IGD: Padres vs Giants (16 Aug 06)
Wed, Aug 16, 2006
by Geoff Young
IGD: Padres vs Giants (16 Aug 06)
first pitch: 7:05 p.m., PT
television: Channel 4SD
matchup: Chan Ho Park (7-7, 4.66) vs Noah Lowry (5-7, 4.12)
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Nice of the Dodgers to lose a game. They’re not out of reach, of course, but it’s getting close to that point where we’ll need to start focusing on the wild card chase.
Meantime, Tim Sullivan notes some possible clubhouse friction stemming from the third base situation. In all honesty, it would drive me crazy to think that a guy had been fired — regardless of how poorly he was performing — without a plan to replace him.
That said, only 43 games remain on the schedule. If it’s going to happen this year, it has to start now.
I’ll be out at Petco Park tonight, so talk it up and I’ll catch up with you later. Go Padres!
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August 16, 2006 at 6:13 pm
frist!
August 16, 2006 at 6:21 pm
PM - you gettin’ political on us? … or just can’t spell?
btw, rotoworld.com just posted this note …
Mike Piazza is in the starting lineup for Wednesday night’s game against the Giants.
Piazza didn’t start Tuesday after leaving Monday’s game with a bruised forearm.
August 16, 2006 at 6:22 pm
Also this side note …
Rangers recalled outfielder Freddy Guzman from Triple-A Oklahoma.
Guzman is 2-for-7 in two stints with the Rangers this season. Perhaps he’ll get a start per week in the outfield, but the at-bats won’t be there for him to generate any fantasy value.
August 16, 2006 at 6:26 pm
DavidB at pdxbeavers.com noticed this news from yesterday …
Sean Burroughs-3B-Devil Rays Aug. 15 - 2:07 pm et
Devil Rays released third baseman Sean Burroughs from Triple-A Durham.
Burroughs doesn’t turn 26 until next month, but it’s going to be hard to recover from this disaster of a season. In between injuries, he hit .214/.268/.252 in 131 at-bats for Triple-A Durham.
August 16, 2006 at 6:35 pm
if sean is willing to play AAA I dont see how it could hurt
August 16, 2006 at 6:38 pm
You want to take away playing time from Leone / McAnulty @ 3B @ Portland? I don’t … but s’pose I don’t mind him going to AA Mobile …
August 16, 2006 at 6:38 pm
Trivia question … I just noticed the Padres Team ERA is 3rd best in MLB!!! Tigers are #1 … who’s #2?
August 16, 2006 at 6:44 pm
Padres minor-league suspended for positive drug test
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=2550486
… bleh
August 16, 2006 at 6:44 pm
yes I would like to take away time a 3B from Pmac, he’s not a 3B. Leone is almost 30 if he is not in the majors next year im not sure if he’ll ever make it.
#7 - Giants?
August 16, 2006 at 6:44 pm
#8 - well at least some one is trying to make the padres farm system better - j/k
August 16, 2006 at 6:48 pm
#7: Rockies?
August 16, 2006 at 6:56 pm
Ben - bingo! Yup, the Rox are #2 in MLB in Team ERA … my, that humidor is working OT
August 16, 2006 at 7:05 pm
Just screwing around, hard to get first on some blog comments.
Ok, I see a late marine layer moving in. According to the latest sat picture, clouds may hold off until middle of the game. Predicting more offense this evenings games as the damp air holds off. What we really need is normal August weather that is hot with a dry air component. I’m not complaining about the weather mind you.
Go padres!
August 16, 2006 at 7:06 pm
Did anyone hear Steve on Channel 4 last night refer to the humidor as a “humidifier?” I cracked up on that one… (as I’m one to talk, I frequently switch my boys’ names as talk to and/or about them).
August 16, 2006 at 7:09 pm
Im glad Matty V is back tonight
August 16, 2006 at 7:10 pm
good 1st inning for chan ho, they are ringing the ralley bell in the first inning
August 16, 2006 at 7:11 pm
wow 2 poor at bats to start the game
August 16, 2006 at 7:13 pm
thats ventage Giles right there
August 16, 2006 at 7:16 pm
Giles has power.. I said when he hit his 9th homer that hell frozen over. I don’t know what should happen now.
August 16, 2006 at 7:18 pm
Thats ventage Barry
August 16, 2006 at 7:20 pm
Barry BALCO hits another.
August 16, 2006 at 7:23 pm
amazing what happens when you stop juicing…..only 16 HRs this season..
August 16, 2006 at 7:32 pm
MarkO - so you think he was juicing last season? … or 2004? … when do you think he stopped juicing?
August 16, 2006 at 7:32 pm
Nice AB by Bellhorn … worked a full count walk …
August 16, 2006 at 7:33 pm
Matty V returns = guaranteed win night
August 16, 2006 at 7:35 pm
Pitching details after 2 full …
Pitches-strikes - N Lowry 35-22; C Park 25-16.
Ground balls-fly balls - N Lowry 1-3; C Park 2-2.
Batters faced - N Lowry 9; C Park 7.
… we should get into that pen in good shape this evening!
August 16, 2006 at 7:38 pm
Oops, that 2-1 lead didn’t last long …
August 16, 2006 at 7:46 pm
The ball looks like it’s carrying tonight…cue the bullpens, this should be interesting.
August 16, 2006 at 7:49 pm
I think he stopped before after last season…the injuries finally caught up to him last year and thats why he missed most of the season. Now he just looks old most of the time..
August 16, 2006 at 8:05 pm
Apparently Jeff Maier is at the game tonight. His hands haven’t improved with age.
August 16, 2006 at 8:10 pm
It was going to be over the fence either way…. but apparently Todd Walker taught Belhorn how to play 3rd base..
August 16, 2006 at 8:13 pm
Just a run an inning … that’s all we ask …
After 4 full …
Pitches-strikes - N Lowry 63-39; C Park 57-32.
Ground balls-fly balls - N Lowry 2-6; C Park 4-6.
Batters faced - N Lowry 18; C Park 15.
August 16, 2006 at 8:14 pm
Reds win … http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore?gid=260816124 … it does feel odd to be tracking them, don’t it?
August 16, 2006 at 8:16 pm
Re: #33. Seriously; when was the last time we as Padres fans cared about the Reds? 1990 or 1991, when they were still in the “West”?
August 16, 2006 at 8:29 pm
After 5 full …
Pitches-strikes - N Lowry 77-48; C Park 69-39.
Ground balls-fly balls - N Lowry 3-7; C Park 5-7.
Batters faced - N Lowry 22; C Park 19.
… CHP with not much of an edge … the lower strike-% bothers me …
August 16, 2006 at 8:30 pm
Yup, four-pitch walk to the guy before Bonds. I like that approach.
August 16, 2006 at 8:33 pm
Anybody warming up in Padres’ pen?
I hope we PH for CHP in bottom of 6th …
August 16, 2006 at 8:35 pm
4 home runs, I’m telling you guys, when the marine layer stays off shore, the ball carries. Hitting at petco is seriously affected by the heavy marine layer.
Anyway, go padres.
August 16, 2006 at 8:37 pm
PM, our resident meteorologist! I’ll bet most MLB blogs don’t have one of those!
Hey, I believe you … I think you’re right on … keep them reports comin’! How detailed can you tell if/when this “heavy marine layer” will arrive at Petco?
With bases loaded and 1 out in top of 6th (so long, CHP), we could use it ASAP
August 16, 2006 at 8:38 pm
PM … just a question/correction … how’d you figure 4 HR’s? It’s either 3 (for Padres) for 5 (total), no?
August 16, 2006 at 8:39 pm
Nice work by Meredith, who got written up in the U-T today:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/.....dside.html
August 16, 2006 at 8:39 pm
Cla Meredith … the human marine layer!!!
August 16, 2006 at 8:43 pm
Sounds like a nickname.
That was huge, Meredith does it again.
August 16, 2006 at 8:43 pm
This just in: Cla’s mother says that the actual pronunciation of “Cla” is “Cy.” Who did we have to trade to get this guy for again? What a pick up. We may have just found our closer of the future.
Any thoughts on Mark Teahen or Dallas Macpherson at third next year? Those two might be available, although Macpherson seems to be a walking injury.
August 16, 2006 at 8:44 pm
Stu - thanks for the link to the CM story …
August 16, 2006 at 8:45 pm
I can support getting Teahan … he’s a Moneyball guy!
August 16, 2006 at 8:59 pm
Re: Sullivan’s “Clubhouse Grumbling” article
Tough to blame the Pads’ recent struggles on letting Vinny go. Didn’t the Pads sweep the Dodgers AFTER Vinny was released? Trevor blew some saves, and they lost a bunch of close games due to a lack of clutch hitting and the fact that their pitching was not stellar for a week or so. Thankfully Bochy is in the clubhouse to keep things settled rather than a guy like a Bowa. The Pads will be fine.
August 16, 2006 at 8:59 pm
Teahen would be a great add, in my opinion; I’d be curious to see his stats against Burroughs, since they remind me of one another (tall, lanky 3B who hits for some average but not much power). McPherson is scary talented but has an even scarier injury history - recurring back trouble is a big red flag.
August 16, 2006 at 9:09 pm
More on Teahen: he was featured in a New York Times Magazine article the Michael Lewis wrote on steroids (that is also sort of a followup to “Moneyball”). Amazingly enough, the article is available in full for free:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04.....;position=
Long, but very good read if you have the time.
August 16, 2006 at 9:21 pm
It’s stunning how Linebrink just does not go 1-2-3 anymore … and it’s more often than not, now, resulting in runs … he needs to be out of the setup role for now … donchathink?
August 16, 2006 at 9:22 pm
Their old man (Alou) just kicked our old man (Piazza)’s butt for a run …
August 16, 2006 at 9:24 pm
Yikes. Hard to blame all of that on Linebrink, but he has certainly been more hittable this season.
August 16, 2006 at 9:25 pm
Re: Teahen
Thanks for the Teahen link. I’ll check it out.
Re: Linebrink
It’s not like they’re drilling him. As long as he stays away from those longballs, not much we can do about the groundballs that get through. Despite his inadequate performance in recent months, he’ll still be popular in the offseason. Many teams would love to have him as their closer.
August 16, 2006 at 9:29 pm
Wow … bottom of 8th looks pretty weak on paper …
- M. Piazza flied out to right
- A. Gonzalez struck out swinging
- K. Greene flied out to right
… bleh …
August 16, 2006 at 9:36 pm
Trevor looked good. Let’s see if they can pick up the W for him.
August 16, 2006 at 9:38 pm
Killer Bs coming up: Bellhorn, Barfield, Bard
August 16, 2006 at 9:47 pm
Re: Linebrink… as I noted in a post the other day, he’s fallen quite a ways from being one of the best relievers in baseball in 2004. He lost about a third of his value (as measured by adjusted runs prevented) in 2005, and at his current rate will lose another third this year. He’s still good, but in a very good Padres pen this year is the 5th best reliever on the team (again by ARP). Unless the Padres make the playoffs and Linebrink pitches impressively in them, Towers may have lost a golden opportunity to cash before the perception catches up to the reality. This off-season I doubt that Linebrink will bring you anything close to a Betemit. (Grumble grumble.)
August 16, 2006 at 9:48 pm
I think Linebrink would still merit value. a reliever who’s had 3 good seasons can find some value. Heck, Adam Eaton had value to someone, there’s gotta be a team out there that would pay more than expected.
August 16, 2006 at 9:49 pm
cash in, i meant
August 16, 2006 at 9:53 pm
After reading that article on Teahen, he might not be available after all. Good article, though.
I doubt Linebrink has lost 2/3 of his value since 2004. From everything I read, half the league wanted him before the trading deadline, so don’t expect things to change much in the offseason. What we’ll get in return is debatable, but Linebrink and a prospect could bring something nice.
August 16, 2006 at 9:56 pm
Unbelievable. I thought there was no way the Pads could lose this game. 3 in a row like this? Almost as unlikely as Benitez converting 3 in a row. We need some magic.
August 16, 2006 at 9:57 pm
Wow, great catch by Johnson. That had double written all over it.
August 16, 2006 at 9:59 pm
The reason Teahen might be available is because Kansas City has a hot 3B prospect in Alex Gordon. The price for Teahen will be high though; he’s hitting .280 / .358 / .513 with 14 HR.
August 16, 2006 at 10:02 pm
YEAH. Who said anything about declining stats?
August 16, 2006 at 10:02 pm
Giles has found some power. Hope he’s healthy now.
August 16, 2006 at 10:03 pm
Oops, I thought the TV graphic said that was Giles. Dumb SF broadcast.
August 16, 2006 at 10:04 pm
Nice knowing you Dave Roberts.
August 16, 2006 at 10:05 pm
Kevin - my bad as well (see 64). The Giants’ broadcast did say it was Giles. That’s what I get for not paying attention.
August 16, 2006 at 10:16 pm
I’m home early tonight. I couldn’t bear to stick around after that Cameron brain fart in the eighth. Totally not Linebrink’s fault. Let’s snatch this one back.
August 16, 2006 at 10:23 pm
Nice job for several Beavers tonight in 4-3 win @ Las Vegas … http://tinyurl.com/r3fmx … Dewon with 7 IP for the W … Cassidy with the other 2 for Save #7 (ERA = 0.69) … Sledge with a 2-run HR, 3 RsBI total … McAnulty with the other RBI …
August 16, 2006 at 10:23 pm
Brocail’s goatee is approaching Rod Beck-ian proportions. Looks like a small furry animal…which is all good when he goes 1-2-3.
August 16, 2006 at 10:25 pm
Nice quiet top of 11th for Brocail …
- S. Hillenbrand grounded out to third
- E. Alfonzo struck out looking
- S. Finley flied out to left
… 10 pitches … 9 for strikes!
August 16, 2006 at 10:35 pm
Geoff, I was at the game as well. Cameron’s play in the eigth was inexcusable, I agree.
August 16, 2006 at 10:35 pm
One more note from the Beavers game … McAnulty @ 3B and Leone @ SS … error-free …
August 16, 2006 at 10:41 pm
Woulda been a good night to be up at The Diamond … Storm wins 5-3 … Jamison with Save #27 … that should get him bump’d to AA next year, donchathink?
Headley with a couple of hits and RsBi …
I’ll throw in a plug for PeterF’s reports … http://padresrundown.blogspot.com … check it out *late* tonight (or early tomorrow morning) … he’ll find some good news down on the farm each day!
August 16, 2006 at 10:42 pm
Blum can’t get an AB here can he?
Is there a worse bench player right now??
August 16, 2006 at 10:44 pm
getting sleepy.
August 16, 2006 at 10:46 pm
A K for Blum…huh…go figure
August 16, 2006 at 10:47 pm
Swinging… on a slider down and in… shocking…
August 16, 2006 at 10:48 pm
I think the only man slower than Mike Piazza…in the whole world might be either me…or AGon.
August 16, 2006 at 10:48 pm
… on we go … to the 13th!
August 16, 2006 at 10:56 pm
Brocail in 2 IP: 16 pitches … 14 for strikes …
August 16, 2006 at 10:59 pm
CM … no way you’re faster than me … and I’ll bet Lance Richardson is pretty slow too!
August 16, 2006 at 11:00 pm
uh … it is getting late … I meant “… no way you’re *slower* than me …” … perhaps in more ways than one?
August 16, 2006 at 11:01 pm
Pretty sure Lance claims to be rather quick.
August 16, 2006 at 11:04 pm
That was horrible.
August 16, 2006 at 11:04 pm
Letting Embree go that long was an interesting choice.
August 16, 2006 at 11:05 pm
It wasn’t pinch-hitting with Woody stupid or anything close to that, but I don’t get it.
August 16, 2006 at 11:09 pm
Hate this move by Bochy! Why bring in a guy who hasn’t pitched w/ bases loaded!
August 16, 2006 at 11:10 pm
Especially a guy who overthrows!
August 16, 2006 at 11:23 pm
So much for redemption. Cameron makes the last out. I don’t intend to quit anytime soon, but it’s getting harder to keep pulling for these guys.
August 16, 2006 at 11:23 pm
Bad news:
We’re at .500 again, and the can’t-win-on-the-road Giants just took the first three.
Good news:
Canseco hits 4 and walks 5 in his pitching debut.
And Peavy’s going tomorrow.
Hasta manana.
August 16, 2006 at 11:29 pm
So, this is what third place feels like. Sigh. Good night, everyone. Maybe tomorrow will be better.
August 16, 2006 at 11:41 pm
500, that really hurts. Why the hell can’t we win at home.
August 16, 2006 at 11:55 pm
Man is it hard to pull for these guys. I believe they are now 0-20 with 2 SF with men in scoring position in this series. Statistically amazing, but painful to watch.
I hang this on Bochy. Why is Piazza still in the game in 8th, especially after a runner gets on? To give him his AB in the 9th? When the statistical gap between Piazza and Bowen/Bard is not big to warrant him in. So he gets run on, missed throw and Cameron stopped thinking. But no way Bard or Bowen throws the ball into CF. If you 3 catchers, use them. This lack of careful thinking when you are in close race seems worthy of being fired.
Perhaps there is a lot of stuff away from the field that Bochy does really well, like keep players motivated, etc, but nights like this just seems like he is willing to be very cavalier with outs and runs in tight games. Like Cameron vs. Lidge in the Houston game. Just tossing away outs. He is loyal to players, going to keep them in no matter what the stats say, assuming they are a Proven Veteran.
I think I need to stop the Tivo and let them go for about 2 weeks and see what it looks like. I hope this helps. Good luck over the next two weeks guys.