In-Game Discussion: Padres @ Dodgers (28 Jun 2005)

first pitch: 7:10 p.m., PT
television: Channel 4
matchup: Brian Lawrence (4-6, 4.42 ERA) vs Elmer Dessens (0-0, 3.32 ERA)
previews: ESPN | CBS | Padres.com

You are trying to establish yourself as a credible playoff contender. Which of the following do you do?

  1. Lose twice in the same month to a Rule V draftee.
  2. Go 2-4 while establishing leads of 2-0 or greater in six straight games.
  3. Start a third baseman whose ISO is lower than those of Cesar Izturis, David Eckstein, Luis Castillo, and 164 other big-league hitters with the requisite number of plate appearances.
  4. Bat said third baseman ahead of your best power source to date again despite homers in four consecutive games from the latter.
  5. All of the above.

Smitty says, 'Beat LA!'

195 Responses »

  1. I’d like to nominate Jim Leyritz as the worst Padre 3B ever.

  2. Burroughs has unofficially ended 264 innings this season…

  3. Eric, it’s Richard’s blog. I only post there because nobody else would have me.

  4. I appreciate what the defensive metrics bring nonetheless…Loretta is undoubtedly a good 2B.

  5. Chris Brown and Mike Pagliarullo are tied for the worst 3B in Padres history for me..

  6. Brian G., you clearly don’t remember Barry Evans.

  7. I nominate Mike Pagliarulo.

  8. And yet our hottest hitter languishes behind Burroughs, and has now twice missed out on good RBI chances.

  9. Burroughs made the third out in the third with Fick on first.

    Burroughs made the third out in the fifth with Klesko on second.

    Burroughs made the third out in the seventh after hitting into a double play with Giles on first.

  10. I lied, I just wanted an excuse to say ‘Pagliarulo.’ My real nomination is Archi Cianfrocco.

  11. Archi had some redeeming qualities at least…he could play other positions and he spit in his helmet before his atbats…

  12. Why can’t Boch bat Nady at least 6th?

  13. It’s revealing that Luis Salazar might be considered one of our BETTER third basemen.

    Coleman is commenting on how good DJ’s hands are at 2B. Worth noting, as Jerry played a bit of 2B hisself…

  14. Good point, Mark. That’s huge spitting in the helmet.

  15. I ABSOLUTELY DO remember Barry Evans! Mr. Two-Out-Nobody-On-Basehit?

    I entertained the Mike Ivie notion but gave Layritz the benefit of the doubt because he was also an asshole.

  16. I can’t believe there aren’t more voting for Chris “i’ve got a hangnail and can’t play” Brown

  17. If Sean is going to quit playing defense well, too…

  18. Now I can’t watch him in the field anymore. WTF.

  19. I am an asshole, myself. Sadly I have never played an inning at 3B for the Pads, or this would be an easy choice.

  20. Leyritz only played two games at third for the Padres and only 0.8 Adjusted Games…

  21. how did this poll come up?

  22. If Sean is going to play crappy defense, I think we’re running out of reasons not to play Nady there…

  23. are we trying to make us feel better about Burroughs?

  24. Richard, you have to be kidding me! You mean I had the privilege of witnessing the only two games Jim Leyritz played 3B for the Padres? I remember them both because he was so horrid.

  25. Richard, I’m wondering if your girlfriend knows you’re a dork. ;-)

    Now howza about Barry Evans, my nominee? I think I’m gonna win here.

  26. Dodger Toaster has an interesting look at how the 2005 free agents are doing so far:
    http://dodgerthoughts.baseballtoaster.com/archives/202178.html

    No Padres included. I think I’ve got their methodology right in figuring these:

    Name $M OPS G WARP WARP Cost
    Blum 0.575 672 54 1.3 $0.21
    Fick 0.400 868 32 0.9 $0.21
    Jackson 0.320 732 48 1.3 $0.12
    Sweeney 0.580 867 62 1.1 $0.25

    Name $M ERA IP WARP WARP Cost
    Hammond 0.750 1.64 38.3 2.4 $0.15
    Reyes 0.550 4.08 35.3 0.6 $0.44
    Seanez 0.550 2.34 34.7 1.8 $0.15
    Williams 3.000 4.24 68.0 1.8 $0.79

    Woody has been our least productive FA signing, and he’s still been a lot better value than all but a few of the pitchers inked this off-season.

    Chris Hammond vs Troy Percival? Don’t get me started.

  27. Geoff, how dare you do actual analysis?!

  28. Cool stuff, Geoff. However, when looking at value stats like that, it’s worth remembering that the Devil Rays paid the fewest marginal dollars per marginal win last year.

  29. Geoff, maybe that will post better in the blog text?

  30. Sorry, it won’t happen again.

  31. I believe Towers filled us in on the D-Rays organizational philosophy, eh, Richard?

  32. Ojeda has a negative WARP1. That’s hard to do.

  33. Richard will post it, Geoff. I’m sure of it. Richard?

  34. KT is a big Chuck Lamar fan as I understand it.

  35. What do we all think of DePodesta now? Good but unlucky? or overrated?

  36. Good point, Richard. I was mainly trying to figure out where our guys stacked up against the bigger name signings. I still really love the job KT did of assembling a bench and bullpen this winter.

    Lance, I think you’re right. I’ll post some of this stuff in the blog. BTW, day game tomorrow…

  37. I always thought Scott Erickson looked like something Jim Lee would draw.

  38. Early start — 12:10, I believe.

  39. Also, without the injuries to key players, the WARP wouldn’t be so high. Still, KT did a great job putting together the bench and bullpen. I can’t think of any better in the game.

  40. Ojeda may have a neg WARP1, but at least he’s not being paid $4.25M this year to do it like Cristian Guzman. Ouch.

  41. G’night all. Here’s hoping they hold on to win it.

  42. I appreciate the info, of course. It was just hard to read, and I am ever-so-lazy. I try to whore out Richard to compile and post stuff, as he friggin’ loves it. Couldn’t ask for a finer bunch of baseball junkies to hang with…

  43. On the other hand, Lance, we must never forget the stellar effort of Randy Ready.

  44. I empathize with your laziness. I used to love crunching numbers.

  45. Bowden made some funny moves. huh? But people will think they were ALL good moves if they stay above .500.

  46. It’s all good, Lance. My “sorry…” comment was actually in response to Brian’s “how dare you do actual analysis” comment; I should’ve put a smiley.

  47. In other news, that was a heckuva game by B-Law.