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Comments on: The Perils of Projecting http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/09/the-perils-of-projecting.html Blogging the San Diego Padres baseball club. Established 1997. Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:22:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Alan http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/09/the-perils-of-projecting.html/comment-page-1#comment-265171 Alan Mon, 08 Sep 2008 17:53:55 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2726#comment-265171 The not resting Adrian amazes me as well -- especially since: a. Black mentioned that he screwed up last year b. While Adrian hits lefties well, he doesn't hit the really nasty lefties well, so it is easy to find days to rest him. Like others have said, we should have a righty partner for him at 1B. If Kouz is still here next year, that's great. Frankly, the way a lower payroll team can compete is through strict platooning. If we keep Giles around (please), we should look to finish off the roster so that we can go Kouz (1B), Headley (3B), Hairston (CF) and have the other OFs on the roster be Venable, Giles and definite RH to we can platoon the others when needed. (Or you can keep Adrian in if the lefty is "normal" and have an all-RH outfield). That said, Adrian does need to get in a bit better shape.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-265171">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> The not resting Adrian amazes me as well — especially since:

a. Black mentioned that he screwed up last year
b. While Adrian hits lefties well, he doesn’t hit the really nasty lefties well, so it is easy to find days to rest him.

Like others have said, we should have a righty partner for him at 1B. If Kouz is still here next year, that’s great. Frankly, the way a lower payroll team can compete is through strict platooning.

If we keep Giles around (please), we should look to finish off the roster so that we can go Kouz (1B), Headley (3B), Hairston (CF) and have the other OFs on the roster be Venable, Giles and definite RH to we can platoon the others when needed. (Or you can keep Adrian in if the lefty is “normal” and have an all-RH outfield).

That said, Adrian does need to get in a bit better shape.

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]]> By: Geoff Young http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/09/the-perils-of-projecting.html/comment-page-1#comment-264181 Geoff Young Mon, 08 Sep 2008 04:32:58 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2726#comment-264181 #16@<a href="#comment-262821" rel="nofollow">Tom Waits</a>: I wonder if there's a mental component as well. Everyone is different, and I have no way of knowing what's going on with Adrian, but I'm pretty sure the daily grind would wear on me after a while even if I were feeling physically fit. #18@<a href="#comment-263459" rel="nofollow">dennis</a>: You raise an interesting point. A stronger core helped prolong Steve Finley's career. #19@<a href="#comment-263514" rel="nofollow">Masticore317</a>: Yeah, you'd hope that Black et al. would recognize his need for occasional rest. It's not like these are critical games at this point.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-264181">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> #16@Tom Waits: I wonder if there’s a mental component as well. Everyone is different, and I have no way of knowing what’s going on with Adrian, but I’m pretty sure the daily grind would wear on me after a while even if I were feeling physically fit.

#18@dennis: You raise an interesting point. A stronger core helped prolong Steve Finley’s career.

#19@Masticore317: Yeah, you’d hope that Black et al. would recognize his need for occasional rest. It’s not like these are critical games at this point.

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]]> By: PF4L http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/09/the-perils-of-projecting.html/comment-page-1#comment-264044 PF4L Mon, 08 Sep 2008 01:46:34 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2726#comment-264044 #11@<a href="#comment-262628" rel="nofollow">Masticore317</a>: Ekstrom was drafted in '04. I don't quite understand how he could be a 6 year free agent, unless a September call-up makes him that.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-264044">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> #11@Masticore317: Ekstrom was drafted in ‘04. I don’t quite understand how he could be a 6 year free agent, unless a September call-up makes him that.

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]]> By: JP http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/09/the-perils-of-projecting.html/comment-page-1#comment-263908 JP Sun, 07 Sep 2008 23:12:42 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2726#comment-263908 Kouzmanoff's defensive play over the last week or so has been phenomenal. In almost two full seasons in the bigs, this is the best week that KK has had with the glove. Pads win 7 of last 13 against playoff contenders. Nice. Enjoyed the Pads scaring the heck out of the Brewers all weekend.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-263908">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> Kouzmanoff’s defensive play over the last week or so has been phenomenal. In almost two full seasons in the bigs, this is the best week that KK has had with the glove.

Pads win 7 of last 13 against playoff contenders. Nice. Enjoyed the Pads scaring the heck out of the Brewers all weekend.

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]]> By: Kevin http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/09/the-perils-of-projecting.html/comment-page-1#comment-263722 Kevin Sun, 07 Sep 2008 19:43:57 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2726#comment-263722 #18@<a href="#comment-263459" rel="nofollow">dennis</a>: I don't know that he "wants to play every day."<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-263722">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> #18@dennis: I don’t know that he “wants to play every day.”

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]]> By: Masticore317 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/09/the-perils-of-projecting.html/comment-page-1#comment-263514 Masticore317 Sun, 07 Sep 2008 15:28:58 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2726#comment-263514 #18@<a href="#comment-263459" rel="nofollow">dennis</a>: While I don't disagree, some of the blame has to be on team management for using him the way they do. Sure, maybe he could be in better shape, but the bottom line is they need to use him properly for the shape that he's actually in now.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-263514">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> #18@dennis: While I don’t disagree, some of the blame has to be on team management for using him the way they do. Sure, maybe he could be in better shape, but the bottom line is they need to use him properly for the shape that he’s actually in now.

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]]> By: dennis http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/09/the-perils-of-projecting.html/comment-page-1#comment-263459 dennis Sun, 07 Sep 2008 14:26:49 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2726#comment-263459 Will San Diego fans give Adrian a pass on his conditioning like we gave TG? If he really wants to play every day he needs to perform at a more consistent level week to week. He really would benefit from an off-season program that emphasizes lower body strength and agility. Most of the time he looks like the beer league softball player, great hands and instincts for the game, but he seldom bends at the knees or runs hard on a ground ball. A strong base and core is essential to speed, quickness, and the ability to sustain peak performance levels over time. As great as TG was he hurt himself and SD fans over time by carrying too much weight on his frame. I hope Adrian takes a page from LT's book and hires an elite trainer to make him even better.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-263459">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> Will San Diego fans give Adrian a pass on his conditioning like we gave TG? If he really wants to play every day he needs to perform at a more consistent level week to week. He really would benefit from an off-season program that emphasizes lower body strength and agility. Most of the time he looks like the beer league softball player, great hands and instincts for the game, but he seldom bends at the knees or runs hard on a ground ball. A strong base and core is essential to speed, quickness, and the ability to sustain peak performance levels over time. As great as TG was he hurt himself and SD fans over time by carrying too much weight on his frame. I hope Adrian takes a page from LT’s book and hires an elite trainer to make him even better.

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]]> By: SDSUBaseball http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/09/the-perils-of-projecting.html/comment-page-1#comment-263014 SDSUBaseball Sun, 07 Sep 2008 05:07:22 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2726#comment-263014 #16@<a href="#comment-262821" rel="nofollow">Tom Waits</a>: Why even play him at this point. He should be getting a couple day off a week. Kouz should be rotating to 1B and Headley to 3B so we can try out more of these kids in the OF.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-263014">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> #16@Tom Waits: Why even play him at this point. He should be getting a couple day off a week. Kouz should be rotating to 1B and Headley to 3B so we can try out more of these kids in the OF.

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]]> By: Tom Waits http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/09/the-perils-of-projecting.html/comment-page-1#comment-262821 Tom Waits Sun, 07 Sep 2008 01:12:12 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2726#comment-262821 Agon goes 0-4 with 3 strikeouts against a righty, those 3 k's representing almost half of Sheets' total. Is there much question that he's tired?<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-262821">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> Agon goes 0-4 with 3 strikeouts against a righty, those 3 k’s representing almost half of Sheets’ total. Is there much question that he’s tired?

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]]> By: Tom Waits http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/09/the-perils-of-projecting.html/comment-page-1#comment-262790 Tom Waits Sun, 07 Sep 2008 00:36:20 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2726#comment-262790 #14@<a href="#comment-262733" rel="nofollow">Kevin</a>: Black also said last year that he should have given Hombre more time off, because in June and July he was hitting like a utility player. Last season in hit him mid-year, but if they keep Kouzmanoff, they need to move him to 1b every once in a while. Buster Olney reported in his blog that the Padres were livid when OG used his no-trade clause. If that's true, which is a big if......it's their own dang fault. They waited to move him until after the waiver deadline. They gave him the NT clause in the first place. If they really wanted to move him, they had 3 million bucks to kick in so they could avoid the worst-case scenario, which is paying him to go away next year and getting nothing in return.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-262790">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> #14@Kevin: Black also said last year that he should have given Hombre more time off, because in June and July he was hitting like a utility player. Last season in hit him mid-year, but if they keep Kouzmanoff, they need to move him to 1b every once in a while.

Buster Olney reported in his blog that the Padres were livid when OG used his no-trade clause. If that’s true, which is a big if……it’s their own dang fault. They waited to move him until after the waiver deadline. They gave him the NT clause in the first place. If they really wanted to move him, they had 3 million bucks to kick in so they could avoid the worst-case scenario, which is paying him to go away next year and getting nothing in return.

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