IGD: Padres @ Braves (8 May 08)

Wil LedezmaPadres (12-22) @ Braves (17-15)
Wil Ledezma vs Jo-Jo Reyes

10:00 a.m. PT
no TV
AM 1090, FM 105.7, XM 186
MLB, B-R

In an extraordinary display of mercy, Thursday morning’s contest will not be televised.

195 Comments

  1. Steve C
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 8:00 am | Permalink

    OT: Bud Black is going to be on 1360 in a few mins.

  2. Tom Waits
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 8:06 am | Permalink

    Once more into the breach of Turner Field I go, dear comrades. This time I bring the ultimate lucky charm, my five-year old daughter.

  3. PM
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 8:09 am | Permalink

    Brutal article in the UT today. Says the padres have not had a home grown 20 HR run guy in a decade.

    “From 1988 through 2006, the Padres were the only National League team that never got one 20-home run season from a homegrown player; in that same span, the Braves got 45 seasons of at least 20 homers from nine players.”

    http://www3.signonsandiego.com/news/2008/may/07/braves-add-fuel-fire/

    Oops, two decades. Um, thats not good is it?

  4. PM
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 8:20 am | Permalink

    TW, Its even more lucky if she gets some pink cotton candy. Wait, shouldn’t she be in school?

  5. Phantom
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 8:37 am | Permalink

    Well, I’ll be listening on XM. Work is pretty boring by itself, so I might as well suffer.

  6. Stephen
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 8:58 am | Permalink

    This just in, from reading comments on SignOnSD: Moores promised a top 5 payroll if voters voted for Prop. C.

  7. Phantom
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 9:00 am | Permalink

    #6@Stephen: Commenters from SignOnSD should definitely always be considered an authoritative source when it comes to the Padres’ financial situation.

  8. BigWorm
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 9:07 am | Permalink

    Yeah, everyone knows the Padres farm system sucked like a Hoover in the 90’s – what are they doing to fix it, that’s what I want to know. Someone yesterday made a great point – by just focusing on low-ceiling / polished college guys we are actually taking a huge risk by not diversifying. Then again, maybe the FO thinks we will be signing more and more guys out of the DR and other international spots and that those guys will serve as our high-ceiling, “tools” guys? I don’t know. . .I feel like I’ve been drinking for six days straight.

  9. Stephen
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 9:10 am | Permalink

    #7@Phantom:

    Absolutely, they are. I can just imagine the fun going on at the padres.com forum

    — Recovering padres.com participator (clean for almost two years).

  10. Steve C
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 9:12 am | Permalink

    #9@Stephen: Ha same here…

  11. Posted May 8, 2008 at 9:43 am | Permalink

    #8@BigWorm: Wake me up in 10-12 years if that is the goal.

  12. Stephen
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 9:45 am | Permalink

    I’m with TW. I’d rather have the Reds’ 3 or 4 studs among a system of turds.

  13. Steve C
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 9:49 am | Permalink

    So has anyone voted for the All-Atar Game yet? I can’t belive they start voting this early.

  14. Steve C
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 9:52 am | Permalink

    Looks like the sunday lineup today.

    Morton at C (woohoo Bard gets a rest)
    Crabbe at 2B
    Hairston in CF
    Huber in LF

    Ledezma may have his work cut out for him today.

  15. Posted May 8, 2008 at 10:10 am | Permalink

    Is the game blacked out on MLB.com for everyone or just b/c I am in Nashville today?

  16. Posted May 8, 2008 at 10:11 am | Permalink

    Way to go Giles…more OBP

  17. Ian C.
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 10:14 am | Permalink

    is XX radio online not working currently or is it just me? it was working before the game then the game started and bam nothing.

  18. Steve C
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 10:17 am | Permalink

    two men in scoring position with 1 out come on Pads we need to take advantage of this!

  19. Posted May 8, 2008 at 10:18 am | Permalink

    Two run lead! Who’d a thunk it?

  20. Steve C
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 10:18 am | Permalink

    KOUUUUZZZZ!

  21. Bryan S
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 10:19 am | Permalink

    KOOZ!

  22. Posted May 8, 2008 at 10:19 am | Permalink

    #17@Ian C.: You have to have a subscription to MLB.com TV/Radio to listen to the games on-line

  23. Steve C
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 10:20 am | Permalink

    Come on Greenie!

  24. Posted May 8, 2008 at 10:20 am | Permalink

    Of course these first inning runs come when I pick up Jo-Jo Reyes for the start against the Pads today. Serves me right, but in reality I was thinking about the Pads b/c it is the kiss of death for any starter that I pick up…

    I did it for my love of the Pads.

  25. Field39
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 10:20 am | Permalink

    Another run would be nice.

  26. Ian C.
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 10:22 am | Permalink

    #22@Coronado Mike: brutal, thanks

  27. Bryan S
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 10:23 am | Permalink

    Khalil is killing us right now.

  28. Steve C
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 10:23 am | Permalink

    Bleh well thats one way to kill a rally…

  29. Posted May 8, 2008 at 10:26 am | Permalink

    #27@Bryan S: He has made a lot of outs for a number of years…It is not all that different now except he can’t seem to get the 1 HR a week we are accustomed to.

  30. PM
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 10:30 am | Permalink

    Kahlil is so lost on the box, no. Tries to pull everything, seems way off the plate. Love to see some emotion out of the guy, some frustration or something, but he just stands there. Creepy.

  31. Bryan S
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 10:31 am | Permalink

    Well, Wilfredo sure didn’t waste time giving one back, huh?

  32. Pat
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 10:34 am | Permalink

    #31@Bryan S: Hard to tell since I only have Game Day access, but it seems like it was at least partly Crabbe’s fault. GD says Escobar reached on a slow ground ball to 2nd and then advanced to second on a throwing error by Crabbe.

  33. Bryan S
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 10:35 am | Permalink

    Morton FINALLY got his first big league hit. Only took him 3 weeks…

  34. Pat
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 10:38 am | Permalink

    Argh! Giles caught looking at strike 3 with runners on second and third! That’s disappointing!

  35. PM
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 10:38 am | Permalink

    Ducks (snorts) on the pond.

  36. Bryan S
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 10:38 am | Permalink

    2 let on. It’s goint o be a long afternoon…

  37. Posted May 8, 2008 at 10:38 am | Permalink

    #33@Bryan S: Are you shocked? 1. He is not playing. 2. He is not a great hitter.

    No, I don’t mean that to sound snarky…

  38. Field39
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 10:39 am | Permalink

    How do you take a called third strike, with a runner on third and less than two outs?

  39. PM
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 10:40 am | Permalink

    Never mind.

  40. Bryan S
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 10:46 am | Permalink

    #37@Coronado Mike: No, no, not even surprised…

  41. Bryan S
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 10:53 am | Permalink

    What’s up with the injury? I’m stuck in class and watching on gameday…

  42. Steve C
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 10:55 am | Permalink

    wow pitcher change in the 3rd?

  43. Posted May 8, 2008 at 10:56 am | Permalink

    Bryan…no word. Just that Reyes is out and Carlyle is in.

  44. SDSUBaseball
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 10:58 am | Permalink

    #15@Coronado Mike: Its not blacked out for me. I am guess its because you are in a Braves area.

  45. SDSUBaseball
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 10:58 am | Permalink

    #41@Bryan S: They said it was a blister.

  46. SDSUBaseball
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 10:59 am | Permalink

    #14@Steve C: Crabbe probably is a wash over Iguchi right now.

  47. Bryan S
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:03 am | Permalink

    #44@SDSUBaseball: I’m in San Marcos and can’t get it on my computer, even though there’s no Ch. 4 today…I think I’m done with MLB.TV.

  48. Steve C
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:04 am | Permalink

    #46@SDSUBaseball: I dont know the Goocher has looked better at the plate as of late, he ahs his average back up to .250 and his OBP to .327 which is not good but it is alot better than where it was.

  49. Stephen
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:05 am | Permalink

    I’ll take Iguchi.

    We want guys to take pitches as long as it’s not for strike 3. To me, the dissapointment isn’t any worse that a swinging K, a comebacker, pop up or easy groundball to first.

  50. Bryan S
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:06 am | Permalink

    He walked the pitcher?? Oy vey…

  51. SDSUBaseball
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:07 am | Permalink

    #47@Bryan S: Ya, not sure why that happens. i love in Irvine though, so I am really never blacked out unless it is an LA game or a national game. If you live in Temecula I wouldnt bother if you get Ch. 4. You will only miss the few games they take off each year, and you are blacked out anyway.

    #48@Steve C: When Crabbe has started he has done fairly well too though.

  52. Bryan S
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:09 am | Permalink

    #51@SDSUBaseball: I actually live in Temecula but I’m in San Marcos for school today…I was hoping they’d lift the blackout, but no dice. Usually I don’t have a problem, I have Extra Innigns too and between the two of them I pretty much get every game…

  53. SDSUBaseball
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:09 am | Permalink

    #49@Stephen: Ya I dunno if I would. I dont see him as much of an improvement over Crabbe right now and its nice to see Crabbe get a start here and there.

  54. Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:10 am | Permalink

    #47@Bryan S: Because you are in SD, you won’t be able to watch games…I had the same problem last year and it was only worth it b/c I travel so much for work. If I was still in SD and did not travel 5-10 days a month, I would not have renewed…

    #44@SDSUBaseball: Thanks.

  55. Steve C
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:11 am | Permalink

    Come Wil one good pitch and your out of the jam.

  56. SDSUBaseball
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:11 am | Permalink

    #52@Bryan S: Do you get Ch. 4 out there? Extra Innings and MLB.tv. Thats some coin there man.

  57. SDSUBaseball
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:13 am | Permalink

    #50@Bryan S: They are talking about him possibly being hurt. When Carlyle bunted they said he took and awkward step at the end.

    it looks like he is ok now though. A big K to end the inning.

  58. Bryan S
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:13 am | Permalink

    Nice work by Wil to get out of it, he’s having control problems though…

  59. Field39
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:13 am | Permalink

    I am not in favor of Ledezma’s stratagey there, but the result was ok.

  60. Bryan S
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    #56@SDSUBaseball: No, we don’t. My parents pay for Extra Innings though… :-)

  61. Pat
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    Nice that Ledezma was able to work out of trouble there, but I hope he keeps these guys off the bases for the next couple of innings at least.

  62. SDSUBaseball
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:15 am | Permalink

    #58@Bryan S: His control was solid the first 2 innings. I think he got a little shaken up trying to get to that bunt.

  63. Pat
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:20 am | Permalink

    Giles with a mighty 2 out walk! ;-)

  64. SDSUBaseball
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:23 am | Permalink

    Why try to steal with Giles? When was that considered a good idea?

  65. Kelly in SD
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:23 am | Permalink

    OG what are you doing trying to steal??

  66. Pat
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:25 am | Permalink

    64: With 2 outs it’s worth it, imo, to try to get him into scoring position. Even if it doesn’t work, which it didn’t, you still have your 2, 3, 4 hitters coming up next inning.

  67. SDSUBaseball
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:25 am | Permalink

    #65@Kelly in SD: I guess maybe he thought he had the element of surprise going for him.

  68. SDSUBaseball
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    #66@Pat: I dont think it is ever worth it with Giles.

  69. Stephen
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:30 am | Permalink

    #65@Kelly in SD:

    Is that the end to SD’s perfect stealing rate?

    Those caught stealings don’t bother me much. It was only 1st with 2 outs. Now you have 2,3,4 leading off next inning.

  70. Steve C
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:31 am | Permalink

    The hit and run could have been on and Crabbe may have n ot been able to connect.

  71. Stephen
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:32 am | Permalink

    #66@Pat:

    That’s what I get for sitting on my post for five minutes.

  72. Kelly in SD
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:32 am | Permalink

    #67@SDSUBaseball: It’s a little hard for an Oompa-Loompa to take anyone by surprise. But at least we have 2-3-4 coming to bat next.

  73. Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:34 am | Permalink

    #66@Pat: I am with you here…I still think players don’t run enough with 1. 2-outs 2. The top of the order up or coming up.

  74. SDSUBaseball
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:36 am | Permalink

    Dang Adrian ripped that thing, you dont normally see Tex miss balls either.

  75. Bryan S
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:37 am | Permalink

    Gameday made it look like Adrian just missed a homer on that one.

  76. SDSUBaseball
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:38 am | Permalink

    Wow, Carlyle tags Kouz, but Kouz nailed him. Another pitcher leaving the game…

  77. Richard D.
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:38 am | Permalink

    sucks we’re wasting this tear A-Gone is on.

  78. Kelly in SD
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:38 am | Permalink

    Says injury delay on Gameday – Carlyle or Kouz?

  79. Kelly in SD
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:38 am | Permalink

    #76@SDSUBaseball: That explains it

  80. SDSUBaseball
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:40 am | Permalink

    Well at least Adrian is on 3rd which means he will score on a hit. Ya never know if he will make it from 2nd haha.

  81. Kelly in SD
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:40 am | Permalink

    If this keeps up, maybe the Pads will find a pitcher they can hit.

  82. Steve C
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:42 am | Permalink

    way to come through scotty!

  83. SDSUBaseball
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:43 am | Permalink

    Well the run scores… I dunno if that is an error or not. Hairston may have been able to run it out. I like how Hairston watches a first pitch BP fastball, but then swings at one out of the zone on the second pitch.

  84. Steve C
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:43 am | Permalink

    Way to go Greenie!

  85. SDSUBaseball
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:44 am | Permalink

    NICE! Greeney double in a run. Ripped down the 3rd base line. Hairston scores from first, he has the kind of speed this team needs.

  86. Steve C
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:44 am | Permalink

    #83@SDSUBaseball: I’ll take what I can get…

  87. Stephen
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:44 am | Permalink

    Keep ‘em coming.

  88. Kelly in SD
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:45 am | Permalink

    Maybe this is the pitcher the Padres can hit.

  89. SDSUBaseball
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:48 am | Permalink

    Can the Padres play day games on the road from now on? I think they are 4-1 in those.

  90. Kelly in SD
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:49 am | Permalink

    Now, it’s time for Ledezma to shut down the top of the Braves line-up (and Campillo – I assume the Braves do not burn another pitcher with a pinchhitter here.)

  91. Kelly in SD
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:49 am | Permalink

    Shawn F*$%&&#^ Estes. After only 63 pitches!!!!

  92. SDSUBaseball
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:49 am | Permalink

    Estes? This might be interesting.

  93. SDSUBaseball
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:53 am | Permalink

    #91@Kelly in SD: I think Ledezma could had gone one more too. Especially since I think his spot was coming up to bat next inning and he hadnt given up an earned run yet. i guess if they want him to be a fixture in the rotation they may have had him on a pitch count.

  94. Richard D.
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:53 am | Permalink

    Can anyone explain the rationale for pulling Ledezma? He’s due up next inning, plus let him get through 5.

  95. Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:54 am | Permalink

    So Black uses the really quick hook today after going too long last night. Was Ledezman doing something wrong?

    There’s a balance somewhere in there.

  96. SDSUBaseball
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:54 am | Permalink

    #91@Kelly in SD: Apparently Estes can opt out of his contract if he wasnt on the big club by May 15th or something.. I might be wrong though.

  97. Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:54 am | Permalink

    #94@Richard D.: Maybe it is his first start…maybe his arm is not “stretched out” yet…maybe they want to get Estes an inning and this was a favorable matuch-up for him.

  98. Richard D.
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:55 am | Permalink

    #97@Coronado Mike: I’d like to think it wasn’t just to get Estes work, and keep Ledezma from getting a shot at a “W”.

    Plus, hasn’t Ledezma thrown 80+ pitches in long relief outings this year?

    Ugh.

  99. Kelly in SD
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:57 am | Permalink

    If I remember the 22 inning game correctly, Ledezma through at least that many and still had something left.
    I just looked at the schedule and the Pads don’t have a day off until Memorial Day.
    First, how do you not play on Memorial Day?
    Second, the Pads go from ATL to SD for three to CHI for 4 to SEA for 3 to SD for 7 before a day off. Great Union work guys.

  100. Kelly in SD
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:58 am | Permalink

    That is crazy travel.

  101. SDSUBaseball
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 11:59 am | Permalink

    #94@Richard D.: I agree, especially when he on for the win. Now he doesnt factor in the decision and Estes might get the win… The only thing I can think of is if they had him on a 65-70 pitch count limit.

  102. SDSUBaseball
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 12:01 pm | Permalink

    Ok so your going to let Estes hit, but not let Ledezma go 5? I dont get it.

  103. Schlom
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    I think it’s because Bud knows the bullpen is going to blow it anyway so Ledezma wouldn’t even get a win if he went 5 innings.

  104. Kelly in SD
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    20 games in 20 days with four games on travel days. I think the 20 games in 20 days used to be the max allowed.

  105. Posted May 8, 2008 at 12:03 pm | Permalink

    #99@Kelly in SD: Sounds like a normal monthly trip for me.

  106. Richard D.
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 12:04 pm | Permalink

    #102@SDSUBaseball: Don’t get it either… maybe it’s a product of the terrible season, but the bloom is off the rose of Buddy Black right now.

  107. Steve C
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 12:06 pm | Permalink

    #106@Richard D.: Yeah I guess it looked a little easier last year when he had the best bullpen and starting staff in the league. Poor pitching only magnifies poor decisions.

  108. Schlom
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 12:07 pm | Permalink

    #99@Kelly in SD: Only Major League Baseball would be dumb enough to have an off-day on a holiday. The crazy thing is that attendance would probably be at least double in most places on Memorial Day vs. a Tuesday through Thursday night. So it’s not because of greed (understandable in this case) that they have the holiday off but for some other dumb reason.

  109. SDSUBaseball
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 12:07 pm | Permalink

    #106@Richard D.: Agreed. What is Buddy thinking seems to come up more often than great move Buddy. For a pitching coach, the guys has NO CLUE how to manage a bullpen.

  110. Schlom
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 12:12 pm | Permalink

    Talking more about the Padres having Memorial Day off — the next three games are here vs. the Nationals (Tuesday and Wednesday nights and a Thursday day game). I’ll bet that the attendance for the Tuesday/Wednesday games would be less then then the holiday attendance for a day game on Monday. Plus the fact that you are spending nearly double for staff, I’m not sure why in the world you’d want Memorial Day off. Playing Monday to Wednesday and having the Thursday off seems to make a lot more sense, doesn’t it?

  111. SDSUBaseball
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 12:12 pm | Permalink

    #108@Schlom: Its just scheduling. Not every team has the day off.

  112. SDSUBaseball
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 12:15 pm | Permalink

    You think Bud will let Meredith pitch the 7th and Bell the 8th? They are his most consistant arms. Or will he go with Thatcher and Rusch again.

  113. SDSUBaseball
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 12:18 pm | Permalink

    #110@Schlom: It will be a much needed day off. You cant expect a team to pitch the 6th through the 28th without a day off. That would be ridiculous.

  114. JP
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

    Crabbe should be gone.

  115. SDSUBaseball
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 12:22 pm | Permalink

    Nevermind what I said about Crabbe.

  116. Kelly in SD
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 12:23 pm | Permalink

    #113@SDSUBaseball: It would make a lot more sense to have Thursday, May 22 off and push the Reds four game series to Fri-Mon.

  117. Kelly in SD
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

    Actually, the Pads travel schedule between May and July is horrible with almost every day off at home in the middle of a homestand rather than at the start or end of it.

  118. Phantom
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 12:32 pm | Permalink

    Nice work Khalil. God, we are just awful EVERYWHERE.

  119. Schlom
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 12:33 pm | Permalink

    #113@SDSUBaseball: I’ll bet every single team would give up a day off (or have it three days) later to play on a holiday. Not only would the attendance be higher, but I’ll bet that concessions get a bigger revenue during day games, especially if it’s hot. The only teams that might not care are the Red Sox and Yankees since they pretty much sell out every game anyway, regardless of date.

    Why cost your team money when you don’t have to?

  120. Kelly in SD
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 12:33 pm | Permalink

    This whole team needs a week off to pull its collective head out.

  121. Posted May 8, 2008 at 12:35 pm | Permalink

    Why do I feel shaky about jim edmonds being a defensive replacement here in a 1-run game? Oh yea, b/c he is just not good right now.

  122. Phantom
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 12:42 pm | Permalink

    It doesn’t even look like they’re trying anymore. 2-base error, hit batsmen, wild pitch. Tie game.

    All 4 runs today are unearned.

  123. JP
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    Morton is good defensively ? I have seen him show a complete lack of good fundamentals in his two passed balls this year in high leverage sitiations. Morton is not ready for the big leagues in the slightest.

  124. Posted May 8, 2008 at 12:44 pm | Permalink

    Well, I can say with a bit of confidence that we have officially entered Project Retool.

  125. JP
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 12:44 pm | Permalink

    #123@JP: Oh sorry. Morton and Crabbe’s minor league numbers were good and they simply have not played enough at this level to know how good they truly are. Hogwash.

  126. Schlom
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 12:45 pm | Permalink

    The question now is whether the Braves will their first one run game of the season today (0-9 so far). Personally I doubt it as I suspect that they will score more then one run in the 8th inning.

  127. Zagz
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 12:48 pm | Permalink

    #125@JP: In Morton’s defense, that was scored as a wild pitch, not a passed ball. Also, he went from AA to the Majors, quite a jump.

  128. Schlom
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 12:48 pm | Permalink

    #125@JP: Was that sarcasm or not? I don’t have a problem with Crabbe or Morton playing as I don’t think the available alternatives are any better. GY yesterday thought that the Padres should send down Crabbe but who replaces him? He talked about Robles but he’s no better then Crabbe — if the team has a problem scoring runs does it makes sense to carry a no-hit defensive replacement?

  129. JP
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 12:49 pm | Permalink

    #127@Zagz: What a gift. Morton turned his glove the wrong way.

  130. Steve C
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 12:54 pm | Permalink

    #121@Coronado Mike: Maybe Buddy wanted Edmonds to be able to take the field one last time in Padre uni…

  131. JP
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 12:54 pm | Permalink

    #128@Schlom: Sadly you may be correct. Though Morton and Crabbe are so overmatched at this level, that you may just want to bring up Stansberry and Carlin just to see if they can bring more stability.

    If we truly have no one better in the system than Crabbe or Morton, then we are indeed a 90 loss team.

  132. Steve C
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 12:56 pm | Permalink

    Well on the bright side Ledezma looked like a big leauge starter today! Had some control issues but did not allow an earned run and worked out of a few jams.

  133. parlo
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    I think that was the last AB of Edmonds career.

  134. PM
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 12:58 pm | Permalink

    Parlo, I hope so.

  135. Posted May 8, 2008 at 12:59 pm | Permalink

    Ted Lightner…so funny…”best catch Mark Kotsay ever made is his wife.” Yuk, yuk, yuk…

    Not that I am disagreeing. She is head-turning good looking, but seriously that was minor league. Leave the funny to Matt and Mudd.

  136. Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:02 pm | Permalink

    #125@JP: Morton is not a legit prospect…his numbers are not that good.

  137. Kelly in SD
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:02 pm | Permalink

    At least Bell is throwing mid-90s according to Gameday.

  138. Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:05 pm | Permalink

    I hope Black has a damn good reason for not giving Ledezma one more inning so he could at least try and qualify for a win? Against the team that traded him, too. He had only thrown 63 pitches!. I’m sure he would’ve been fine to throw 80.

    I hate to criticize the manager because a bad team is going to find a way to lose anyways, but why not try and give the kid a chance to win the game? Geez. He didn’t really expect his bullpen to hold a lead for five innings, did he?

  139. Bryan S
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:11 pm | Permalink

    This team gives me heart attacks. At least Bell managed to not screw it up in the 8th…that PB by Morton just makes me even more angry that Hundley\Carlin aren’t up.

  140. Bryan S
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:12 pm | Permalink

    Did Gilly kill that one? Gameday made it look like he did…

  141. Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:16 pm | Permalink

    The Padres have not given up any earned runs. So they playing poorly in a different way, at least.

  142. PM
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:19 pm | Permalink

    Classic padre rally, runner on with two outs.

  143. JP
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:19 pm | Permalink

    #140@Bryan S: not really: long, lazy fly ball pushed to the edge of track by strong wind.

  144. Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:20 pm | Permalink

    139. BTW Hundley is hitting .203 right now in Portland. Carlin is doing better but this is also in his second year in AAA.

  145. PM
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:20 pm | Permalink

    TREVOR TIME!?

    I do not think that word means what you think it means….

  146. Bryan S
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:20 pm | Permalink

    9 left on today. Yup, these are my Padres… :-(

  147. Bryan S
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:22 pm | Permalink

    #144@John Conniff: Yikes, hadn’t seen the numbers…just heard KT talk about Hundley earlier in the week. I still think Hundley would be more useful than Morton…and I still think we need to get a backup catcher that Black can use. But I’m preaching to the choir here…

  148. Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    OK, Thatcher is another high leverage situation. It should be Hoffman.

  149. Bryan S
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:24 pm | Permalink

    2 on, none out, Thatcher in the game… (beats head on desk)

  150. Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:26 pm | Permalink

    147. I think Hundley will be good, his bat just needs more time. I always liked Morton I really don’t know why they didn’t give him more of a chance or just bring up Carlin in the first place.

  151. Bryan S
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:27 pm | Permalink

    Loaded ‘em up, DP is set up if Thatch can get a ground ball. Come on, baby…

  152. Bryan S
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

    Wow, that sucks.

  153. Steve C
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

    and thats the ball game….

  154. LoyalSufferer
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

    So – when does May begin?

  155. Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:31 pm | Permalink

    can’t listen to the game at work, can someone tell me what happened?

  156. Bryan S
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:32 pm | Permalink

    #150@John Conniff: You’ve seen Morton more than us…and what we’ve seen hasn’t been much. What do you like about him?

  157. Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:32 pm | Permalink

    Incredible. Thatcher, arguably their worst pitcher, decided the last two games, and Hoffman never even warmed up.

  158. Schlom
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:33 pm | Permalink

    Look on the bright side, they could get to draft Stephen Strasburg of San Diego State with the first pick in 2009. And then we can watch him have Tommy John surgery in 2010. I know I’m looking forward to that!

  159. JP
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:33 pm | Permalink

    #144@John Conniff: Would you feel comfortable with any of the 3 guys (Morton,Hundley, or Carlin) starting one game a week ?

  160. Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:33 pm | Permalink

    Wow… Did that just happen?

    So I ask again… Anyone think Stephen Strasburg will sign for slot? It looks more and more everyday like we are going to have first shot at drafting the kid and I sure hope he doesn’t want a dime more than MLB says the 2009 1st pick is worth because that would take us out of the running.

  161. Steve C
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    #155@John Conniff: Thatcher loaded the bases with one out then gave up a single to diaz pares lose 5 to 4….

  162. PM
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    Guess Gameday doesn’t understand the concept of the bottom of the ninth.

    Tough game, tough series, tough road trip, tough season. Just tough all round. Well, back to work.

  163. Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    Oh, and the Braves won their first one-run game of the year.

  164. Kelly in sd
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    And home where Peavy gets to try to break another losing streak.

    Just tell yourself the season is over and treat the games as extended spring training. It’s what I’ve been doing for two weeks. Much less stressful or troubling.

  165. Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:35 pm | Permalink

    #156@Bryan S: I haven’t seen him that much, but I thought he was a decent defensive catcher – some problem getting to low balls, good arm and called a good game. Offensively he really tightened up and posted a decent OBP last year in Texas and has good power if he gets a hold of one.

    I think Hundley has the potential to be a little better all around, but many think Canham in LE will be the best.

  166. Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:36 pm | Permalink

    #161@Steve C: thanks

  167. Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:37 pm | Permalink

    #159@JP: Probably Carlin right now. I think Hundley is the best long term of the three but he needs to play everyday – especially he needs to make progress offensively. He started out slow last year and came around.

  168. Bryan S
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:38 pm | Permalink

    #165@John Conniff: Canham’s the Oregon State kid, right? I heard good things about him when he was drafted…I live 15 min. from the Diamond, I need to go give the kids a look.

  169. Lance Richardson
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

    You heard it here first- the Padres will finish with a record of 12-150.

  170. Pat
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:42 pm | Permalink

    #68@SDSUBaseball: Then perhaps I should have added, ymmv.

  171. Steve C
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    #158@Schlom: no way, Strasburg will want more than slot. The Pads will draft a polished left handed college pitcher with ok stuff.

  172. Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:44 pm | Permalink

    Is this 17 of 21 losses?

  173. Pat
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:45 pm | Permalink

    #73@Coronado Mike: Yes, I agree and feel it’s a good move in that situation.

  174. Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:46 pm | Permalink

    Hey guys, I just found out I’m heading to Petco Park in June to see the Mets play the Pads. Any recommendations/suggestions on where I should buy tickets? Any sections better or more fun than others? Feel free to email me suggestions at toastyjoe@gmail.com. Thanks.

  175. Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

    #168@Bryan S: Yeah – he’s really still learning how to play there – OSU converted him from 3b. His defense is good, but his ability to throw out runners needs some work. Supposedly he calls a great game

    Decent bat – not a lot of power right now, but a good OBP

  176. Steve C
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

    Joe what are you looking for as far as seats go? I prefer upper IF reserve (sections 300 – 302). You look right down on the plate and you can see the whole field and I think it’s the best value (tickets are about $20 or so).

    One tip I have is do not get seats in Toyota Terrace, they are really expensive, not great seats and the restaurants that you get access to are really not that great.

  177. Schlom
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

    #171@Steve C: I don’t think they will really finish with the worst record but if they do I don’t see there is anyway they could pass on the best player after the 2004 (and 2003 as well) fiasco. Plus add in the fact that he’s a local boy (went to West Hills HS in Santee) there is no way they could pass on him. However, I seriously doubt that they finish with the worst record.

  178. Posted May 8, 2008 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    #176@Steve C: Thanks Steve. Yeah, I didn’t want to spend more than $30 a ticket, so that sounds like a plan.

  179. Posted May 8, 2008 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

    Again, I really hate to criticize the manager (this is just the fifth time in two days), but Thatcher has almost zero confidence, you’re going to lose this game eventually (Padres never score after the 6th), so why couldn’t he just go with Rusch or Germano to save Thatcher another loss? Even Hoffman for two innings would have been OK with me as he’s barely pitched while the team’s lost nearly every game in the last three weeks.

    The headline story on my site for today was, “Black keeps giving Thatcher the ball and Thatcher keeps giving up runs”. Now I can use the same headline and story again tomorrow.

  180. Posted May 8, 2008 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

    #179@JMAR: Nice headline. Too bad I really liked Joe coming into the year.

  181. Tom Waits
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 2:05 pm | Permalink

    At least I didn’t introduce my daughter to any unusually bad words today. She’s heard everything I said today before, but usually when I’m bleeding or hit my thumb with a hammer.

    The true head-scratching moves:

    1. Not going with Iguchi at 2b with a 3 run lead when you’re desperate for a win. It’s not like Crabbe’s offense is better.

    2. Bringing in Meredith rather than Bell to face Norton. That’s the highest leverage situation in the game, and Black lets his sidearm RHP throw to a lefty.

    Ledezma looked gassed in person; his control had really wavered. He was throwing hard early. It’s a wonder he doesn’t get more strikeouts. And Estes, to whom I have an unvarnished antipathy, got an EASY ground ball that Crabbe muffed. It’s nobody else’s fault that he walked Corky Miller, though.

    Corky Miller, the type of classic veteran backstop that JP seems to want, has 2 passed balls this season. Morton has 0. And Miller is hitting .083.

  182. Tom Waits
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 2:11 pm | Permalink

    Strasburg is a San Diego kid whose parents both attended SDSU. His favorite athlete (not just pitcher) is Jake Peavy. He had a chance to go to Stanford, Yale, and Harvard if he wanted the kind of education that virtually guarantees you 100K entry-level salaries; he could have gone to Arizona or Arizona State if he wanted a better shot at a college national title. Something tells me he loves San Diego. If we’re ever going to have a shot with a high-end talent, he’s the one. As long as we don’t low-ball him we should have a good chance.

    There are all kinds of ways to fudge the money, anyway. Give him a major league deal, that spreads the bonus out. Defer some of the bonus with interest.

  183. Posted May 8, 2008 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

    #180@John Conniff: Yeah, he was the last guy who I thought would struggle. He had been excellent at every level up until this season.

    John, what are the defensive scouting reports on Gerut and Carlin? You think Gerut can handle CF and how much better of a catcher is Carlin than Morton, and is he better than Hundley?

  184. Steve C
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

    #181@Tom Waits: You went to the game today TW?

  185. Posted May 8, 2008 at 2:29 pm | Permalink

    #179@JMAR: I couldn’t agree more.

    Here was my story for today:
    http://www.padresnation.com/kevinbrewer/game34.html

    I am writing a similar one now.

  186. Tom Waits
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 2:37 pm | Permalink

    #184@Steve C: I went to all 3 games here in Atlanta. I’m now going to curl up in a dark room in the fetal position and listen to whale song.

  187. Posted May 8, 2008 at 3:02 pm | Permalink

    http://www.padresnation.com/kevinbrewer/game35.html

  188. JP
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 3:49 pm | Permalink

    #181@Tom Waits: Cheap shot.Never heard of Corky Miller until today.

  189. JP
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

    #181@Tom Waits: But seriously, a defensive replacement (Iguchi) in the 6th inning ?

  190. Tom Waits
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 4:38 pm | Permalink

    #188@JP: Corky Miller exactly fits the profile you’ve talked about before, with his veteran reputation as a strong defender. I don’t know if Morton is bad, good, or indifferent defensively; the scouting reports on him that I can find (linked below) are generally positive. There’s no way I can understand writing him off defensively when he’s played 36 major league innings and doesn’t yet have an error or a PB. In case anyone didn’t notice, he and the pitchers would have a 1 run game today if not for shoddy defense.

    #189@JP: If the defensive replacement is better both defensively and offensively, why the hell not? Iguchi’s better with the stick, better with the glove, and the team needed a win.

  191. JP
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 6:03 pm | Permalink

    #190@Tom Waits: Morton was not ‘officially’ charged with a passed ball on that crucial 4th run but in any case, he made a weak stab at at ball that he turned his glove the wrong way on. Gotta make a better effort than that with a runner on third. How does this play show up in his fielding stats ?

    If we can’t give Iguchi a full day’s rest and has to come in to close game in the 5th or 6th to spell a banjo hitter who also can’t field then we are indeed in trouble.

  192. JP
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 6:05 pm | Permalink

    BTW, I will find the exact game, this is the 2nd time I have watched Morton make a weak stab at a ball w/ a runner on third w/o attempting to block the ball. Again, how does this play show up in his fielding stats ?

  193. Lance Richardson
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 7:21 pm | Permalink

    #191@JP: While I agree that “we are, indeed, in trouble,” I’m not sure that today’s use of Iguchi is the deciding indicator of said trouble. I thought we were in trouble as far back as last October, as I saw a division with three rapidly improving teams, and the Padres with no apparent way to immediately improve and keep up with the others.

  194. JP
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 7:43 pm | Permalink

    Headley had a great night. 4 for 4 with a walk.

    It seems that the Pads almost have to sign Jacques Jones as a centerfield stop gap simply because of his defense. Gerut in centerfield is not the answer even short term.

  195. Steve C
    Posted May 8, 2008 at 9:47 pm | Permalink

    Jody Gerut, Luke Carlin and Luis Rodriguez (who I think is off the DL now) did not play for the beavers tonight.

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