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		<title>By: Tom Waits</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Waits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#87@&lt;a href="#comment-226399" rel="nofollow"&gt;Bruce&lt;/a&gt;: That's a big gap. Good for Kipnis that he's confident enough to believe he can be a first-rounder next year. 

#86@&lt;a href="#comment-226373" rel="nofollow"&gt;Steve C&lt;/a&gt;: They were ~200K apart with Darnell a few weeks back.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-226409"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#87@<a href="#comment-226399" rel="nofollow">Bruce</a>: That&#8217;s a big gap. Good for Kipnis that he&#8217;s confident enough to believe he can be a first-rounder next year. </p>
<p>#86@<a href="#comment-226373" rel="nofollow">Steve C</a>: They were ~200K apart with Darnell a few weeks back.
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#85@&lt;a href="#comment-226316" rel="nofollow"&gt;Tom Waits&lt;/a&gt;: I am not sure Kipnis rates highly enough at this point to throw an extra $600K at him, especially if he believes that he will be one of the stars of a replenishing ASU team.

#86@&lt;a href="#comment-226373" rel="nofollow"&gt;Steve C&lt;/a&gt;: Fair enough on the money.  No one really knows what's going on.

Dykstra better be suffering from something fierce though.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-226399"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#85@<a href="#comment-226316" rel="nofollow">Tom Waits</a>: I am not sure Kipnis rates highly enough at this point to throw an extra $600K at him, especially if he believes that he will be one of the stars of a replenishing ASU team.</p>
<p>#86@<a href="#comment-226373" rel="nofollow">Steve C</a>: Fair enough on the money.  No one really knows what&#8217;s going on.</p>
<p>Dykstra better be suffering from something fierce though.
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		<title>By: Steve C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#83@&lt;a href="#comment-226167" rel="nofollow"&gt;Bruce&lt;/a&gt;: I think all the money in which the team spends at this point is beeing looked at under the same microscope at the moment.

#85@&lt;a href="#comment-226316" rel="nofollow"&gt;Tom Waits&lt;/a&gt;: Good to hear about Darnell for some reason I thought that they were still really far apart maybe I eas thinking of Kipins.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-226373"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#83@<a href="#comment-226167" rel="nofollow">Bruce</a>: I think all the money in which the team spends at this point is beeing looked at under the same microscope at the moment.</p>
<p>#85@<a href="#comment-226316" rel="nofollow">Tom Waits</a>: Good to hear about Darnell for some reason I thought that they were still really far apart maybe I eas thinking of Kipins.
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		<title>By: Tom Waits</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Waits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#83@&lt;a href="#comment-226167" rel="nofollow"&gt;Bruce&lt;/a&gt;: 
#82@&lt;a href="#comment-226149" rel="nofollow"&gt;Steve C&lt;/a&gt;: 

Today's UT has a story about the draftees. Fuson says the Darnell negotiations have picked up and he's "anxiously optimistic" a deal will get done. 

And that may be it. They're 600K apart with Kipnis. The story doesn't even mention Mooneyham. And as cold-hearted as it sounds, if Dykstra's hip (or other) condition is as dangerous as the Padres seem to believe, they have no incentive to sign him even for $1. That forfeits their 09 pick.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-226316"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#83@<a href="#comment-226167" rel="nofollow">Bruce</a>:<br />
#82@<a href="#comment-226149" rel="nofollow">Steve C</a>: </p>
<p>Today&#8217;s UT has a story about the draftees. Fuson says the Darnell negotiations have picked up and he&#8217;s &#8220;anxiously optimistic&#8221; a deal will get done. </p>
<p>And that may be it. They&#8217;re 600K apart with Kipnis. The story doesn&#8217;t even mention Mooneyham. And as cold-hearted as it sounds, if Dykstra&#8217;s hip (or other) condition is as dangerous as the Padres seem to believe, they have no incentive to sign him even for $1. That forfeits their 09 pick.
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		<title>By: Tom Waits</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Waits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#70@&lt;a href="#comment-226031" rel="nofollow"&gt;SDSUBaseball&lt;/a&gt;: Neither do I. Ben and I have been agreeing on that all along. 

#72@&lt;a href="#comment-226079" rel="nofollow"&gt;JP&lt;/a&gt;: Not for 2009. It's a risk, but it's 6m, 1 year. 

#83@&lt;a href="#comment-226167" rel="nofollow"&gt;Bruce&lt;/a&gt;: Yes.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-226305"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#70@<a href="#comment-226031" rel="nofollow">SDSUBaseball</a>: Neither do I. Ben and I have been agreeing on that all along. </p>
<p>#72@<a href="#comment-226079" rel="nofollow">JP</a>: Not for 2009. It&#8217;s a risk, but it&#8217;s 6m, 1 year. </p>
<p>#83@<a href="#comment-226167" rel="nofollow">Bruce</a>: Yes.
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 06:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#82@&lt;a href="#comment-226149" rel="nofollow"&gt;Steve C&lt;/a&gt;: If the Padres don't sign Dykstra and can't convince Mooneyham to forgo Stanford, then there is no reason why they shouldn't be able to sign Darnell, even if it means giving him an offer above slot.  They would be able to draw from Dykstra's 1.4M available to use out of their already allotted draft budget.  Giles' and Maddux's salaries shouldn't even enter the equation in any case.  Kipnis' status as a draft eligible sophomore has made him the most unlikely signing aside from Mooneyham.

If they don't end up signing any one of them, then this will go down as one of the biggest draft debacles in team history this side of Matt Bush, even considering the possibility that they discovered some serious unforeseen health condition with regard to Dykstra.  To not sign your 2 and 4 picks with first found draft money still available in such a case would be inexcusable.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-226167"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#82@<a href="#comment-226149" rel="nofollow">Steve C</a>: If the Padres don&#8217;t sign Dykstra and can&#8217;t convince Mooneyham to forgo Stanford, then there is no reason why they shouldn&#8217;t be able to sign Darnell, even if it means giving him an offer above slot.  They would be able to draw from Dykstra&#8217;s 1.4M available to use out of their already allotted draft budget.  Giles&#8217; and Maddux&#8217;s salaries shouldn&#8217;t even enter the equation in any case.  Kipnis&#8217; status as a draft eligible sophomore has made him the most unlikely signing aside from Mooneyham.</p>
<p>If they don&#8217;t end up signing any one of them, then this will go down as one of the biggest draft debacles in team history this side of Matt Bush, even considering the possibility that they discovered some serious unforeseen health condition with regard to Dykstra.  To not sign your 2 and 4 picks with first found draft money still available in such a case would be inexcusable.
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		<title>By: Steve C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 05:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#63@&lt;a href="#comment-225983" rel="nofollow"&gt;LynchMob&lt;/a&gt;: I think they may sign Darnell and Kipnis (although I think Darnell is unlikely) but I think they are already looking to the 09 draft with Dykstra's pick and I dont see them giving  Mooneyham 7 figures...

Darnell will be tought because I dont see the pads going above slot at this point (espeacialy since they could not dump maddux or Gile's salary) so I think Darnell will just go back to college for a year and try to get more money next year.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-226149"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#63@<a href="#comment-225983" rel="nofollow">LynchMob</a>: I think they may sign Darnell and Kipnis (although I think Darnell is unlikely) but I think they are already looking to the 09 draft with Dykstra&#8217;s pick and I dont see them giving  Mooneyham 7 figures&#8230;</p>
<p>Darnell will be tought because I dont see the pads going above slot at this point (espeacialy since they could not dump maddux or Gile&#8217;s salary) so I think Darnell will just go back to college for a year and try to get more money next year.
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		<title>By: LynchMob</title>
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		<dc:creator>LynchMob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 05:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#71@&lt;a href="#comment-226070" rel="nofollow"&gt;Field39&lt;/a&gt;: Organizational soldier ... already ...

#75@&lt;a href="#comment-226093" rel="nofollow"&gt;Field39&lt;/a&gt;: 'cept Nick's name isn't Todd ...&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-226142"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#71@<a href="#comment-226070" rel="nofollow">Field39</a>: Organizational soldier &#8230; already &#8230;</p>
<p>#75@<a href="#comment-226093" rel="nofollow">Field39</a>: &#8216;cept Nick&#8217;s name isn&#8217;t Todd &#8230;
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 04:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think catcher is the biggest concern among the eight positions for next year. That may be too obvious of a statement.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-226132"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think catcher is the biggest concern among the eight positions for next year. That may be too obvious of a statement.
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		<title>By: JP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 03:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#78@&lt;a href="#comment-226103" rel="nofollow"&gt;Field39&lt;/a&gt;: You're probably right--I always seem to forget that he can't throw out runners either - must be because until recently, I assumed that it was mostly the Padre's pitchers who were at fault.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-226110"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#78@<a href="#comment-226103" rel="nofollow">Field39</a>: You&#8217;re probably right&#8211;I always seem to forget that he can&#8217;t throw out runners either - must be because until recently, I assumed that it was mostly the Padre&#8217;s pitchers who were at fault.
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