Wed, Aug 6, 2008
by Geoff Young
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August 6, 2008 at 3:56 pm
For your pre-game entertainment, I’ll carry-over one thought from this morning’s thread on Lake Elsinore …
As first noted here by Melvin Nieves a couple of days ago, there’s a new place to go to see minor league stats …
http://www.baseballprospectus......noreqa.php
… in addition to “real stats” it also has “regular translation” (for thinks like park effects) *and* has what it calls “peak translation” (but has been better described as “peak projection”, ie. a reasonable estimate of what each player’s stats would/will translate to as a 27-year-old major leaguer) … which, to me, is a *very* interesting perspective!!!
For example, here’s 3 of our boyz from amongst the Cal League leaders …
Year Age Tm Lge AB H DB TP HR BB SO R RBI SB CS Out BA OBA SA EQA EQR BABIP POW Krt
Kellen_Kulbacki 2008 22 LEL Cal 287 86 11 0 18 39 51 49 50 0 2 205 .300 .389 .530 .307 53 312 275 156 62-RF -1
Cedric_Hunter 2008 20 LEL Cal 479 142 28 2 11 48 36 83 62 7 4 349 .296 .358 .430 .276 70 303 147 68 100-CF -1
Eric_Sogard 2008 22 LEL Cal 435 122 27 2 10 64 56 73 60 5 4 321 .280 .371 .418 .278 65 304 161 112 83-2B -4
ps. the “pre” function used to work … but now it doesn’t seem to … whassup?
August 6, 2008 at 4:13 pm
JODY GERUT!!!
Bomb!!
First pitch of the game…
WoooHooo
August 6, 2008 at 4:14 pm
Jody’s bat has really gotten hot lately!
August 6, 2008 at 4:15 pm
Gerut and Hairston have really helped the offense. Gerut says he wants to stay a Padre, which is nice.
LM, I wonder if the Preview feature was causing some of the slow site times we saw a while back?
August 6, 2008 at 4:16 pm
And OG goes yard. Holy Santa Maria!
August 6, 2008 at 4:16 pm
Boom goes the dynamite!
August 6, 2008 at 4:17 pm
GILES….BOMB…WOOOHOOO
MAKE IT 2-0 PADS!!!
Walla Walla Bing Bang
August 6, 2008 at 4:19 pm
Stay calm … everybody just stay calm …
August 6, 2008 at 4:20 pm
We can’t have anybody FREAKIN OUT
August 6, 2008 at 4:26 pm
#8@LynchMob: I don’t get to watch many Pads games…I can freak out when I want to.
Like right now…
How do you boot that ball? C’mon EGon, you look like me out there…with more facial hair…and shorter…and darker skin/hair…and not as good looking.
August 6, 2008 at 4:32 pm
#10@Coronado Mike: Sorry, Mike. I’ve seen you on your blog and Edgar is much better looking.
August 6, 2008 at 4:32 pm
#10@Coronado Mike: I just want you to make it thru today’s game … thru this season … we’re gonna need all of us to be 100% for 2009
August 6, 2008 at 4:38 pm
#11@Pat: But you clearly did not read his latest entry … evil, indeed!
August 6, 2008 at 4:47 pm
Thru 2 full …
Pitches-strikes - C Baek 30-20; P Martinez 37-22.
Ground balls-fly balls - C Baek 3-1; P Martinez 4-1.
Batters faced - C Baek 9; P Martinez 8.
August 6, 2008 at 4:47 pm
Fox Sports is reporting that Brian Giles was claimed on waivers by an unknown team. My initial thought was that they try to pass everyone through just to keep their options open. However, sources say the Padres want to make a trade with that team, but it is also not yet known if the team is willing to give up a player for Giles. Interesting.
August 6, 2008 at 4:47 pm
Fox Sports is reporting that Brian Giles was claimed on waivers by an unknown team. My initial thought was that they try to pass everyone through just to keep their options open. However, sources say the Padres want to make a trade with that team, but it is also not yet known if the team is willing to give up a player for Giles. Interesting.
August 6, 2008 at 4:51 pm
I was on the Hairston bandwagon a few months ago. Now I’m on the Gerut bandwagon.
I didn’t realize Gerut was a FA at the end of the season. With his lack of major league service time, I figured he would be up for arbitration or something. If he continues to hit like this, the Pads are going to end up in a bidding war for him, which is not good. Since he says he loves it here, I think they should try and get him signed ASAP while his price tag is still affordable and other teams can’t bid for him.
August 6, 2008 at 5:11 pm
#16@JMAR: just saw that…I wonder if there’s actually something to it or if it’s just one of the many waiver wire games that go on.
August 6, 2008 at 5:14 pm
hairston is to july what gerut is to august?
August 6, 2008 at 5:17 pm
#11@Pat: Well, if short dark and handsome does it for you, then EGon is your man!
#16@JMAR: Very interesting. I would think that it makes sense to keep OG, but maybe there is something that we all don’t know.
August 6, 2008 at 5:19 pm
Antonelli with 2 hits today to get up to .202 …
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....p;did=milb
… hey, it’s a start! A passed-ball by Carlin allows 3 unearned runs
There’s growing data to support a Sept look-see for Ciofrone … who was on NO ONE’s radar screen even just a couple of months ago … but is now sporting a .324 / .399 / .515 line in 75 games at Portland. Seems like he’s a super candidate for 2009’s “utility infielder” …
August 6, 2008 at 5:20 pm
Inman pitching for San Antonio tonight …
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....x_sanaax_1
August 6, 2008 at 5:22 pm
I want to run a foot race against Bard.
And Mike Piazza.
And AGon.
August 6, 2008 at 5:24 pm
Think Gerut was looking for a FB, but got the change instead?
Whoops.
August 6, 2008 at 5:24 pm
Black has had a knack for using Hairston and Gerut well. I don’t see why that should stop next season.
August 6, 2008 at 5:28 pm
Big AB by EGon there…he laid off the first outside CB to run the count full. That was a tough pitch. Good job.
August 6, 2008 at 5:29 pm
Now’s the time for OG to go yard.
August 6, 2008 at 5:30 pm
#27@Turbine Dude: Not quite far enough…
August 6, 2008 at 5:36 pm
Damn ducksnort to drive in a run.
August 6, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Ouch…Edgar…
August 6, 2008 at 5:37 pm
dammit e-gon!
August 6, 2008 at 5:38 pm
Is that 3 boots by EGon?
Tough night…Pokey Reese
August 6, 2008 at 5:38 pm
Okay, that was a nasty hop…
August 6, 2008 at 5:39 pm
WTF? This is like the twilight zone!
August 6, 2008 at 5:40 pm
I don’t know what Wright was thinking, but I’ll take it.
August 6, 2008 at 5:41 pm
#35@Turbine Dude: I wonder what the first base coach was thinking when Wright just took off for 2B??? I would have loved to have a mic on him for that!
August 6, 2008 at 5:42 pm
Thru 5 …
Pitches-strikes - C Baek 75-48; P Martinez 79-46.
Ground balls-fly balls - C Baek 7-5; P Martinez 8-5.
Batters faced - C Baek 23; P Martinez 21.
… looks all square to me … 2 E’s by Edgar hurt …
August 6, 2008 at 5:44 pm
#36@Masticore317: I would have loved to have a mic on him in the dugout afterwards!
August 6, 2008 at 5:47 pm
OT … DePo blog’d about the Lake Elsinore Storm yesterday …
http://itmightbedangerous.blog.....inore.html
August 6, 2008 at 5:54 pm
#38@Turbine Dude: no doubt!
Interesting…sending Pedro up to hit after 6 decent innings and 93 pitches.
August 6, 2008 at 5:55 pm
#40@Masticore317: The Met announcers are also saying they agree with the move due to the poor state of the Met bullpen. Ouch…they basically just threw the Met bullpen under the bus.
August 6, 2008 at 5:57 pm
13 pitchers still…I’m guessing we see Myrow PH this inning and then go to the pen.
August 6, 2008 at 6:00 pm
holy crap rodriguez got a hit!
August 6, 2008 at 6:01 pm
#42@Masticore317: I guess that shoes what I know. Beak is up. Why we don’t PH with a 8 man bullpen and Beak on 89 pitches is beyond me though.
August 6, 2008 at 6:01 pm
sorry for the semi-swear word, couldn’t help myxelf
August 6, 2008 at 6:07 pm
Gerut has quietly put together a great season. It seems like he’s all the way back to where he was as a rookie. BP’s translated stats (neutral park) has Gerut as 316/384/498, better than his (untranslated) 279/336/494 rookie season.
Or to use OPS+, +121 for this year compared to +120 for 2003.
August 6, 2008 at 6:07 pm
Come on, Edgar!! Get an RBI.
August 6, 2008 at 6:09 pm
OG! OG! OG! go! Go! GO!
August 6, 2008 at 6:10 pm
Speaking of Edgar, the “Edgar V. Gonzalez” thing is hilarious. Edgar said on XX earlier in the season that the middle name of Victor was totally made up by MLB to differentiate him from the other Edgar Gonzalez.
August 6, 2008 at 6:12 pm
thank you david wright
August 6, 2008 at 6:12 pm
#48@Didi: Sounds like something from one of those Anime movies.
August 6, 2008 at 6:12 pm
Let’s go Adrian! Put a charge into one.
August 6, 2008 at 6:13 pm
#49@Masticore317: that’s hysterical. what is his real middle name?
August 6, 2008 at 6:14 pm
Time to bring up the pen, right? Right! Baek should be done now.
August 6, 2008 at 6:15 pm
#53@Nick G: Edgar said he has no middle name. So they (MLB) made one up. I believe he said originally it was just the initial V, and then somehow later it became Victor.
August 6, 2008 at 6:15 pm
51: Whatever works. Isn’t OG an anime character?
August 6, 2008 at 6:18 pm
#56@Didi: Might as well be!
August 6, 2008 at 6:20 pm
#55@Masticore317: To clarify, Edgar was born without a middle name. Originally MLB started using the letter V, and later MLB changed the V to Victor.
August 6, 2008 at 6:23 pm
Starting pitcher leaves the game with runners on. We know what happens next.
August 6, 2008 at 6:25 pm
#59@Field39: still not sure why Beak was left in to hit for himself and then to pitch the 7th…
August 6, 2008 at 6:31 pm
Headley with a shot to make it 4-2!
August 6, 2008 at 6:32 pm
welcome to the show, kid
August 6, 2008 at 6:32 pm
OK, that helps. Two run lead still doesn’t give me a warm fuzzy feeling.
August 6, 2008 at 6:34 pm
#60@Masticore317: Having Baek PH and then pitch in the 7th inning was a mistake … pure and simple … bad process …
August 6, 2008 at 6:34 pm
What’s up with Rayner Contreras? Suspended?
August 6, 2008 at 6:35 pm
BTW, Eddie Kunz, now pitching for the Mets, was an Oregon St teammate of Mitch Canham … and one that I saw pitch many times … and never once thought I’d see pitching in MLB some day … but you never know, I s’pose …
August 6, 2008 at 6:36 pm
mets announcers say HR given up by Kunz was his firs since his freshman year at Oregon state
August 6, 2008 at 6:36 pm
#62@Nick G: they’re saying how this Kunz guy hasn’t given up a HR in 3 years (until Headley hits one in the guy’s MLB debut - ouch!).
#64@LynchMob: that’s sure what it seems like.
August 6, 2008 at 6:36 pm
OT … Dogs cough up a 5-spot …
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore?gid=280806124
… 4 of them on a Pujols grannie … now lead 8-3 after 4 …
August 6, 2008 at 6:37 pm
#67@Nick G: oops - beat me to it!
August 6, 2008 at 6:41 pm
#51@Masticore317: It’s Yu-Gi-Oh!
August 6, 2008 at 6:42 pm
#68@Masticore317: Kunz’ MLB debut was Aug 3rd … fyi …
August 6, 2008 at 6:48 pm
#72@LynchMob: Oops! I must have misheard the announcers.
#71@Kevin: There you go. Dragon Ball Z? I still don’t know what that means.
August 6, 2008 at 6:49 pm
Hoffman vs the top of the order in the bottom of the 9th … I’m not comfortable … are you?
August 6, 2008 at 6:50 pm
If only there was a way for Hairston to ONLY bat in the 9th inning!
August 6, 2008 at 6:54 pm
#73@Masticore317: I don’t what that is, either.
August 6, 2008 at 6:54 pm
#74@LynchMob: Rather Hoffman than Merideth.
August 6, 2008 at 6:55 pm
#76@Kevin: I’ve got a friend who always talks about it. “Trunks, man, Trunks is always lurking and he’s evil”. I don’t get it. I wear trunks to swim, but I doubt that’s what he means.
August 6, 2008 at 6:56 pm
#77@Turbine Dude: Meredith is your favorite, eh?
August 6, 2008 at 6:58 pm
Scotty just used up the stolen base allotment, for August.
August 6, 2008 at 7:00 pm
#79@Masticore317: Ummm, yeah.
August 6, 2008 at 7:02 pm
Ok, Trevor…
Interesting…Trevor has only pitched 10.2 innings away from home this year.
August 6, 2008 at 7:04 pm
Nasty change there…ouch!
August 6, 2008 at 7:05 pm
Nice…game over.
August 6, 2008 at 7:05 pm
#79@Masticore317: Well, it paid off.
August 6, 2008 at 7:07 pm
Yippie! I am relieved!
August 6, 2008 at 7:08 pm
I’m glad to see Trevor finally get a good save and not struggle.
August 6, 2008 at 7:09 pm
#22@LynchMob: Inman with a good outing … 6 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 0 BB, 7 Ks …
August 6, 2008 at 7:30 pm
#15@JMAR: Let’s see what happens. I am favor of the move as long as we get something decent back. If we just let him go and save the money hoping that he will come back in the winter, I will be disappointed, as well as if we get some C level prospect. He’s an average, if slightly above average, OF, but signed at a below market rate.
It is almost certain that the player coming back has to be a minor leaguer right? Otherwise the player coming in the opposite direction would also have to clear waivers. Or does it not matter?
August 6, 2008 at 7:36 pm
#89@Bruce: Hey, I and DS just got mentioned by Scan on this topic on the Post Game Show.
August 6, 2008 at 7:38 pm
#89@Bruce: I believe the players on both sides would have to clear waivers unless they’re not on the 40 man roster.
August 6, 2008 at 7:41 pm
#89@Bruce: How can a player who is ninth in the league in on-base percentage be just “slightly above average”? And his defense this year has been excellent.
August 6, 2008 at 7:43 pm
#90@Turbine Dude: Heard it, pretty cool. Good to see your boy Merideth throw well.
August 6, 2008 at 8:06 pm
#89@Bruce: The kinds of players that pass through waivers (high salaried veterans) aren’t the kind of players the Padres would want back, so I have to think they would get minor leaguers that aren’t on the 40-man roster back. The good thing is that they can easily shop him in the offseason or just keep him for next season, so they can probably just pass on the deal unless the claiming team gives up some good talent.
#90@Turbine Dude: What did Scan say?
August 6, 2008 at 8:13 pm
#94@JMAR: Basically what you just said.
Scan and I e-mail each other back and forth quite often but he seldom uses it on air. And never my full name or a DS shout out. That was wierd. I had just walked back into my living room and Scan is saying my name and mentioning the blog.
August 6, 2008 at 8:17 pm
#95@Turbine Dude: Nice.
August 6, 2008 at 8:18 pm
Giles was traded to the Padres on Aug 26 2003. Does he become a 5 and 10 guy on the 26th of this month?
August 6, 2008 at 10:32 pm
#97@Field39:
I think that the 10 and 5 are tied to MLB service time, rather than calendar dates, but it would seem to me that OG has been in the majors the whole time, accumulating service time. I’d guess that he’d be a 10-5 guy this offseason. Of course, I could be entirely wrong.