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		<title>By: Tom Waits</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Waits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#10@&lt;a href="#comment-301065" rel="nofollow"&gt;wrveres&lt;/a&gt;: Of course they are, but if it's a rebuilding season then it's silly to spend millions on marginal improvements. And if they don't have the resources or the desire to fix the pitching, then fixing second base does very little for us. 

#11@&lt;a href="#comment-301153" rel="nofollow"&gt;Geoff Young&lt;/a&gt;: Not a few Padre fans think that Estes would have been a fine 5th starter in 2009. So yes, let us not speak of pitching, because it apparently leads to people being stupid.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-301159"&gt;1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#10@<a href="#comment-301065" rel="nofollow">wrveres</a>: Of course they are, but if it&#8217;s a rebuilding season then it&#8217;s silly to spend millions on marginal improvements. And if they don&#8217;t have the resources or the desire to fix the pitching, then fixing second base does very little for us. </p>
<p>#11@<a href="#comment-301153" rel="nofollow">Geoff Young</a>: Not a few Padre fans think that Estes would have been a fine 5th starter in 2009. So yes, let us not speak of pitching, because it apparently leads to people being stupid.
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		<title>By: Geoff Young</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it interesting that nobody wants to talk about our pitching projections. The less we think about last year's pitchers, the better? ;-)&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-301153"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it interesting that nobody wants to talk about our pitching projections. The less we think about last year&#8217;s pitchers, the better? <img src='http://ducksnorts.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>By: wrveres</title>
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		<dc:creator>wrveres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 06:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Worst case, you get the same crud performance as NOG and Iguchi without paying several million for it, and Antonelli gets another few months at AAA

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The games in April are just as important. 

The fact that Towers is refusing to address 2B anymore this winter tells me you are probably right, but it is this mentality that makes it so maddening to be a Padre fan.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-301065"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Worst case, you get the same crud performance as NOG and Iguchi without paying several million for it, and Antonelli gets another few months at AAA</p>
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<p>The games in April are just as important. </p>
<p>The fact that Towers is refusing to address 2B anymore this winter tells me you are probably right, but it is this mentality that makes it so maddening to be a Padre fan.
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		<title>By: Tom Waits</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Waits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Denker: Denker's a very smart pickup. Sometimes guys are let go for a legitimate reason, other times they're just undervalued (Heath Bell, Linebrink, etc.). Worst case, you get the same crud performance as NOG and Iguchi without paying several million for it, and Antonelli gets another few months at AAA. 

#8@&lt;a href="#comment-300422" rel="nofollow"&gt;Loren&lt;/a&gt;: Zero interest in Hennessey. Reineke and Baek both seem best suited to the pen, and I'd expect both of them to be there.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-300744"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Denker: Denker&#8217;s a very smart pickup. Sometimes guys are let go for a legitimate reason, other times they&#8217;re just undervalued (Heath Bell, Linebrink, etc.). Worst case, you get the same crud performance as NOG and Iguchi without paying several million for it, and Antonelli gets another few months at AAA. </p>
<p>#8@<a href="#comment-300422" rel="nofollow">Loren</a>: Zero interest in Hennessey. Reineke and Baek both seem best suited to the pen, and I&#8217;d expect both of them to be there.
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		<title>By: Loren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of Giants, they released Brad Hennessey; anyone interested in picking him up as a spare arm in the bullpen?

I don't understand why Denker is there unless they really saw something in him, that we haven't, that they really didn't like. But that doesn't add up for a guy who ran up the ladder so fast. Btw DePo didn't say Denker would compete for the 2B job, I mentioned it in the comments.

Does anyone see any of the guys we picked up during the year like Reinke or Baek making an impact in the bullpen in the 2009 season?&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-300422"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of Giants, they released Brad Hennessey; anyone interested in picking him up as a spare arm in the bullpen?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand why Denker is there unless they really saw something in him, that we haven&#8217;t, that they really didn&#8217;t like. But that doesn&#8217;t add up for a guy who ran up the ladder so fast. Btw DePo didn&#8217;t say Denker would compete for the 2B job, I mentioned it in the comments.</p>
<p>Does anyone see any of the guys we picked up during the year like Reinke or Baek making an impact in the bullpen in the 2009 season?
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		<title>By: SDSUBaseball</title>
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		<dc:creator>SDSUBaseball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#5@&lt;a href="#comment-300293" rel="nofollow"&gt;Geoff Young&lt;/a&gt;: I think this is a great pickup. Next to Antonelli and Sogard, he gives us another legit shot at a young long-term 2B. His numbers were good in the minors and even his cup of coffee with SF this year was pretty good. He worked his way from A+ to MLB within the 2008 season. I am with you, Geoff, not quite sure why he was available in the first place.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-300389"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#5@<a href="#comment-300293" rel="nofollow">Geoff Young</a>: I think this is a great pickup. Next to Antonelli and Sogard, he gives us another legit shot at a young long-term 2B. His numbers were good in the minors and even his cup of coffee with SF this year was pretty good. He worked his way from A+ to MLB within the 2008 season. I am with you, Geoff, not quite sure why he was available in the first place.
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 20:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DePodesta wrote about Denker:

http://itmightbedangerous.blogspot.com/2008/10/claiming-travis-denker.html

Towers said Denker will compete with Matt Antonelli, Luis Rodriguez and Edgar Gonzalez for the second base job. 

"I don't see us going out and getting a second baseman," Towers said.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-300378"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DePodesta wrote about Denker:</p>
<p><a href="http://itmightbedangerous.blogspot.com/2008/10/claiming-travis-denker.html" rel="nofollow">http://itmightbedangerous.blog.....enker.html</a></p>
<p>Towers said Denker will compete with Matt Antonelli, Luis Rodriguez and Edgar Gonzalez for the second base job. </p>
<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t see us going out and getting a second baseman,&#8221; Towers said.
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		<title>By: Geoff Young</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 07:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#3@&lt;a href="#comment-300249" rel="nofollow"&gt;Steve C&lt;/a&gt;, #4@&lt;a href="#comment-300275" rel="nofollow"&gt;JP&lt;/a&gt;: Denker is an interesting pickup; I'm not quite sure why he became available either. The guy has a &lt;a href="http://minors.baseball-reference.com/players.cgi?pid=3828" rel="nofollow"&gt;pretty solid minor-league track record&lt;/a&gt;. Seems like someone who could be useful...&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-300293"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#3@<a href="#comment-300249" rel="nofollow">Steve C</a>, #4@<a href="#comment-300275" rel="nofollow">JP</a>: Denker is an interesting pickup; I&#8217;m not quite sure why he became available either. The guy has a <a href="http://minors.baseball-reference.com/players.cgi?pid=3828" rel="nofollow">pretty solid minor-league track record</a>. Seems like someone who could be useful&#8230;
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		<title>By: JP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 03:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Waiver claim of 22 year old second basemen Travis Denker could be a nifty one. Denker's minor league numbers at AAA level are more than acceptable.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-300275"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Waiver claim of 22 year old second basemen Travis Denker could be a nifty one. Denker&#8217;s minor league numbers at AAA level are more than acceptable.
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		<title>By: Steve C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Padres calimed Travis Denker off waivers from the Giants...Wow I'm really suprised the Giants let this kid go.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-300249"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Padres calimed Travis Denker off waivers from the Giants&#8230;Wow I&#8217;m really suprised the Giants let this kid go.
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