Hippies have bad acid flashbacks. Padre fans have bad catcher flashbacks. I mistakenly referred to Ramon Hernandez as Carlos Hernandez yesterday. Hope I didn’t freak anybody out with that one. Thanks to a couple of Jeffs for letting me know.
Anyway, today’s letter comes from Bill Robens, who writes, in response to the March 9 entry:
I’ve been going through the new Prospectus and I too have found something to get irritated with. On Ichiro(!)’s comment, the first line is “This is the player people think Tony Gwynn was”. The implication being that Ichiro’s the real deal, and BETTER than Tony.
Comparing their age 27-29 seasons:
Ichiro SB/CS OPS+ 350/381/457 56/14 127 321/388/425 31/15 125 312/352/436 34/8 110 Gwynn SB/CS OPS+ 370/447/511 56/12 158 313/373/415 26/11 129 336/389/424 40/16 1331987 was a hitter’s year on par with Suzuki’s era, but ’88 and ’89 were big pitcher’s years. Both players are roughly equal in fielding and baserunning (this is still the ‘thin’ Tony). Seattle’s a slightly tougher park to hit in, and Tony missed 25 games in ’88 but it doesn’t matter because at this point it’s not particularly close.
Did you notice this comment? Immediately drove me nuts.
Wow. Actually, I hadn’t noticed this because I kind of lost momentum after reading through the Padre section.
Just for grins, here are the yearly OPS+ for Gwynn during his seasons as a regular, in descending order of quality:
OPS+ Yr 169 94 158 87 156 97 141 84 138 95 136 93 135 86 135 98 133 89 129 88 127 96 121 92 120 99 118 91 117 85 112 90
No offense to Suzuki, who really is a great player (as Prospectus points out), but his best season so far in North America would match Gwynn’s 11th best season. There really is no shame in that. But to insinuate that Suzuki is a better player than (or even as good a player as) Gwynn was in his prime is silly.
I absolutely don’t mean this as a slam on Suzuki. It’s like saying Halle Berry isn’t as hot as Lucy Liu. Nothing wrong with Berry, other than she ain’t no Liu.
Same with Suzuki. Tremendous ballplayer. If anything, the fact that a player of Suzuki’s stature falls so far short of Gwynn in terms of actual production only serves to emphasize what a special player Gwynn was.
Thanks for writing, Bill. Hope to hear from you again in the future.
Couple other quick items of interest, them I’m outta here.
- 2004 NL West Established Win Shares Report (Baseball Crank). Explanation of his methodology may be found in the January 27 entry.
- Petco Park gives Padres’ players quality facilities (NC Times). The Padres no longer have to share batting cages with the visiting team. Players no longer have to walk past the visting clubhouse to get to the weight room.
- Royals 9, Padres 4 (U-T). Phil Nevin was supposed to start Tuesday, but some food he ate had other ideas. Sterling Hitchcock coughed up five runs in the first and lasted only three innings.
Okay, time to go destroy evil beings from another world. Later…
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