Mon, Jun 2, 2008
by Geoff Young
Padres (23-35) vs Cubs (36-21)
Cha Seung Baek vs Carlos Zambrano
7:05 p.m. PT
Channel 4SD
AM 1090, FM 105.7, XM 186
MLB, B-R
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June 2, 2008 at 6:11 pm
Wade LeBlanc was named PCL Pitcher of the week …
http://tinyurl.com/4yyy8l
June 2, 2008 at 6:21 pm
OT … there’s mention of Bud Black in this story … but it’s the Will Clark story at the end that I’d be interested to submit to Rob Neyer for verification …
http://www1.pressdemocrat.com/.....e_obsolete
… my gut says that that story is made-up … prolly by Mike Krukow …
June 2, 2008 at 7:16 pm
Was it just me, or did the DS site take a dump for a while?
June 2, 2008 at 7:20 pm
Kouz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 2, 2008 at 7:21 pm
Nice triple Kouz
June 2, 2008 at 7:24 pm
Barrett was on the radio today, talking about being patient at the plate. Then he gets himself out, without seeing a strike.
June 2, 2008 at 7:24 pm
GY: Great translation. Let’s hope you’re wrong and his greatness was lost in translation. Especially if Jesus and Mary Chain is involved.
June 2, 2008 at 7:32 pm
#5@Field39: Just saw the replay of Kouz’s triple….um… where the F* was Edmonds playing him? Um, Jimmy, you’ve already failed in this park - why would you be playing so shallow against a legitimate deep threat?
June 2, 2008 at 7:35 pm
I like the jumps that Gerut gets in the field. I am really surprised how well he looks in CF considering that he hasn’t played much there.
June 2, 2008 at 7:36 pm
#8@Marsh: I hadn’t thought of Jimmy being out there, that makes it all the better.
June 2, 2008 at 7:39 pm
Why does Pmac have a bat? Why does he have a uniform?
June 2, 2008 at 7:40 pm
Not sure if anyone cares but the Penguins just scored with 33 seconds left in the game to tie it up at 3…
June 2, 2008 at 7:40 pm
#11@Field39: I was thinking the exact same thing. I’m struggling to see how P-Mac has added much value this season.
June 2, 2008 at 7:41 pm
Another reason that Gerut belongs in the majors may not be measured by stats alone. Seeing him play everyday –the guy is a “gamer” with good instincts.
I guess I just evolved or moved into the “lets see him play for awhile (1.5 months) to see if he can help in the next couple of years” camp…though in my heart I know why he is playing… The Pads simply have no one else.
I don’t want him starting much in July/August but I believe that Gerut is at this point indeed a major leaguer.
June 2, 2008 at 7:46 pm
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH Jody. Geeez
Zambrano was one hit away from a complete meltdown.
June 2, 2008 at 7:47 pm
Of course, after I say that Gerut has good baseball instincts he gets picked off. What do I know ?
June 2, 2008 at 7:47 pm
That is ridiculous to get picked off at 2nd. Are the Padres major-league baserunners or just screwing around this year on the basepaths?
June 2, 2008 at 7:47 pm
#14@JP: Well, he just got picked off in a Major League way.
June 2, 2008 at 7:48 pm
#17@Geoff B: That was a pretty perfect throw.
June 2, 2008 at 7:50 pm
SF Giants just put a 6 spot up in the first against O.Perez and the Mets.
June 2, 2008 at 7:50 pm
#11@Field39:
#13@Marsh:
My one comment for the night, since I have to get up early for an appointment tomorrow.
PMac has been a better hitter this year than Hairston. He’s been about the 5th best hitter on the team, which isn’t good on a bad hitting club, but people overreact to smaller issues. I mean, are people now going to jump off the Gerut bandwagon because HE made a baserunning blunder? In spring training Hairston talked about how hard it was for him to turn into a take-charge centerfielder, but any fly ball flubbed in the OF is immediately assigned to PMac. Sometimes he seems to get blamed when he’s sitting on the bench.
PMac should probably be a 5th OF / pinch-hitter on a good club. But his minor league numbers are better than Ryan Ludwick’s.
June 2, 2008 at 7:52 pm
Sorry Soriano about your long but routine drive to center your 10-13 Road Cubs ain’t in Wrigley.
June 2, 2008 at 7:54 pm
#21@Tom Waits: Is there in fact a “Gerut Bandwagon” ?
June 2, 2008 at 7:54 pm
Nice play by Gooch.
DBacks lose to Brewers.
June 2, 2008 at 7:55 pm
very nice play by Gooch…
June 2, 2008 at 7:56 pm
It’s the “should Gerut be in the major leagues……YES” Bandwagon.
June 2, 2008 at 7:57 pm
#19@Marsh: Are you serious? Zambrano had to do a complete 180 with his big ol body. It wasn’t even close. Gerut was asleep at the wheel. And there are plenty of other examples of baserunning and basecoaching errors this year (for the team, not Gerut per se).
June 2, 2008 at 8:01 pm
#27@Geoff B: Yup. Serious. Helluva throw. Had it not been exactly where it was then there was no chance of getting Gerut.
June 2, 2008 at 8:02 pm
#21@Tom Waits: With all due respect though I could not care one wit about PMAC’s minor league stats (2003-2006) being better than Ludwicks and therefore that somehow justifies a roster spot.
How does John Roskos minor league stats compare to Preston Wilson’s ?
June 2, 2008 at 8:05 pm
#28@Marsh: Alright. I guess we’ll just have to disagree on this one.
June 2, 2008 at 8:06 pm
Baek, is a disaster looking for a place to happen.
June 2, 2008 at 8:06 pm
Edmonds’ revenge for the Padres dumping him.
June 2, 2008 at 8:08 pm
#30@Geoff B: not a problem.
June 2, 2008 at 8:11 pm
mlbtv sucks. Slow connection. Wiped out of the game visually.
June 2, 2008 at 8:11 pm
There are more Cubs fans at this game than there are Padre fans. That sucks.
June 2, 2008 at 8:18 pm
It would be awesome if Zambrano plunked Barrett and Mike charged the mound…
June 2, 2008 at 8:19 pm
so much for that….
June 2, 2008 at 8:21 pm
damn if I didn’t just get done bad-mouthing P-mac….
June 2, 2008 at 8:22 pm
#36@Marsh: That would be Barrett best chance, at getting on base.
June 2, 2008 at 8:24 pm
Thru 4 full …
Pitches-strikes - C Zambrano 78-44; C Baek 62-44.
Ground balls-fly balls - C Zambrano 6-3; C Baek 5-5.
Batters faced - C Zambrano 18; C Baek 19.
June 2, 2008 at 8:26 pm
Looking for positive news in the Antonelli camp- He drew another walk tonight.
June 2, 2008 at 8:26 pm
Did Vasgersian really just tout his recent facial? Really?
June 2, 2008 at 8:33 pm
OT … John Sickels has his own “mock draft” (pseudo-prediction for the first round of the draft) …
http://www.minorleagueball.com.....t#comments
… in which he predicts the Padres taking yet another college pitcher … we’ll see. I like that he predicts that Ike Davis will fall beyond #23 … he’s the guy I’m hoping the Padres take at … big stick that I think can play OF …
June 2, 2008 at 8:34 pm
#39@Field39: love it.
June 2, 2008 at 8:36 pm
#3@Turbine Dude: yes, the site burp’d for me also at about 7pm …
June 2, 2008 at 8:38 pm
Great job by Hampson.
Tom Waits, Gerut just proved your point about PMAC and communication in the outfield. Of course, PMAC still made it look difficult but at least there was no collsion.
June 2, 2008 at 8:39 pm
Zambrano is not at his best tonight hopefully we can scratch another run or two.
June 2, 2008 at 8:40 pm
Down on the Farm … Inman with a nice outing … Blanks with a HR …
http://tinyurl.com/4lrwpn
… in the first game of a DH sweep by the AA San Antonio Missions …
June 2, 2008 at 8:51 pm
I don’t think I can watch any longer with the sound on.
June 2, 2008 at 8:55 pm
USD is eliminated from the playoffs by Fresno State yet again.
June 2, 2008 at 8:58 pm
That’s the 2nd time we’ve seen that play by the Gooch.
June 2, 2008 at 9:02 pm
We need to get a few off of Lieber here.
June 2, 2008 at 9:03 pm
At this point in time Khalil is an automatic out. Cool. We get a taste of what it was like to watch Enzo Hernandez.
June 2, 2008 at 9:05 pm
Don’t worry. I won’t jump off the PMAC bandwagon. After all, he is one of our best hitters.
June 2, 2008 at 9:12 pm
Pads are 2-17 when their opponent scores 6 or more runs. Yet I will watch tonight to the bitter end.
Only if I promise not to complain by junking up the blog ? Well, o.k.
June 2, 2008 at 9:35 pm
I really don’t think the Padres have played bad ball tonight. They were just outmatched by Zambrano.
June 2, 2008 at 9:37 pm
Tramel just got an earfull from Pinnela. He must have used the F word four or five times.
June 2, 2008 at 9:39 pm
#57@Turbine Dude: Piniella should be ticked. Wuertz just walked Hairston and Greene.
June 2, 2008 at 9:47 pm
#21@Tom Waits: PMac should probably be a 5th OF / pinch-hitter on a good club.
O.k - lets go to the rosters of MLB’s top teams (Top 6) and see if there is a spot for PMAC. I’ll advise.
June 2, 2008 at 9:59 pm
AGONE!!!!!!!!!!!!
A one run game now. Does anybody think they have a chance?
June 2, 2008 at 10:00 pm
Agon !!!!!! That was worth staying up for !
June 2, 2008 at 10:01 pm
One out, no one on:
Clark, Barrett, Greene = 0 Chance
June 2, 2008 at 10:02 pm
This is just cruel. We can’t take much more of this….
June 2, 2008 at 10:02 pm
#60@Turbine Dude: I do or I wouldn’t be watching.
June 2, 2008 at 10:03 pm
Come on - Edmonds has a hit and two RBIs against his old club. Certainly Barrett’s good for at least one RBI?
June 2, 2008 at 10:06 pm
Losing sucks, film at 11:00.
June 2, 2008 at 10:07 pm
Barrett almost got that one. Dang. The Pads fought in this one to the end ….
One thing - One request —I want Tadahito Iguchi out of the 2 hole right now !
June 2, 2008 at 10:08 pm
Giants just beat down the Mets 10-2.
June 2, 2008 at 10:08 pm
I can’t stand those fake “Cubs Fans”. There are more displaced people than there has been born in the entire history of the midwest.
June 2, 2008 at 10:12 pm
Well at least Carlos Guevara had a nice major league debut tonight.
June 2, 2008 at 10:12 pm
#69@Jeff: Funny as heck. Thanks. Padres will end this winning streak tomorrow. Marquis and Lilly are good for at least one win in this series.
The Portland Beavers got a good start from Josh Geer but fell tonight 4-3. Geer is starting to step it up big time. He is not walking many and starting to register more strikeouts. Let’s get him up here soon if 28 year old Baek struggles.
June 2, 2008 at 10:18 pm
#70@Ben B.: Guevara and Adams looked good tonight to at least keep us in this thing.
Baek really looked like nothing special to me. He reminds me of Paul Menhart another Seattle castoff.
June 2, 2008 at 10:19 pm
#71@JP: Another 0 hit night for Antonelli, he may find himself in AA, very soon.
June 2, 2008 at 10:44 pm
#73@Field39: And remember the off season banter about whether Antonelli was ready for the bigs ?
Granted very small samples, but two recently recalled minor leaguers Brian Horwitz and Brandon Boggs are two guys that have made immediate impacts to their clubs at the major league level. Headley is considered a better prospect than both —lets end this Padres silliness and get the 25 year old Headley up here now. I don’t buy their justification for waiting.
June 2, 2008 at 10:51 pm
#21@Tom Waits:
A comparison might be PMAC with someone like Gabe Gross. However one thing that makes a PMAC comparison difficult with Gross or anyone else for that matter is that many 5th outfielders can move around and play other outfield positions and are decent glove men. Not to mention that PMAC is not athletic in the slightest so he can’t win a game with his wheels and in fact may lose one because he is so slow.
You can carry a guy like PMAC as your 25th guy but it better be on a team that can rake and only needs a guy PMAC to fill a Tony Clark role or the DH spot.
June 2, 2008 at 11:03 pm
Well, on the positive but ultimately meaningless side, A-Gon now leads the NL in RBI. Team MVP for sure but the longer he keeps it up and gets little to no protection in the lineup, the sooner opposing managers are just gonna start walking him.
June 2, 2008 at 11:08 pm
#76@Steve: I understand why Black ran Tony Clark out there tonight to PH for KK , but I would have let KK bat against Kerry Wood tonight. KK is one of the guys you have to go to war with day in a day out while Clark will soon be long gone. KK has as good a chance as Clark to get on base or even to nail one.
June 2, 2008 at 11:17 pm
#77@JP: Kouz had been removed from the game earlier as part of a double switch. Clark was batting for Guevara.
June 2, 2008 at 11:30 pm
#77@JP: #78@Geoff Young:
and either way, they have to truck clark out there…they can tell hes looking like a bad signing and are hoping to breath some life into him to even get a small but modest return…
so far its not looking good.
June 2, 2008 at 11:32 pm
#79@Ian C.: obviously i mean that from a management/ownership point of view not a fan standpoint.
if it was up to me he wouldnt be occupying a precious 25 man roster spot. but you know.
money and all that
June 2, 2008 at 11:40 pm
#78@Geoff Young: Gotcha. Thanks. Needless to say, I was working on something else while the watching game and lost a bit of focus. I thought it seemed odd that you would bat for your 5th place hitter.
June 3, 2008 at 3:45 am
#29@JP: Poorly. Roskos was a roided up spring training wonder. PMac has always been a good hitter, he’s been far from the most pressing problem this year, and yet people act like his strikeouts consume 2 outs.
You can not care about minor league stats, but most good minor league hitters can also hit in the majors. It’s almost always a matter of opportunity, not skill.
June 3, 2008 at 5:56 am
#82@Tom Waits: Roskos was a roided up spring training wonder.
Funny. Kind of like Ozzie Conseco I suppose.