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#49@Kevin: yeah, I simply cannot leave that crappy stadium out of my analysis….or Andres Thomas.
#50@JP: I am one of the Hoffman faithful. However dot com, I think he should hang up the cleats after this season. And I also believe that he deserves a statue out there next to Tony’s. I will happily buy a brick to support that.
#39@Schlom: Thats why saves is a joke.
#51@JP: I’m a huge Hoffman guy, but he is definitely having a bad season.
Has anything changed? No. Bases loaded and no runs scored. If I were a religious person, I would ask for penance for all of my foul language. Scince I’m not, I’ll just say that I am f*cking discusted so far.
Sorry for all the spelling errors. Typing too fast and pissed off.
#42@Turbine Dude: Thats classic!
OT: Can someone tell me what the ‘RAK’ meant on the ’84 uniforms?
Ray Kroc
#58@Turbine Dude: I’ve only been in SD since ’88.
#59@Zagz: Thank you.
Must be a blow to Jake’s ego to realize he’s being outpitched by Barry Zito.
#58@Turbine Dude: The owner died that year.
#47@Turbine Dude: It’s 3:45PM on Sunday now – we’re five hours behind the next day (or 19 hours ahead, if you don’t want to carry the day…
And finally the video highlight. Who says speed doesn’t help win games?
#63@Kevin: Never saw his team win a pennant.
#63@Kevin: I didn’t put two and two together. My bad.
I still can’t believe how much Barry Zito looks like Geoff Young…
Has anyone crunched the numbers, to see if this team has the chance to have the worst offense in Padres history..
I’ve been watching the team since I was probably 5 years old and I don’t remember one this bad.
Hensley gives up a hit to Barry Zito…
Has anyone crunched the numbers, to see if this team has the chance to have the worst offense in Padres history..
I’ve been watching the team since I was probably 5 years old and I don’t remember one this bad.
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and they are all coming back next season too
Up north, Ramirez hit a two-run home run in the first and the Dogs are leading the DBacks 4-1 in the bottom of the 7th…
Could this be the low point of the season? This is the first time all season that Zito has started off with 7 innings scoreless (his previous high was 6.2 innings at the Indians on June 25th). Amazingly he’s only had 4 starts this season where he’s given up 2 runs or less (in 21 starts). So of course he is scoreless into the 8th against the Padres.
Once again, Adrian has to save the team…
#54@Kevin: We could be splitting hairs but I would argue that these numbers are not good but not bad either : Hoffmans’s WHIP is 1.2 and his BAA is .252, not to mention that he has only walked 7 guys all year and has more K’s than innings pitched. We expect more from Hoffman, yes but he can still be effective.
#69@wrveres: You can go to this page and go back through the years and figure it out. It’s hard to just compare the Padres runs scored vs. the league average and use that as the final stat because of the run suppression of both Petco and Qualcomm (for example they are scoring runs at 84% of the league average but are at 95 in OPS+).
http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/NL_2008.shtml
#74@Schlom: OPS+ is probably the best way of doing it. In 2001 the Padres led the league in scoring on the road (I’ll bet nobody really knew that), only the Giants (5.52) and the Astros (5.02) scored more then 5 runs a game on the road, the Padres were at 5.70 (they were next to last at home, ahead of only the Mets). Their OPS+ that season was just 103 while they were 3.39% better in scoring runs overall.
In 1997 they were 2nd in runs scored to the Rockies. In 1993 they had a worse OPS+ then this year (92 vs. 95).
#74@Schlom: Good point and remember that San Diego Stadium 1969-1982 had a that huge 18 foot wall and which of course made it a total pitchers park.
1969 Padres had a OBP of .289 ….OUCH !
I have to go watch a hockey game, so here’s my prediction for the bottom of the ninth:
Luis Rodriguez will hit a walk-off grand slam after Kouz’s single, Headley’s double and an intentional walk Bard to load the bases…
#74@Schlom: i was just responding to 67. I know it is not the worst.
I never realized that Barry Zito was such a good pitcher.
#78@wrveres: Yeah, I clicked on the wrong person (since the posts were almost identical). Just going back to 1993, it’s surprising how good the Padres offense was. I’ll bet almost no one realizes that their offense has almost always been better then their pitching over the past 15 years or so.
#71@Schlom: Deffinately the low point of the season..
Why do I keep watching this team?
Speaking of offensive performances : How dismal is Kouzmanoff’s total approach to hitting be when after 500 PA’s he will end up with only 20 or so walks.
You would think he would get 30 or 40 just by chance.
Was that the worst game of the season? Getting shut out by crappy Barry Zito has to be on the short list, doesn’t it?
#83@Schlom: You see, they are not intentionally trying to tank. They are trying but are still tanking…which may be worse.
Good news on the farm – Portland’s Wade Leblanc was masterful tonight, going 7 allowing 2 hits and striking out 11.
What were the Vegas odds in March that the Padres would lose 100 games ? With only 51 games left, the Padres are on pace to go 61-101. Unbelievable
#73@JP: Hi JP, the problem I have with WHIP is that it treats a Walk the same as a HR or Double. Trevor has very very high Home Run and Double numbers, despite his low Walk numbers.
#84@JP: I don’t care how they do it, as long as they finish with the worst record in baseball. They are currently 1.5 games up on the Nationals and 0.5 on the Mariners. The Khalil injury really helped but it might take 10 starts from Tomko and Estes to clinch it.
#87@charlie don’t surf: Very good point. When they hit him they have hit him hard, high impact, game changing extra base hits
As they say in Texas, “Good night Y’all”.
Thanks to G.Y for the special space to express ourselves. It’s nice to that he has maintained a forum like this –a pure baseball forum with standards so that it doesn’t go down the drain like so many others. Pretty darn ‘high brow’ I would say.
#89@JP: Wagner,Rivera,Hoffman
Hoffman: 976IP, 757H, 149/2b, 27/3b, 89HR, 272BB, 1.054WHIP
Rivera: 1001IP, 789H, 110/2b, 12/3b, 52HR, 243BB, 1.031WHIP
Wagner: 817IP, 552H, 84/2b, 5/3b, 76HR, 269BB, 1.005WHIP
Although their BBs and Hits are similar, Hoffmans 2b, 3b, and HRs are very high.
Wagners HRs and BB are also very high in comparison, despite his very low WHIP
Worst offenses in team history, OPS+
1. 1969 — 81
2. 1974 — 87
3. 1971 — 88
3. 1972 — 88
5. 1975 — 89
11. 2008 — 95
This season is the worst since 1993. The Padres first season over 100 was 1977.
Best offenses in team history, OPS+
1. 2004 — 110
The first year of Petco. You would never convince Nevin or Klesko of this.
2. 1997 — 108
3. 1998 — 107
4. 1996 — 106
5. 2006 — 104
Other than the 1995-98 era, 2004-07 has been the Padres best time for offense.