Comments on: IGD: Padres vs Giants (3 Aug 08)

By: JP

JP — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:43:42 +0000

#39@Tom Waits: Yes, no doubt about it, Gerut has had a significantly better year offensively than Cameron. Also, I am glad we are finding out about Edgar Gonzalez. His VORP (7.20) has dropped pretty significantly (partly because he is in the midst of a 2 for 34 slump) and because he doesn't field well, the jury is still out as to whether he is an everyday player.

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By: Tom Waits

Tom Waits — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 12:52:25 +0000

#37@JP: 103 OPS+ playing a very good CF in a tough park almost every day (151 games, with a week lost to Jenga). 22 Win Shares in 2007, 3rd among NL CF. I’d say that’s very good.

Cameron going was not entirely under the Padres control. I don’t see how we can blame the Padres when his agent told them the minimum deal was more than what he eventually settled for. You can’t force him to sign. Since his suspension overlapped the dark Edmonds period, and he’s been outplayed by both Gerut and Hairston, keeping Cameron wouldn’t have done much for us this year.

#36@JP: It makes the Padres insistence on not trading him rather baffling. Maybe the deal wasn’t there and they’re trying to preserve leverage, but he’s always going to be limited until he gets control of the zone.

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By: Tom Waits

Tom Waits — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 12:38:13 +0000

#30@LoyalSufferer: 400 at-bats when a full season is over 600. In both years he was below-average against RHP. It was only by limiting his appearances against them that his hitting against LHP made his overall OPS+ good.

Until you can explain what “long-term thinking” means, there’s not much point. If it means “I don’t care what happened before, I only care what’s happening now,” then it’s a silly stand to take. Long-term thinking doesn’t mean holding onto players until the last possible second. The Padres didn’t need Nady to play an adequate LF in 2006 and 2007. So again, it comes down to thinking that having a player in 2008 and 2009 is somehow more valuable than having a player in 2006 and 2007.

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By: JP

JP — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 07:23:02 +0000

#9@Tom Waits: Do you really think Cameron was a “very good” everyday CF ? What qualifies as very good ? Don’t misunderstand me, I would have done that Cameron trade for Nady again but if Cameron was “very good” in 2007 (103 OPS+ on ‘07) then should it not be considered a mistake to let him go ?

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By: JP

JP — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 07:05:09 +0000

Kevin Kouzmanoff has 15 walks. This is totally inexcusable. It obviously says a lot about his approach. Needless to say, Kouzmanoff has been a disappointment this year. Do you give him another year ?

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By: JP

JP — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 06:52:10 +0000

Its no mystery. At the end of the day, the reasons behind the Padres 95-100 loss 2008 season stem mainly from years of not developing enough talent in the minors. It finally caught up with the organization. Three good years out of the last decade (2004,2006, & 2007) with what amounts to a bad farm system is actually, when you think about it, fairly impressive. Hopefully things will turn around on the farm. I guess we really will not know until players start contributing on a consistent basis at the major league level.

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By: LynchMob

LynchMob — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 05:25:03 +0000

#31@Ben B.: Yes, it's good news that they are playing ... it will be better news when they are back to playing at their proper level ... baby steps, I s'pose ...

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By: LynchMob

LynchMob — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 05:24:03 +0000

#26@Lance Richardson: Thanks for the link … I s’pose … he took the words right out of my mouth

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By: LynchMob

LynchMob — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 05:18:26 +0000

Kulbacki with HR #20 for the Storm tonight …

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....a_bakafa_1

… and HR #6 from Cedric Hunter!

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By: Ben B.

Ben B. — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 04:38:21 +0000

Some good news in the minor leagues today: Drew Cumberland and Mat Latos both played in an AZL game. Latos pitched two innings and Cumberland was 2-4 with a triple before being taken out in the sixth inning.

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