IGD: Padres vs Tigers (21 Jun 08)
Sat, Jun 21, 2008
by Geoff Young
Padres (32-43) vs Tigers (34-39)
Cha Seung Baek vs Nate Robertson
7:05 p.m. PT
Channel 4SD
AM 1090, FM 105.7, XM 189
MLB, B-R
Padres at Petco Park since the start of the 2007 season:
W-L: 68-52
RS: 471
RA: 426
HR: 109
Opp HR: 75
Clearly the data show that the Padres need to move the fences in a bit. Oh, wait; no they don’t.
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June 21, 2008 at 10:05 am
Yes!!!! Condensed Games are back on mlb.tv!!!!
Just watched the game last night in 15 minutes and it was awesome!
I HATED watching mlb.tv’s stupid, wannabe Sports Center game recaps. They show the final score in about eight places on the page and usually started the recap off with the game winning hit or play. Beyond zero suspense!
June 21, 2008 at 10:56 am
Just watched the condensed game as well.
I would be careful about giving up on Khalil Greene. The guy is so smooth in the field and he will have a better 2nd half offensively. Because of the way he fields, he is alowed a mulligan for one bad 1/2 season at the plate.
Did anyone notice Renteria’s short arming of a ball up the middle that should have been an out and ended up as a basehit ? Would we ever see Greene pull that nonsense ?
How good could the Tigers be if they have to go to Casey Fossum in a high leverage situation in the 7th ?
In my opinion, there is no need for the Pads to run Iguchi back out there when he is ready. The Pads will be faced with a difficult decision when Iguchi is ready. Egon doesn’t have the glove Gooch but though he is 30, I am intrigued by his offensive potential.
June 21, 2008 at 12:45 pm
From yesterday’s game notes in UT …
Padres right fielder Brian Giles was replaced by Paul McAnulty in the ninth inning after tweaking his leg while retreating to second base in the eighth. Manager Bud Black said Giles’ injury didn’t appear serious.
June 21, 2008 at 1:09 pm
A bit of background and status of KK’s back …
http://www3.signonsandiego.com.....-d/?padres
June 21, 2008 at 1:10 pm
FriarJohn’s blog has some good notes about Edgar …
http://padres.mlblogs.com/
Already, Gonzalez has more his than any Padres rookie ever who debuted after his 29th birthday. E-V-E-R.
June 21, 2008 at 2:14 pm
My sister season (fun comparison to keep hope) is the 1988 Padres (83-78) who started much like this club (April & May) and had the same record as the 2008 Pads did after 75 games at 32-43.
http://www.baseball-reference......1988.shtml
Would 83-85 wins be enough this year to win the West ?
June 21, 2008 at 3:03 pm
OT … I admit to a morbid fascination with the Zito watch … I decided to keep him on my roto team this year the day be it became obvious to me that was DONE … so now I’m just kinda rooting for him to get to 20 Ls … perhaps that’s not a good/fun thing to root for … but it is a milestone … and it’s created some drama … check out the latest local (to SF) view …
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/.....11CLBH.DTL
… seems unique / amazing to me …
June 21, 2008 at 3:51 pm
#3@LynchMob: It looked like OG maybe jammed his leg on that play. At least it gave PMac a chance to prove something defensively.
#2@JP:
#5@LynchMob:
I’m really rooting for Egon. The guy put up solid minor league numbers his entire career. Sort of fell through the cracks several times - old for his leagues, playing for organizations that didn’t have any interest in aggressively promoting him. He could be an above-average 2b bat who helps us keep Agon.
June 21, 2008 at 4:30 pm
#8@Tom Waits: Another guy I would like to see get a shot is former Padres farmhand Bobby Scales. Though his numbers are not quite a good as Egon’s, he can hit a bit and can play several positions.
June 21, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Doyers looking to implode in the 11th. Good news for the home team.
Awesome experience last night, 40K+,(IMO) 90% Pads fans. Didn’t expect that after the last road series, fairweather extreme and all. Great drama up to the last play. Mac steppin’ up (I’ll enjoy that crow w/ ball park beer tonite.)
Giles looks to sit tonite giving Magellanulty another chance to proove me wrong, but Huber has returned to wait patiently in the wings for another cup ‘o coffee.
Happy baseball tonite, go Pads! Off to catch the salute to the Negro Leagues. Check in after to read y’alls witticisms.
June 21, 2008 at 4:43 pm
btw, TD( when you check in tonite), yer boy Merideth has some pretty good stuff last night (at least from the left field perspective), enough to make a father proud.
Every time I see him now I pray that he does well, so we don’t have anything to gripe about on the DS.
June 21, 2008 at 6:19 pm
#8@Tom Waits: I still can’t get used to “Egon” - every time I hear it I think of the dude from Ghostbusters and the suspenders.
June 21, 2008 at 6:20 pm
#12@Masticore317: Which I suppose in and of itself is hysterical.
June 21, 2008 at 7:02 pm
Jaff Decker signing official according to DePo’s blog
June 21, 2008 at 7:30 pm
I’m sitting here watching the game and munching on a bag (yes, a bag..not a box) of Cracker Jack and I have yet to find one peanut. I hope that is not a bad omen.
June 21, 2008 at 7:32 pm
Hang a star on Jody for that one!
June 21, 2008 at 7:35 pm
Jody Gerut makes another great catch. Big time thanks to him for filling the hole and playing competitive ball.
I would much rather have Gerut than someone like Trot Nixon or Ryan Langerhans.
June 21, 2008 at 7:36 pm
#11@130tom330: Tom, it’s not polite to taunt an old man.
June 21, 2008 at 7:38 pm
Jerry Coleman: “And Greene slides into 3rd with a stand up triple. Oh Doctor!”
June 21, 2008 at 7:38 pm
Greenie !!!!!
Swinging the bat well now !!!!!!!
June 21, 2008 at 7:41 pm
Barrett earns his keep there!
June 21, 2008 at 7:42 pm
Hey, I found a peanut in my Cracker Jacks. Maybe that was the good luck for the runs. You think?
June 21, 2008 at 7:46 pm
Someone tell Mudcat that Gene Stephenson (father of former Pad Phil Stephenson) is still indeed managing the Wichita State Shockers !
June 21, 2008 at 7:50 pm
#22@Turbine Dude: ifO can believe a cold beer is good luck, you can have your peanuts.
Warm and sunny at the ballpark, Barret just doubled his HR production, Im waiting for a rainbow…
June 21, 2008 at 7:55 pm
#24@130tom3330: Tom, i have a keggerator and just got a fresh barrel today. Maybe that will be good luck. As I type this, the Tigers’ just got a two run homer. Grrrr.
I can’t believe Don Newcomb isn’t in the HOF.
June 21, 2008 at 8:05 pm
Gerut’s numbers to this point are almost identical to his 2005 season in Cleveland. Pretty remarkable considering he really hadn’t played in 2+ years.
June 21, 2008 at 8:07 pm
Baek looks pretty decent tonight. With any luck he would have only given up one run to this point.
June 21, 2008 at 8:21 pm
It’s looking like a good night down on the farm … at AAA, Antonelli with a double and a walk in 3 PAs so far …
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....a_tacaaa_1
June 21, 2008 at 8:22 pm
The biggest/best news down on the farm tonight comes from AA San Antonio … Garrison with 11 Ks in 7 IP (only 1 walk) in 3-1 win …
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....x_mroaax_1
… hmmm, Huffman not in the lineup for this game … he’s been slumping so maybe just a day off …
June 21, 2008 at 8:24 pm
The Storm are at home tonight … up 4-1 early on some miscue’s by Lancaster …
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....a_lesafa_1
June 21, 2008 at 8:26 pm
#26@JP:
His ability was never really the question, it was always about being able to stay healthy.
June 21, 2008 at 8:26 pm
Eugene is getting some lights-out pitching tonight … including 2 innings of relief from recent draftee Anthony Bass … and another 3-hits from Sawyer Carroll …
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....x_boiasx_1
June 21, 2008 at 8:29 pm
Oops, I skip’d LoA Ft Wayne … who were 5-3 losers tonight …
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....x_lanafx_1
… on the bright side, Luis Durango’s slash-stats for tonight were .333/.600/.667 (that’s a double in 3 ABs plus 2 walks
)
June 21, 2008 at 8:31 pm
EGon is looking good so far.
It would be nice to see a BroBI.
June 21, 2008 at 8:31 pm
There’s Edgar making up for the GDP in the first!
June 21, 2008 at 8:37 pm
Baek is pitching well. I’m concerned that with only a one run lead, that the middle relief is going to f*ck this up.
June 21, 2008 at 8:40 pm
PMAC seems to be a lot more comfortable in right field.
June 21, 2008 at 8:43 pm
Renteria’s long out is a blast in many a park. That one scared me.
June 21, 2008 at 8:44 pm
Thru top of 6th …
Pitches-strikes - N Robertson 85-54; C Baek 71-52.
Ground balls-fly balls - N Robertson 7-4; C Baek 2-6.
Batters faced - N Robertson 22; C Baek 20.
… Baek’s line is very nice … 7 Ks and 0 BBs in 6 IP … who’s gonna get those last 9 outs? I s’pose Baek’s good for 3 more …
June 21, 2008 at 8:52 pm
#37@JP:
He definitely does to me too. He has that Klesko like ability to make a generally routine play a little more interesting than it probably should be but he is looking much better the past few nights out there.
June 21, 2008 at 9:05 pm
#39@LynchMob:
Nope.
June 21, 2008 at 9:08 pm
Wow, Hampson really made a bad mistake there.
Slugfest at Petco !
Pads can get more runs against the Bengal bullpen.
June 21, 2008 at 9:22 pm
#28@LynchMob: Venable’s 4-for4 with 2 doubles so far …
June 21, 2008 at 9:23 pm
#30@LynchMob: Canham with HR #4 for the Storm tonight …
June 21, 2008 at 9:29 pm
#43@LynchMob: I’m really impressed with Venable’s season so far. I was skeptical of his bat and he is hitting way more than I ever thought he would.
June 21, 2008 at 9:32 pm
#45@KRS1: He looked good in the couple of games I saw him play during spring training … he’s a good sized kid with an athletic background and pedigree … seems to have a personality that’s easy to root for … but something’s balky with one of his shoulders that’s a major source of concern for me …
June 21, 2008 at 9:33 pm
Adams digs a hole … then gets DP and K to get out of it …
June 21, 2008 at 9:34 pm
KT kept Mike Adams hanging around the fringes of the organization for 2+ years and it looks like it could pay off. Still early, but I see an upside in Adams of a Scott Cassidy (2006).
June 21, 2008 at 9:36 pm
#43@LynchMob: Interesting side note … Jared Wells pitched a clean inning *against* the Beavers tonight … Beavers win 4-2 …
June 21, 2008 at 9:41 pm
Greene actually worked the count. He looks a lot more comfortable at the plate right now.
June 21, 2008 at 9:45 pm
#14@Jonathan S.: Let the hype begin …
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4weJOMO4M8
… power!
June 21, 2008 at 9:52 pm
FJ with some good injury updates …
http://padres.mlblogs.com/arch.....dates.html
Most interesting to me is this about CY …
Pitcher Chris Young will have surgery June 30 to repair some of the damage sustained when he was hit in the face by a line drive. Black said it’s possible Young could pitch again in late July or early August.
… yow, so he’s still well over a month away … ouch … for him *and* the team …
June 21, 2008 at 9:52 pm
Chase has looked sharp tonight.
June 21, 2008 at 9:52 pm
Who PH’s this inning … Clark?
June 21, 2008 at 9:54 pm
#51@LynchMob:
!
Yeah someone posted that right after the draft and the cool thing I noticed is that at the beginning of the video he is swinging wood. He later switches to aluminum but I always wonder how high school kids will take to wood and it looks like Jaff might be ok
June 21, 2008 at 10:01 pm
PMAC walks a lot and that is great but I kind of want more from a corner outfielder who really hasn’t showed much power yet and can be a bit shaky at times in the field and is slow a foot
June 21, 2008 at 10:02 pm
It’s hard to win when Baek pitches. Black probably shouldn’t have let him start the sixth, but …
June 21, 2008 at 10:07 pm
#55@KRS1: The FJ blog entry about the Jaff Decker signing indicates he stole 21 bases his senior year (and played CF) … for a big hitter like he looks to be, that’s some athleticism!
#57@Kevin: I’m with you … I’m OK with Bud pulling guys like Baek in inning early … even after only 71 pitches … but the bully isn’t quite the automatic it’s been in recent years … it’s a close/tough call …
June 21, 2008 at 10:18 pm
#57@Kevin: When CY comes back, I would try to keep Baek around. The guy actually has pretty decent stuff and I would have pulled him after the lead off double in the 7th but Black showed some confidence in him at a heavy price.
If the ball doesn’t bounce off Gerut’s glove and over the wall for a homerun in the 4th and Hampson doesn’t deliver a ridiculous meatball to Thames then we are thinking more favorably about Baek.
June 21, 2008 at 10:23 pm
#59@JP: Not sure who I would demote, but when Young comes back, there will be no weak spots in the rotation.
June 21, 2008 at 10:26 pm
Greene looks like a different hitter this month, and it bears out in his June stats: .295/.353/.426
June 21, 2008 at 10:36 pm
CY won’t be back for a whole month so a lot will transpire before Baek is pulled from this rotation. Baek has had two good starts and two bad ones so the book is still out on him.
It seems like the Padres are still very much in the hunt yet when you look at that bad record (32-44), you realize that for them to even break .500 they would have to play .580 ball and to win the 84 games that the DBacks are projected to win, they would have to play .600 ball. Is it not unrealistic to think that they are capable of this ? Somebody reassure me.
June 21, 2008 at 10:41 pm
AP notes: Padres RF Brian Giles probably will be out until Tuesday with a sore right hamstring. … Kouzmanoff missed his fifth straight game with an irritated disc in his lower back. He said he’ll try to play on Tuesday when the Padres open a home series against the Minnesota Twins. He hit in the indoor batting cage before Saturday night’s game. He did report some progress: “Hey, look, I can bend over,” he said as he put his uniform on.
June 21, 2008 at 10:55 pm
#62@JP: The Diamondbacks are on an 84-win pace. So nothing impressive there.
I guess the short answer to your question is: The Padres are 7.5 games back with 86 to play. That’s far from impossible. They don’t need a 2007 Rockies comeback to win the division. They need to make up a game about every two weeks.
Granted, they are behind four teams at the moment. So of course, the Padres have to out-perform each of those teams from now until the end of the season. But we sort of knew that anyway.
You’re right, they would have to play .604 ball to get to 84 wins. But then again, who says they will need 84 wins to win the division?
At coolstandings.com, they have the Padres at 3.8 percent to win the division. Not encouraging. But those odds change every day.
I don’t expect the Padres nor the rest of the division to do well in interleague play. A key for the Padres will be to do well in NL West play.
June 22, 2008 at 12:24 am
#64@Kevin: We need two 8-10 game win streaks and .500 baseball outside of those.
We are 20-20 in our last 40. Certainly not outstanding, but passable. Let’s hope the next 40 can bring us 24 wins. It will take one 1/4 of season red hot quadrant to really get us in the thick of things.
We are getting two guys back : Bard & CY - both of whom have the potential to be significant contributers.
It will a tough decision for the Pads around the trading deadline if they are 5 or 6 games under .500 but only 5 or 6 games out. Do you move someone like Randy Wolf when he is exactly the kind of guy you pick up down the stretch if you’re contending.