IGD: Padres vs Diamondbacks (26 Apr 08)
Sun, Apr 27, 2008
by Geoff Young
Padres (10-15) vs D’Backs (17-7)
Jake Peavy vs Brandon Webb
1:05 p.m. PT
Channel 4SD
AM 1090, FM 105.7, XM 188
MLB, B-R
Padres look to extend their one-game winning streak in a battle of Cy versus Cy.
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April 27, 2008 at 1:07 pm
Not a good start to the game.
And the joy of listening to Steve Quis. Hello mute.
April 27, 2008 at 1:07 pm
Always nice to have your ace on the mound, and start with a four pitch walk.
April 27, 2008 at 1:09 pm
Peavy’s pick off move looks much better than last year
April 27, 2008 at 1:10 pm
Great…my first game in a while that I get to watch at home and I get the Quiss man…
Oh well…at least Peavy can make E.Burnes silly.
April 27, 2008 at 1:14 pm
Good start. Edmonds didn’t miss a catch and the DBacks didn’t scald the ball
April 27, 2008 at 1:16 pm
DeJuan Tribble - CB is the Chargers 6th round pick.
April 27, 2008 at 1:16 pm
What is with Giles and the first pitch of the game?
April 27, 2008 at 1:20 pm
That was quick. Let’s have a quick inning Peavy
April 27, 2008 at 1:21 pm
With the weather being so hot, I’d like to see the Padres work the count more.
April 27, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Kelly, what is it like in SD right now?
April 27, 2008 at 1:29 pm
It is 91 with the hot dry wind.
April 27, 2008 at 1:31 pm
I was just coming here to say how excited I was about today’s game, but yea, excitement has been dampened a little.
Hopefully we’ll bring the bats too…
April 27, 2008 at 1:32 pm
What Field39 said.
Peavy missed in against Snyder. Snyder hit it to left-center. Not to be negative, but with the Padres typical home offense, I have to wonder if they can get the two runs back.
April 27, 2008 at 1:32 pm
Wonder if Peavy will whine aboutthat being a Williamsport HR…
April 27, 2008 at 1:33 pm
Though hot and dry conditions have resulted in some big run scoring days.
April 27, 2008 at 1:35 pm
Greenie is one of those who seems to do well in warm day games.
April 27, 2008 at 1:35 pm
That was a frigg’n bomb that Peavy gave up…
Now, KG with a single…
Might be a barn burner…but then I look at the starters and realize we might see a 3-2 game or something of the like.
April 27, 2008 at 1:36 pm
Nice game last night.
April 27, 2008 at 1:44 pm
I can just picture Peavy gettin the loss, pitching 7 and striking out 11 and getting one of the Padres 5 hits.
Oh, and Peavy does not have his good control. 51 pitches through 3 innings - with 5 K’s
April 27, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Looks like Webb is getting a couple of high strike calls
April 27, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Mark Prior threw off the bullpen mound before today’s game.
April 27, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Peavy has gone to 3 balls 6 times (?) tonight. Also, 6 K’s now
April 27, 2008 at 1:58 pm
Through 4 innings:
Peavy:
64 pitches, 38 strikes
4 ground outs, 2 flyouts, 6 Ks
Webb: 3 innings
33 pitches, 22 strikes
7 groundouts, 1 flyout, 1 K
April 27, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Thank you Orlando. And A-Gon actually took an extra base.
April 27, 2008 at 2:03 pm
And the corpse with a nice deep fly to get AGon in a SF
April 27, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Khalil, still allergic to bat control, with a K on a ball in the dirt
April 27, 2008 at 2:05 pm
#25@kelly in sd: I am curious as to how Jakes’s comments about the Padres needing to get Lofton, played with the corpse.
April 27, 2008 at 2:10 pm
The Friars got one back this inning and made Webb through 22 pitches.
How ’bout a quick inning Peavy? Let’s get Webb back out in the heat
April 27, 2008 at 2:13 pm
#27@Field39: I don’t know. The corpse is only hitting .169 and has misplayed a good number of balls. At some point, does pride take over and you retire?
I posted this once before, but seriously could see the corpse doing what Mike Schmidt did in 1989 - retire at the end May with the team doing poorly and he not hitting well.
April 27, 2008 at 2:14 pm
I missed one. Peavy now has 6 three ball counts (that includes the 3 walks.)
Peavy is seriously angry with himself.
April 27, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Threw 4.5 innings:
Peavy:
83 pitches, 49 strikes
5 groundouts, 3 flyouts, 7 Ks
1 hit, 3 walks, 1 HR
Webb:
55 pitches, 37 strikes
7 groundouts, 2 flyouts, 3 Ks
2 hits, 1 walk, 1 reached on error
April 27, 2008 at 2:20 pm
#29@kelly in sd: I am beginning to think it is a Roshambo kind of thing and Ego crushes Pride.
April 27, 2008 at 2:22 pm
And Peavy with the hardest hit ball of the day - a ripped double down the left field line.
April 27, 2008 at 2:23 pm
#32@Field39: Ego is Petco as Pride is to Padres hitters.
April 27, 2008 at 2:25 pm
C’mon AGon. Just a single, put the Padres ahead
April 27, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Nice to see Agon lay off the change to take the walk
Now, it is up to Kouz.
April 27, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Why did he pitch to Adrian at all, with a righty coming up? I would think he would of saved the pitches.
April 27, 2008 at 2:30 pm
Kouz looked bad on that AB. Well, Webb has a good/very good change.
According to Quis and Grant, all of Webb’s 4 Ks are with the change.
April 27, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Webb now up to 75 pitches, 47 strikes
9 groundouts, 2 flyouts, 4 Ks
April 27, 2008 at 2:35 pm
Nice pick by Kouz and a quick double play gets Peavy out of the inning with only 6 pitches.
April 27, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Well, Peavy didn’t copy CY and GIDP. Of course, he didn’t help himself like Germano did, either.
April 27, 2008 at 2:48 pm
damn..nice play by Jackson to rob OG of a hit..
April 27, 2008 at 2:50 pm
So was not giving yourself the best chance to score there worth Peavy getting to throw one more inning?
April 27, 2008 at 2:51 pm
#43@Ben B.: Except Peavy’s one of the better hitters on the team…
April 27, 2008 at 3:12 pm
#44@Sean Callahan: We joke about this, but just for the record it’s not true. Last year Peavy hit .233/.250/.315 for an OPS+ of 51. Very good for a pitcher, but way below what any bench guy hits.
April 27, 2008 at 3:13 pm
I think I have seen this game before, like about a thousand times.
April 27, 2008 at 3:21 pm
#45@Ben B.: Small sample size warning:
2008 OPS+:
Justin Huber: 109
Tony Clark: 69
Scott Harriston: 58
Callix Crabbe: 23
Jody Gerut: -7
Colt Morton: -49
51 doesn’t look so bad, particularly when the bullpen needs the rest.
April 27, 2008 at 3:25 pm
How does Iguchi not get the bat off his shoulder there?
April 27, 2008 at 3:27 pm
#48@Mark O: In fairness to him, that pitch was obviously outside.
April 27, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Tony Clark does no better then Peavy, against, arguably, a worse pitcher….
April 27, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Glad to see yesterday was an abberation….
April 27, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Not saying this is a good idea, but surely Will Venable (i know he’s on DL) or even Cedric Hunter could put up a .500 OPS in center field, right?
I just can’t get over how Edmonds bats 5th in the lineup/ is even in the lineup. But then again, I guess nobody at this point is any more deserving. Not sure what the solution is here.
April 27, 2008 at 4:47 pm
#52@Brett: Any AA, or AAA Center Fielder is a better choice than Edmunds. Why they won’t admit the error and move one, is beyond me.
April 27, 2008 at 4:54 pm
#52@Brett: makes you feel like Boch is filling out the lineup card…
April 27, 2008 at 7:22 pm
I’m really looking for some type of a bright side to the Pads’ current situation . . . and I haven’t been able to find one yet.
Is the eventual callup(s) of Headley, Antonelli and LeBlanc a “bright side?”
April 27, 2008 at 8:25 pm
#45@Ben B.: That lines looks like it belongs in our starting line-up
April 27, 2008 at 9:26 pm
OT: It was cool to see Kevin O’Connell get drafted. Especially in the 3rd round.
April 27, 2008 at 9:35 pm
#55@Nick G:
I was at this game today, and I was trying to figure out where the offensive improvement comes from in this line-up. Arguably, only Kouzmanoff has any shot at making significant positive strides going forward this season. The rest of those stiffs are hitting about what you might expect, or are too old to count on any type of turn around. If this putrid offense continues through June, it would be better to punt for this year and get some experience for the core players that will make up the next winning team in 2010.
But what do I know? I just subsidize their salaries by paying to watch this crap.
April 27, 2008 at 10:23 pm
22 year old CF Chad Huffman is red hot down at AA San Antonio. Wonder if he gets a look at this level (mlb) in September or earlier ?
April 28, 2008 at 1:42 am
#58@Trav: Wait, are you serious? You think Greene’s going to have a 49 OPS+, Iguchi a 71, Bard a 64, Edmonds a 43, Hairston a 58? Not to mention almost everyone on the bench being terrible beyond all reason as well. Based on these guys’ track records, all of them are near locks to improve a ton.
April 28, 2008 at 5:41 am
#60@Ben B.: I can understand what #58Trav is saying. He said “significant positive strides”. Edmonds and Iguchi have had declining numbers for several years. What they did in 2005 isnt really an indication of the players they are today. Bard and Hairston havent had significant everyday playing time to say that they are “near locks to improve a ton”. As for Greene, last year may have been the best season he is going to have. If he batted 230 with 14 HRs and 150Ks this year, I wouldnt be surprised.
The hitting will improve, but I dont think it will “improve a ton”.
April 28, 2008 at 6:30 am
#58@Trav: I think from what I remember though is Huffman’s defense is not very good, he’s limited to LF, and his bat will have to carry him. I think he played infield in college too. On the positive side, maybe we could confuse other teams by putting Huffman at the plate and putting Hell’s Bells as his at-bat song.
April 28, 2008 at 6:31 am
sorry, that was in response to #59, JP
April 28, 2008 at 8:19 am
#61@parlo: Iguchi’s only been a major leaguer for 3+ years. His career line, except for when he was hurt last year, was right around 100 OPS+. A jump from 71 to 95-100 is more than “significant.” Same thing with Greene. He does it ugly, but he’s a career 100 OPS+ bat. Of course this could be his worst year ever, but it’s more likely that he’ll boost that 58 to ~100 by season’s end.
#62@Brett: Yes, Huffman is a LF. I’m surprised he’s not athletic enough, with a good enough arm, to play RF. You’d expect a college QB to have enough arm strength and/or accuracy to get the job done there. But he’s no CF. He’s one of the biggest reasons I was surprised to see them put Headley in LF in Portland. Not only did it drain Headley of some trade value and put him at some risk, it was a very short-term solution. It wouldn’t surprise me if they give Kouzmanoff until July to start hitting, but if he doesn’t, they move Headley back to 3b and promote him.
April 28, 2008 at 9:58 am
Marcus Giles
2004: 111 OPS+
2005: 114
2006: 87
2007: 68
Jose Cruz
2004: 101 OPS+
2005: 117
2006: 88
2007: 86
Terrmel Sledge
2004-2006: 97 OPS+
2007: 80
Iguchi
2005: 104 OPS+
2006: 97
2007: 92
2008: ?
April 28, 2008 at 10:10 am
#65@parlo: I’m not discounting Iguchi’s struggles in 2007, but once he was healthy (as a Philly), that OPS+ was 103. And even if he was on a fairly linear downward path, getting to a 90 OPS+ from his current level would still be substantial improvement. It’s a 20 point jump. That’s basically the difference between Agon and PMac. Would anyone argue there’s no a significant gap between those two?
Sledge had 107 major league at-bats in 05 and 06. There’s no trend there.
Yes, some players fall off a cliff and never regress to the mean. By far the majority of players don’t, barring injury. We have 4 players who are currently 20-40 points below their normal OPS+ range. It’s highly unlikely they’re all going to stay there. That doesn’t count Edmonds, it’s Bard, Kouz, Greene, and Iguchi, all young enough that age doesn’t trump regression. Half the lineup is due for significant improvement. The question is, will it happen soon enough to matter with the way Arizona is built?
April 28, 2008 at 12:30 pm
Greenes strikeout/walk ratio bothers me so much that I have a hard time seeing his upside. I am sure he will get his big hits. He will beat up on some bad pitching in Milwaukee or Pittsburgh that will eventually give him better numbers. But his lack of plate discipline only seems to be getting worse. I can see him getting in a slump that eventually turns into a bad year.
Then again, he has walked three times in the past four games. Maybe he is coming around.
April 28, 2008 at 12:49 pm
#67@parlo: Oh, Greene is definitely the most volatile Padre hitter. With his peripherals he could stink all year and give most Padre fans (with a few notable exceptions, Phantom!) cause to lament that he wasn’t moved over the winter. But it’s much less likely that Greene will stink AND the other Padre underperformers will also stink. The offense will improve….but the pitching could step back, and we could be so buried by the end of May it won’t make a diference.