Comments on: Partly Focused, with a Ten Percent Chance of Useful http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/09/partly-focused-with-a-ten-percent-chance-of-useful.html Blogging the San Diego Padres baseball club. Established 1997. Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:28:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Kevin http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/09/partly-focused-with-a-ten-percent-chance-of-useful.html/comment-page-1#comment-273194 Kevin Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:09:28 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2743#comment-273194 I don't think Adrian should be rested based on this season (although it could be the beginning of a trend). I don't think any player or almost any player should play more than 155 games in a season. Maybe 150.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-273194">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> I don’t think Adrian should be rested based on this season (although it could be the beginning of a trend). I don’t think any player or almost any player should play more than 155 games in a season. Maybe 150.

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]]> By: JP http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/09/partly-focused-with-a-ten-percent-chance-of-useful.html/comment-page-1#comment-272086 JP Fri, 12 Sep 2008 04:42:48 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2743#comment-272086 Macias has a pretty nice swing and sprays to all fields, not to mention his good defensive work. The Pads may want to protect him on the 40 man roster after all. This crappy year hasn't been all bad and may help in the long run, giving a cat like Macias a 20 game look would have been highly improbable in anything other than a 90+ loss season -<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-272086">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> Macias has a pretty nice swing and sprays to all fields, not to mention his good defensive work. The Pads may want to protect him on the 40 man roster after all.

This crappy year hasn’t been all bad and may help in the long run, giving a cat like Macias a 20 game look would have been highly improbable in anything other than a 90+ loss season -

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]]> By: SDSUBaseball http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/09/partly-focused-with-a-ten-percent-chance-of-useful.html/comment-page-1#comment-271992 SDSUBaseball Fri, 12 Sep 2008 03:34:19 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2743#comment-271992 #11@<a href="#comment-271958" rel="nofollow">Geoff Young</a>: Agreed. He was a good pitcher in college, it was interesting that he went underrated. He has had a great K-rate all through the minors. He is old, but so is Baek. He is worth giving a shot.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-271992">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> #11@Geoff Young: Agreed. He was a good pitcher in college, it was interesting that he went underrated. He has had a great K-rate all through the minors. He is old, but so is Baek. He is worth giving a shot.

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]]> By: Geoff Young http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/09/partly-focused-with-a-ten-percent-chance-of-useful.html/comment-page-1#comment-271958 Geoff Young Fri, 12 Sep 2008 03:10:59 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2743#comment-271958 #5@<a href="#comment-271168" rel="nofollow">DM</a>: You can see a player's individual game logs at Baseball-Reference. Here's Adrian's from 2007: http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/gl.cgi?n1=gonzaad01&year=2007&t=b Looks like the first time he didn't play was July 5, Game #85 on the season. #9@<a href="#comment-271622" rel="nofollow">Johnny Utah</a>: Nice... #10@<a href="#comment-271794" rel="nofollow">SDSUBaseball</a>: Patterson is a good example of scouring unexpected sources for talent. He didn't play affiliated ball until age 27: http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/P/scott-patterson.shtml He might not be anything, but what's the harm in finding out?<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-271958">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> #5@DM: You can see a player’s individual game logs at Baseball-Reference. Here’s Adrian’s from 2007:

http://www.baseball-reference......7&t=b

Looks like the first time he didn’t play was July 5, Game #85 on the season.

#9@Johnny Utah: Nice…

#10@SDSUBaseball: Patterson is a good example of scouring unexpected sources for talent. He didn’t play affiliated ball until age 27:

http://www.thebaseballcube.com.....rson.shtml

He might not be anything, but what’s the harm in finding out?

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]]> By: SDSUBaseball http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/09/partly-focused-with-a-ten-percent-chance-of-useful.html/comment-page-1#comment-271794 SDSUBaseball Fri, 12 Sep 2008 01:07:07 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2743#comment-271794 Padres also claimed Scott Patterson off waivers from the Yankees. He has put up some impressive minor league numbers.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-271794">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> Padres also claimed Scott Patterson off waivers from the Yankees. He has put up some impressive minor league numbers.

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]]> By: Johnny Utah http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/09/partly-focused-with-a-ten-percent-chance-of-useful.html/comment-page-1#comment-271622 Johnny Utah Thu, 11 Sep 2008 23:01:11 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2743#comment-271622 I like how Simers makes fun of San Diego's football program... kinda like a double amputee making fun of someone's limp...<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-271622">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> I like how Simers makes fun of San Diego’s football program… kinda like a double amputee making fun of someone’s limp…

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]]> By: Schlom http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/09/partly-focused-with-a-ten-percent-chance-of-useful.html/comment-page-1#comment-271395 Schlom Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:16:05 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2743#comment-271395 I'm pretty excited (or as excited as you can be with a waiver claim) about the Padres pickup of Charlie Haeger. First of all, major league baseball needs more knuckleball pitchers. Secondly, knuckleball pitchers have traditionally been late bloomers and Haeger is 24. Finally, he seems like the type of pitcher the Padres should target as he's a flyball pitcher (groundball % of 41 the past two seasons). And it's not like the Padres have any better starting pitcher candidates except for Peavy and Young. The only possible drawback is that it appears that Bard can't catch a knuckleball but who knows if he will be here next season?<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-271395">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> I’m pretty excited (or as excited as you can be with a waiver claim) about the Padres pickup of Charlie Haeger. First of all, major league baseball needs more knuckleball pitchers. Secondly, knuckleball pitchers have traditionally been late bloomers and Haeger is 24. Finally, he seems like the type of pitcher the Padres should target as he’s a flyball pitcher (groundball % of 41 the past two seasons). And it’s not like the Padres have any better starting pitcher candidates except for Peavy and Young. The only possible drawback is that it appears that Bard can’t catch a knuckleball but who knows if he will be here next season?

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]]> By: Didi http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/09/partly-focused-with-a-ten-percent-chance-of-useful.html/comment-page-1#comment-271361 Didi Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:50:52 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2743#comment-271361 Wouldn't it be something if Haeger works out to be in the rotation and Bard is his personal catcher? I can see that happening if Hundley ended up being the starter and Bard is the backup next season.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-271361">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> Wouldn’t it be something if Haeger works out to be in the rotation and Bard is his personal catcher? I can see that happening if Hundley ended up being the starter and Bard is the backup next season.

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]]> By: JMAR http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/09/partly-focused-with-a-ten-percent-chance-of-useful.html/comment-page-1#comment-271264 JMAR Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:44:19 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2743#comment-271264 If the Padres really are going to cut payroll into the mid-$50 million range, which KT has acknowledged could happen, then Padre fans need to get used to the idea of having Baek in the rotation next season. Baek is probably the leading candidate for the #3 spot right now. Scary, but true. Of course, things could change quickly in the offseason. I'm guessing KT will try and trade Kouz or maybe even Kyle Blanks for a #3 starter but I don't see them signing a mid-market free agent veteran again like Maddux or Wolf for the #4 role. That means that Baek is a good bet to begin 2009 as the team's #3 or 4 starter. I love him as a #5 starter. Over the years, not many Padre pitchers have shown his ability to pitch deep into games, throw strikes, and shut down good hitting teams. He's done it at least 6 or 7 times this season now. BUT, as a #3 or 4 starter, he's going to kill us unless he can become more consistent. I still don't think he's put together more than 2 good starts in a row this season. He's still much better than any #5 starter we've had in years. As for AGON, I'm also perplexed at how his production has declined over the last few months. He had the one bad month in '07 (mid-June thru mid-July) but he finished strong. I figured he just had a nagging injury that he was trying to play through. Of course, he had Milton Bradley batting in front of him down the stretch last season, which seemed to revitalize him. I can't imagine he's getting much to hit these days. Maybe he just doesn't feel a need to draw walks at this point of the season and is expanding the zone.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-271264">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> If the Padres really are going to cut payroll into the mid-$50 million range, which KT has acknowledged could happen, then Padre fans need to get used to the idea of having Baek in the rotation next season. Baek is probably the leading candidate for the #3 spot right now. Scary, but true.

Of course, things could change quickly in the offseason. I’m guessing KT will try and trade Kouz or maybe even Kyle Blanks for a #3 starter but I don’t see them signing a mid-market free agent veteran again like Maddux or Wolf for the #4 role. That means that Baek is a good bet to begin 2009 as the team’s #3 or 4 starter.

I love him as a #5 starter. Over the years, not many Padre pitchers have shown his ability to pitch deep into games, throw strikes, and shut down good hitting teams. He’s done it at least 6 or 7 times this season now.

BUT, as a #3 or 4 starter, he’s going to kill us unless he can become more consistent. I still don’t think he’s put together more than 2 good starts in a row this season. He’s still much better than any #5 starter we’ve had in years.

As for AGON, I’m also perplexed at how his production has declined over the last few months. He had the one bad month in ‘07 (mid-June thru mid-July) but he finished strong. I figured he just had a nagging injury that he was trying to play through. Of course, he had Milton Bradley batting in front of him down the stretch last season, which seemed to revitalize him. I can’t imagine he’s getting much to hit these days. Maybe he just doesn’t feel a need to draw walks at this point of the season and is expanding the zone.

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]]> By: DM http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/09/partly-focused-with-a-ten-percent-chance-of-useful.html/comment-page-1#comment-271168 DM Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:32:14 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2743#comment-271168 If I can recall correctly, Adrian did actually did have a similar slide last year. I believe that he got one of his first rest days in Jul but I do not know where to check that out. Apr: .909 May: .891 Jun: .720 Jul: .685 Aug:.969 Sept: .886 I think it was that slump in Jul that convinced buddy black that he had been playing Adrian too much.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-271168">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> If I can recall correctly, Adrian did actually did have a similar slide last year. I believe that he got one of his first rest days in Jul but I do not know where to check that out.

Apr: .909
May: .891
Jun: .720
Jul: .685
Aug:.969
Sept: .886

I think it was that slump in Jul that convinced buddy black that he had been playing Adrian too much.

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