linebrink.

  46. Kevin
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 8:41 pm | Permalink

    The Mets broadcasters were saying he was trying to shake off the catcher and get cute.

  47. Kevin
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 8:42 pm | Permalink

    Yes, we have a double switch. Sweeney at first. Long live Mauch!

  48. Kevin
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 8:43 pm | Permalink

    Hey, Geoff, did you ever use baseballlibrary.com? It seems to be gone now.

  49. Posted August 9, 2005 at 8:45 pm | Permalink

    He was also slowing way down. Looked like he was getting a bit tired.

    Linebrink freezes Wright with a fastball on the outside corner at the knees. Geez, he throws hard.

  50. Posted August 9, 2005 at 8:45 pm | Permalink

    Kevin, I think it’s still there:

    http://www.baseballlibrary.com/baseballlibrary/

  51. Posted August 9, 2005 at 8:48 pm | Permalink

    Final lines:

    Martinez: 5 IP, 9 H, 5 ER, 0 BB, 4 K, 2 HR
    Park: 5.2, 5, 2, 1, 8, 0

    Crazy.

  52. Posted August 9, 2005 at 8:50 pm | Permalink

    Maybe the new car smell hasn’t worn off, but I think we stole Olivo from the Mariners. This guy looks like a much better hitter than advertised.

  53. Kevin
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 8:51 pm | Permalink

    Olivio gets an RBI hit. All the starters have hits.

  54. Kevin
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 8:52 pm | Permalink

    He sent the catcher. Mauch wouldn’t have done that.

  55. Brian G.
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 8:52 pm | Permalink

    Love that Padre baserunning!

  56. Nick
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 8:53 pm | Permalink

    I was just about to say that I really like Olivo…then he had to go and do that. What’s up with this team’s baserunning

  57. Kevin
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 8:53 pm | Permalink

    Now all position players have a hit. Should have knocked in Olvio if Bochy wouldn’t have sent him.

  58. Kevin
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 8:55 pm | Permalink

    They are not smart baserunners, and Bochy compounds it by thinking he has the 1985 Cardinals.

  59. Kevin
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 8:58 pm | Permalink

    Geoff, can you go to any page off the front of that site? I am having trouble doing that.

  60. Posted August 9, 2005 at 9:03 pm | Permalink

    Yes, Pedro A, Park, and Oliveo look pretty good. I’m wondering if that cool bay air is lousy for hitters but great for pitchers because it adds a tackiness to the ball that gives them more grip.

    Anybody know how Nevin is doing?

    Linbrink looks like a chimunck with those cheeks.

    Also, separated at birth:
    Joe Randa and Joe Montana

  61. Nick
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 9:04 pm | Permalink

    Kevin, I tried to load it and this is the error message I got:

    BaseballLibrary.com Site Work

    The page you were directed to was not found, due to brief but unavoidable site maintenance as we move servers.
    Thank you for your patience.

    They must be upgrading, like how Met fans wish they could upgrade Offerman.

  62. Kevin
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 9:07 pm | Permalink

    Nevin still stinks. I got an error message also, a different one, but an error message just the same.

  63. Posted August 9, 2005 at 9:09 pm | Permalink

    Damn, Sweeney cannot make that throw to second. Great play by Khalil to get one the lead runner.

  64. Posted August 9, 2005 at 9:10 pm | Permalink

    I can’t get to any other pages at Baseball Library either.

    Hammond is off DL and warming up.

  65. Posted August 9, 2005 at 9:11 pm | Permalink

    Also, I don’t think Bochy sent Olivo. Those two were having a little “chat” when Olivo got back to the dugout.

  66. Kevin
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 9:13 pm | Permalink

    Good. I hope the chat was something like, “Catchers don’t run.”

  67. Kevin
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 9:13 pm | Permalink

    Hammond is one of my favorite players, but what does he do to warm up — make sure his jersey is tucked in?

  68. Nick
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 9:16 pm | Permalink

    Wow

  69. Posted August 9, 2005 at 9:17 pm | Permalink

    Holy crap, Giles just got robbed on an amazing play by David Wright. Dove for a pop fly over his head and caught it with the bare hand. Wowza!

  70. Nick
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 9:17 pm | Permalink

    Maybe I’m biased, but the word that comes to mind is “Khalil-esque”

  71. Brian G.
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 9:17 pm | Permalink

    Nevin update: 10 for 37 (.270), 1 HR, 3 RBIs, 8Ks, seven game hit streak.

  72. Kevin
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 9:24 pm | Permalink

    Yeah, hate to hate on Nevin, but not that impressive in a hitters’ park.

  73. Kevin
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 9:26 pm | Permalink

    Nady in as part of the double switch

  74. Kevin
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 9:38 pm | Permalink

    The Mets broadcasters are talking about how Bochy thinks Olivio is fast, faster than Benito Santiago back in the day.

  75. Posted August 9, 2005 at 9:40 pm | Permalink

    They’re intentionally walking Roberts to load the bases for Randa. I’m calling slam.

  76. Kevin
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 9:41 pm | Permalink

    I’m thinking RBI/fielder’s choice.

  77. Posted August 9, 2005 at 9:42 pm | Permalink

    So much for the slam. Nice job by Roberts to disrupt the turn at second.

  78. Posted August 9, 2005 at 9:44 pm | Permalink

    Interesting tidbit from the TV guys: Mark Loretta was the first batter Chan Ho Park faced as a pro in North America. Double-A Texas League, San Antonio vs El Paso.

  79. Posted August 9, 2005 at 9:47 pm | Permalink

    Arizona and SF have lost, LA is down 5-2 in the 8th.

  80. Kevin
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    Padres RHP Adam Eaton was put back on the disabled list so he can go down to the minor leagues and make at least three starts. Eaton (9-2, 3.76 ERA) was on the DL from June 16 through July 31 with a strained tendon in his right middle finger. He pitched out of the bullpen on the recently completed road trip, throwing two innings in two appearances, but that arrangement didn’t work out as intended. … Taking Eaton’s roster spot was left-handed reliever Chris Hammond (5-1, 2.96 ERA), who had been on the DL since July 20 with a strained neck.

  81. Posted August 9, 2005 at 9:51 pm | Permalink

    Game over. Park gets the win. Pads are 4 up on the Snakes.

  82. Kevin
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 9:52 pm | Permalink

    That will do it. The Padres have beaten Johan Santana and Pedro Martinez with a pair of nobodys. The Padres have also lost to some of the worst pitchers in the game. Go figure.

  83. Posted August 9, 2005 at 9:55 pm | Permalink

    Park on postgame show. Says he is very happy to be back in the NL. Too much adrenaline in first start at Pittsburgh. Says he knew the Mets hitters better than the Pirates hitters. Felt like his command was off in his Padres debut because he’d had so much time off between starts.

  84. hank
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 9:58 pm | Permalink

    impressive outing by Park. I didnt think he had one of those starts left in him. If he has a couple of more like that left in the tank, then the Nevin deal might not be so bad after all, considering that Eaton is still unable to start.

    I am not changing my opinion YET, mind you..but I am wavering a little.

    btw, Kevin, Nevin started his American league tour with a fine 0-8 and 3 k’s..since then he has been doing pretty well. Hitting the ball long to right center again.

  85. Kevin
    Posted August 9, 2005 at 10:04 pm | Permalink

    You’re right, about the time they got back home.

  86. Posted August 9, 2005 at 10:40 pm | Permalink

    I just saw David Wright’s “Kevin Mitchell” catch. Wow.