IGD: Padres @ Diamondbacks (18 Apr 08)
Fri, Apr 18, 2008
by Geoff Young
Padres (8-8) @ D’backs (11-4)
Greg Maddux vs Dan Haren
6:40 p.m. PT
Channel 4SD
AM 1090, FM 105.7, XM 183
MLB, B-R
We’re three weeks into the season; is it too early to panic? More importantly, is it too early for me to complain about people who are panicking? On a related note, drop me a line if you’ve seen my sanity. I miss it…
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April 18, 2008 at 6:04 pm
Count me down as one who is NOT PANICKING. It’s April 18th for goodness sake! As frustrated as I get with this team sometimes, I understand that this season (like last night’s game) is a marathon, and there will be ups and downs. We’ve been in contention late in September EVERY year we’ve been in Petco Park, and played post-game-162 baseball for three years straight. I expect us to be there in September once again. Our pitching is still dominant, and the hitting is absolutely better than they have shown us the past few nights.
As a longtime fan, I absolutely prefer Petco to the Q. Not sure if anyone out there would say otherwise. It’s a great ballpark! Don’t forget that the visiting team comes in and has to play there too — we’ve managed to have a winning record at home every year we’ve been there.
8-8 is not the end of the world. The season isn’t over. Chill.
April 18, 2008 at 6:14 pm
No offense, Jefe, but I don’t want anyone to chill … I love the panic! Can we panic and smell the roses? Yes, I say! April is a time for panic … and then May is a time for massive amounts of Ws.
Looking ahead … off day on April 28th … is there any chance/reason for CY and Maddux to flip back in their spots in the rotation? Or perhaps a chance to skip CY and get him some serious rest to heal whatever’s hurting? That’d be one way to leverage having a #5 starter who is currently HOT.
April 18, 2008 at 6:16 pm
Repeat from previous thread … FJ has lineups up …
http://padres.mlblogs.com/arch.....18_at.html
Crabbe @ 2b … Morton @ C …
April 18, 2008 at 6:18 pm
(Not panicking)
I wonder how many people in the stands stayed until the last pitch this morning (yes, this morning).
April 18, 2008 at 6:26 pm
Not panicking, just a little frustrated. There are always games that you “should” have won throughout the season - it just seems there have been an awful lot of them early on this season.
But onward and upward. It’s not fun if the ride isn’t interesting.
April 18, 2008 at 6:40 pm
#2@LynchMob:Lynch, very nice. I guess I was venting a bit after some of the posted comments I’ve read recently about the team or the ballpark or both.
Guess the Rockies bats didn’t mind the late night / morning. 8-4 lead over the Astros in the 4th.
April 18, 2008 at 6:42 pm
so were ther people still here typing away at the end of 22 innings .. I was at the ball park watching
April 18, 2008 at 6:43 pm
Giles see 8 pitches … taking the final one for strike 3 … and AB with pro’s & con’s …
April 18, 2008 at 6:44 pm
Tonight’s “game notes” are up at mlb.com …
http://presspass.mlb.com/pp_viewer.asp?d=38694
April 18, 2008 at 6:46 pm
There is nothing wrong with Petco, and it’s not boring baseball. Petco is a fairly normal park is you compare it to baseball norms throughout history. It’s only boring if you have been watching baseball since 1994.
Ryan Klesko retired.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=3353798
April 18, 2008 at 6:49 pm
#7@Sue: Props to you, Sue! How many folks do you think stuck around for the 22nd inning? I’ve been e-beating-up a couple of my friends that left after the 10th inning!
April 18, 2008 at 6:49 pm
10 : saw Ryan a few weeks ago … he got married in the off season and they are expecting thier first child … he is very busy with his charities in San Diego , San Francisco and Georgia …
April 18, 2008 at 6:50 pm
#7@Sue: You are a crazy woman Sue! I wanna party with you!!! (JK)
April 18, 2008 at 6:52 pm
Lynch,,: paper said 5000 … there was a good group of us .. “Take me out to the ball game sounded stronger the third time !!!! I imagine some had to work or et kids to school …. but even with the loss it was a great game … great pitching and defense …
April 18, 2008 at 6:53 pm
Come on Mad Dog …
April 18, 2008 at 6:53 pm
Anyone warming up in the pen?
Oh wait, it’s “don’t panic night” … I forgot … sorry …
April 18, 2008 at 6:55 pm
is that an official stat DPN … how many Don’t Panic nights will we have ..LOL
April 18, 2008 at 6:56 pm
Shit! I hate it when that happens.
April 18, 2008 at 6:57 pm
gotta get the pitch down ….
gotta love ch 4 put up 3 run HR ….
April 18, 2008 at 7:00 pm
Ugh, this is not looking good.
April 18, 2008 at 7:00 pm
this may be a rough night ….
April 18, 2008 at 7:00 pm
I’d say this one is over. Enjoy everyone.
April 18, 2008 at 7:02 pm
i lasted for 22 last night .. I can give them 9 tonight
April 18, 2008 at 7:04 pm
This is really not good to be down 6 runs in the 1st. I need another beer.
April 18, 2008 at 7:05 pm
#16@LynchMob: Hmmm, I *really* want to panic
April 18, 2008 at 7:06 pm
Well, this game was over quickly. Hopefully Maddux can get locked in because I’d hate to tax the bullpen any further.
April 18, 2008 at 7:07 pm
OK … here’s some good news … Dogs are getting beat … 6-1 in 7th …
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore?gid=280418115
April 18, 2008 at 7:08 pm
This is the first non-pitchers’ park the Padres have played in this season.
April 18, 2008 at 7:10 pm
No Blazing Saddles reference when the opposing team “works up a number six,” huh? Oh well.
April 18, 2008 at 7:10 pm
Did we really have any chance tonight after that marathon earlier today?
April 18, 2008 at 7:11 pm
#30@Mark O: I wasn’t hoping for much. Mostly I just hoped I could go to bed before 1am tonight.
April 18, 2008 at 7:11 pm
#10@Kevin:
Sorry, but when I see low-scoring game after low-scoring game, 3 runs in 22 innings is a snoozer. What’s the point in comparing Petco to different periods in history? It only matters how it plays in the context of the current game.
Like Dave Campbell once said, I like me some 4-2, 4-3 games, at least.
I got 16-2 on this game, but maybe I’m just a panicker.
April 18, 2008 at 7:12 pm
More good news … Steve Garrison (he of the 7 innings of no-no ball on April 12th) threw 5 more shutout innings in tonight’s San Antonio game!
April 18, 2008 at 7:15 pm
#31@Richard: I would like to say I made it that far last night but I was done after MacAnultys ridiculous base running or Hoffmans horrific coaching…
April 18, 2008 at 7:17 pm
#34@Mark O: The worst was when the home plate umpire stole the game from us in the 14th.
April 18, 2008 at 7:18 pm
#34@Mark O: The consensus here seemed to have pin’d the blame on Hoffman … Sue, is that how you saw it at Petco?
More good news … the Portland Beavers are beating Colorado Springs … Antonelli with a walk, single, and double in 4 PAs … Hundley with HR #4 … Leblanc with 1 run in 5 IP …
April 18, 2008 at 7:25 pm
#36@LynchMob: From what I saw on TV…it certainly looked like Hoffman must have been waving him on to 3rd which makes no sense at all.
April 18, 2008 at 7:26 pm
(Shaking my head like the Aflac duck)
April 18, 2008 at 7:28 pm
#37@Mark O: On the interview after the game, PMac said he saw Hoff waiving him around as he was approaching 2nd.
April 18, 2008 at 7:30 pm
#39@Turbine Dude: Hoffman’s either incompetent or in need of corrective lenses.
April 18, 2008 at 7:31 pm
#39@Turbine Dude: I love Trevor and everything…but if Glenn Hoffman was seriously waving PMac to 3rd at that point in the game, he deserves to be fired immediately after the game. Theres no excuse for making the 1st out at 3rd base, everyone learns that in little league.
April 18, 2008 at 7:32 pm
#32@Stephen: My point is that if you think 1-0 and 2-1 games are boring, then you may not like baseball. The high-scoring games of this era are the abnormal ones.
April 18, 2008 at 7:32 pm
Colt shows some spunk … draws an 8-pitch walk! Well done!
April 18, 2008 at 7:40 pm
rotoworld.com is brutal to Tadihito today …
Tadahito Iguchi went 0-for-7 with two walks Thursday against the Rockies.
Iguchi’s last at-bat of the night against Kip Wells was one of the most pathetic we’ve seen all season, as he struck out on three half-swings. Sure, it was the 21st inning, but it was an awful effort from a second baseman who hasn’t been any good at all this year. If he continues to slump over the rest of the month, the Padres should think long and hard about going to Matt Antonelli.
April 18, 2008 at 7:40 pm
#41@Mark O: Hey, I’m just telling you what was on the Scott & BR show this morning. I guess the girl that produces the show stayed the whole game and they played the recorded interview at about 5:30 this morning.
April 18, 2008 at 7:43 pm
#45@Turbine Dude: PMac also went on to say that he also blamed himself and should have just held up at 2nd.
April 18, 2008 at 7:43 pm
#43@LynchMob: Colt Morton went to N.C. State.
April 18, 2008 at 7:44 pm
Even more good news … Kyle Blanks has HR #1 tonight for AA San Antonio … who are up 3-0 in the 9th …
April 18, 2008 at 7:45 pm
#47@Kevin: Yup, so did Vern Sterry … and a good friend of mine, so I have been following those 2 since they got drafted … so … actually I’m not following Sterry any more as I think he’s gone, right?
April 18, 2008 at 7:47 pm
#46@Turbine Dude: McAnulty being the good soldier by throwing himself on Hoffman’s sword …
April 18, 2008 at 7:48 pm
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr…………
April 18, 2008 at 7:49 pm
#50@LynchMob: Isn’t the coach supposed to be the one who takes the blame, and covers for the players?
April 18, 2008 at 7:50 pm
#50@LynchMob: Well, you don’t go bad mouthing the coaching staff when your position isn’t set in stone. He was just covering his ass.
April 18, 2008 at 7:54 pm
Ahh man. It’s my birthday and we’re gonna lose twice in one day!!!! It’s all my fault again……..Sorry everyone.
We could come back though….it’s still early. Maybe we should just forfeit rather then tax the pen more. Can you do that or is that just little league?
Or how about we get KG to pitch? 69 pitch count for mad dog…..Ouch.
April 18, 2008 at 7:54 pm
#49@LynchMob: So did I. That’s why I point out his school every time he is mentioned.
April 18, 2008 at 7:56 pm
#54@Oside Jon: Happy Birthday Jon
April 18, 2008 at 8:03 pm
#56@Turbine Dude: Thanks TD Rick
April 18, 2008 at 8:03 pm
What’s with all of the fly balls? This is like watching a guy who is down at the Black Jack table making stupid bets to recoup his loses.
April 18, 2008 at 8:04 pm
I want to thank the Padres for that game last night, I had to fly to Portland, OR at about 7 last night, and then had to drive 3 hours south and got to listen to the Padre game the whole drive.
They lost right as I was getting to my hotel.
Anyway, can’t watch the game where I’m at, but Padres aren’t hitting tonight either. Kinda takes the wind out of the Petco being the problem argument.
April 18, 2008 at 8:05 pm
#42@Kevin:
You’re right, I don’t like it. What am I doing here? Why do I subscribe to Cox HD solely for Ch. 704?
You know, Kev, you’re Mr. Argumentative shtick isn’t your most enduring trait here.
April 18, 2008 at 8:06 pm
Nice grab by Crabe!
April 18, 2008 at 8:08 pm
60: Excuse me: your Mr …
I leave all my grammar knowledge at work, I guess.
April 18, 2008 at 8:11 pm
OG seems to be back to his old self.
April 18, 2008 at 8:13 pm
Again, the fly balls. Let’s keep the ball on the ground or at least quit trying to go yard at every bat.
April 18, 2008 at 8:13 pm
#60@Stephen: I don’t see how 1-0 and 2-1 games are boring if you do like baseball. Jake Peavy, Pedro Martinez, Bob Gibson, every great pitcher ever, those are the best games to watch.
It is my most enduring trait. It may not be my most endearing though.
April 18, 2008 at 8:14 pm
I just got back from the Portland/Colorado Springs game. Comments:
LeBlanc looked OK, not great, but got the job done. He looked completely clueless at the plate, then somehow lunged into a pitch and swatted it over the shortstop’s head for an RBI.
Myrow is a stud hitter. The best on the field tonite.
Antonelli looked good at the plate with a single, SB, 2B, and 2 runs, and a great backhand play at 2nd.
Headley was OK. He had an awkward play on a popup to short-left. Made the catch, but ugly.
Edgar Gonzalez was making solid contact. Nice stroke.
Oh, and the Beavers won 5-1.
April 18, 2008 at 8:15 pm
Those are the types of hits we need.
April 18, 2008 at 8:18 pm
65: There is a difference between low-scoring games that are because of great pitching and those that are because of just bad hitting. The former can be great. The later are boring, especially if the team you are pulling for is not hitting.
April 18, 2008 at 8:20 pm
#68@Geoff B: I think that last night might have been somewhere in between.
April 18, 2008 at 8:21 pm
Dog should pitch out to this guy Jackson.
April 18, 2008 at 8:24 pm
This has now become a laugher.
April 18, 2008 at 8:26 pm
Said it last week, will say it again. I am done with Edmonds. Should have caught that.
April 18, 2008 at 8:27 pm
Maybe a 22-inning game followed by a 10-run rule game.
April 18, 2008 at 8:29 pm
I think we should’ve just surrendered early tonight and said lets come back tomorrow and try again
April 18, 2008 at 8:32 pm
Somehow the long game does not seem to have had a negative effect on the Rockies. They put 11 runs on the board tonite.
April 18, 2008 at 8:33 pm
#74@Mark O: Normally I would have to agree with you. However, the Padres really have no excuse after seeing what the Rocks did in Houston tonight.
April 18, 2008 at 8:34 pm
Mmmm….Beer Heaven!
April 18, 2008 at 8:39 pm
#77@Turbine Dude: Beer is good…
April 18, 2008 at 8:40 pm
Maddux can’t go 8, can he?
April 18, 2008 at 8:44 pm
#79@Field39: Dog won’t go. Pen is already warmed up.
April 18, 2008 at 8:47 pm
Since this game is in the tank, I’ll bring up another topic.
Is anyone else sick of Mark Grant and his juvinile humor and behavior as much as me?
April 18, 2008 at 8:49 pm
I once had a dog named Augie. We called him Augie the Doggie (no kidding).
April 18, 2008 at 8:59 pm
I like Grant.
It’s the Padres offense I’m tired of.
April 18, 2008 at 9:04 pm
#81@Turbine Dude:
Absolutely agree with you re: Grant, altho’ I think that is a minority view among DS’ers.
All too often I find I have to turn the sound off on Grant and the beloved Matty V. At least Matt can rise above it on occasion… I find he and Tony G. a pleasure to listen to. But Grant too frequently drags Matt down with him to a 3rd grade level… not funny, definitely not clever, or intelligent, just pathetic.
April 18, 2008 at 9:05 pm
That was painful. I am getting seriously close to the “Back up the truck” stage.
April 18, 2008 at 9:13 pm
I usually enjoy Matt/Mark. Sometimes they are very funny but it helps if the game is decent. Quis is another story.
I’m in semi-panic mode because they keep losing within the West, the outfield situation is as bad as the national media suggested it would be and they look even more anemic at the plate than last year, though I don’t know if the stats back that up. Edmonds is painful. They’re looking pretty solidly 4th or 5th place.
April 18, 2008 at 11:23 pm
i really dont like mark grant either. and im having a tough time rooting for edmonds. i keep trying but hes killing me. pmac isnt playing so well either
April 19, 2008 at 12:01 am
Mark Grant is terrible. If the radio and TV wasn’t out of synch I’d watch while listening to the radio broadcast. Matt and Tony together is good though.
The outfield is pretty bad at this point. Hairston is looking more and more like the 2008 version of Sledge, Edmonds and Giles are past their prime, and Mac will probably never be a Major League level player. The real trouble is that the OF isn’t the only trouble on the team. The INF isn’t that good either. Is any player average, even when adjusting for park effects? Adrian could be the best player, but with so many good 1b around I’m not sure he’s in the top half of starters in the NL.