Top 10 Second Basemen in Padres History
This is a work-in-progress:
- Mark Loretta
- Roberto Alomar
- Quilvio Veras
- Bip Roberts
- Tim Flannery
- Alan Wiggins
- Jody Reed
- Juan Bonilla
- Tito Fuentes
- Josh Barfield
I’m very confident about those first three, but 4-9 are a jumbled mess. Others you could make a case for include Dave Campbell, Derrel Thomas, Tim Teufel, Bret Boone, Damian Jackson, and Ramon Vazquez…
Who will be September call ups?
50: I’m not claiming anything in regard to initial vs final payrolls. I’m only talking opening day versus opening day. There was not a massive, hidden bulge of payroll stuck underneath the Padres shirts. Whatever bulge there was is pretty comparable to other teams. The 750K buyout for Piazza (and 500K for Klesko) are garden-variety; Cruz had a 300K buyout paid by the Dodgers. B Molina was paid 500K to go away by the Blue Jays. And so on and so forth.
Same thing with deferred payroll. The Dbacks, for example, have gigantic deferred player payouts. Huge. Tony Gwynn’s 600K, which we’ve probably been carrying in a tax-friendly form since he retired, is peanuts compared to what Arizona owes people.
Adding up the salaries of the players who were on the opening day roster, I get around 53.5 million. Cots includes pro-rated signing bonuses. That includes players who aren’t on the team now but were on opening day. It seems quite possible that Walker’s 900K buyout is in there, but even if it’s not, it’s not a big sum. And again, you can’t count it as a guarantee. If it was, why fight the case?
Just to be clear, I’m not the one claiming we had a 50M payroll. It was close to 58 million on opening day, and if it was more because of buyouts, it’s not unlike the rise of many other teams. It’s gone up since then, which nobody disputes. But the Padres did not have this extraordinary lump of payroll-like obligations that nobody else did.
I’m also fine with Blum platooning, seeing as Marcus is off the roids and therefore unable to produce
52: I respect your opinion, TW, now I would like to see if it can be substantiated with a decent sample. Do a similar analysis for comparable payroll teams, not just the Diamondbacks.
The Padres’ bulge is substantial. It can go anywhere from $10-15 million. Do other comparable teams have similar bulges? I would imagine you are right for a team like the Diamondbacks now that I think about it – Schilling/Johnson etc deferred money, but it still would be interesting to see the numbers.
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54: What bulge are you talking about? I’ve stated multiple times that I’m not comparing their opening day (reported) vs their current payroll. They’ve added to their opening day payroll more than anyone in the division. Are you claiming that their actual opening day payroll was 10-15 million more than anyone else says it was? Because that’s the claim that would need substantiation. You can count all the buyouts, incentives, and deferred payments you want, it’s not 10M dollar. Unless you’re using Padre Draft Budget Math.
Their payroll at the end of the season is likely to be around 68 million. Stipulated. Done. Not what I was talking about it. On opening day they were not carrying this massive load beyond the 58M reported in multiple places. The extra money they were legally obligated to pay beyond that 58M was in line with what a lot of clubs pay nearly every year.
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