Comments on: IGD: Padres @ Cardinals (17 Jul 08) http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/07/igd-padres-cardinals-17-jul-08.html Blogging the San Diego Padres baseball club. Established 1997. Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:09:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: parlo http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/07/igd-padres-cardinals-17-jul-08.html/comment-page-3#comment-212472 parlo Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:15:31 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2662#comment-212472 #108@<a href="#comment-212313" rel="nofollow">LynchMob</a>: I wasnt even thinking that far ahead. My point is that SA tends to speak to the fans as if they are idiots. It reminds me of that scene in Trading Places where the Duke brothers are explaining bacon to Eddie Murphy. "Bacon,.....as in a bacon and lettuce and tomato sandwich"<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-212472">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> #108@LynchMob: I wasnt even thinking that far ahead. My point is that SA tends to speak to the fans as if they are idiots. It reminds me of that scene in Trading Places where the Duke brothers are explaining bacon to Eddie Murphy.
“Bacon,…..as in a bacon and lettuce and tomato sandwich”

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]]> By: LynchMob http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/07/igd-padres-cardinals-17-jul-08.html/comment-page-3#comment-212313 LynchMob Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:00:44 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2662#comment-212313 #106@<a href="#comment-212290" rel="nofollow">Oside Jon</a>: #107@<a href="#comment-212299" rel="nofollow">parlo</a>: I think the point of what SA is saying is that it somehow contrasts with some things that others are saying ... he gets on the radio and the 1090 guys seem to want something different, don't they? ... fans who call in seem to want something different, don't they? Sounds like you both agree with what SA wants ... I know I agree with what SA wants ... it's the 1090 guys and the fans who call in and want something different that I don't understand. If what SA says doesn't make sense, then rag on him and tell us what does make sense ... but don't put him in a lose-lose situation by rag'ing on him for saying things that make sense (just because they seem like "common sense"). DePo addressed this last Friday ... and I'm a poor paraphraser, so interpret this more broadly than I present it ... he said something along the lines of "some people are saying that our emphasis on on-base percentage isn't working because we're in last place so the philosophy has to change ... when the reality is that our on-base percentage sucks and that's a key reason we are losing, which supports the philosophy that on-base percentage is a key factor in offensive success, we just need to execute on that philosophy better" ...<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-212313">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> #106@Oside Jon: #107@parlo: I think the point of what SA is saying is that it somehow contrasts with some things that others are saying … he gets on the radio and the 1090 guys seem to want something different, don’t they? … fans who call in seem to want something different, don’t they? Sounds like you both agree with what SA wants … I know I agree with what SA wants … it’s the 1090 guys and the fans who call in and want something different that I don’t understand. If what SA says doesn’t make sense, then rag on him and tell us what does make sense … but don’t put him in a lose-lose situation by rag’ing on him for saying things that make sense (just because they seem like “common sense”).

DePo addressed this last Friday … and I’m a poor paraphraser, so interpret this more broadly than I present it … he said something along the lines of “some people are saying that our emphasis on on-base percentage isn’t working because we’re in last place so the philosophy has to change … when the reality is that our on-base percentage sucks and that’s a key reason we are losing, which supports the philosophy that on-base percentage is a key factor in offensive success, we just need to execute on that philosophy better” …

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]]> By: parlo http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/07/igd-padres-cardinals-17-jul-08.html/comment-page-3#comment-212299 parlo Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:57:10 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2662#comment-212299 #106@<a href="#comment-212290" rel="nofollow">Oside Jon</a>: "We want pitchers who throw strikes" As opposed to those teams who seek out pitchers who cant find the plate and walk a lot of batters??? As educated as SA is, he could really use a course in Public Relations.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-212299">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> #106@Oside Jon: “We want pitchers who throw strikes”
As opposed to those teams who seek out pitchers who cant find the plate and walk a lot of batters???
As educated as SA is, he could really use a course in Public Relations.

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]]> By: Oside Jon http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/07/igd-padres-cardinals-17-jul-08.html/comment-page-3#comment-212290 Oside Jon Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:00:26 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2662#comment-212290 Alderson: “Our vision for team success has not changed much,” he said. “We want hitters with a high on-base percentage who can drive the ball. But we also want a little more team speed and a lot fewer strikeouts. We want pitchers who throw strikes and keep the ball in the park. And we have to control the running game much better than we have the last several years.” Who doesn't want that? That is what every team in MLB wants. I would also love to have a perfect world, where everyone gets along, food is abundant, women are beautiful, $ grows on trees, and jobs are not needed.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-212290">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> Alderson:

“Our vision for team success has not changed much,” he said. “We want hitters with a high on-base percentage who can drive the ball. But we also want a little more team speed and a lot fewer strikeouts. We want pitchers who throw strikes and keep the ball in the park. And we have to control the running game much better than we have the last several years.”

Who doesn’t want that? That is what every team in MLB wants.

I would also love to have a perfect world, where everyone gets along, food is abundant, women are beautiful, $ grows on trees, and jobs are not needed.

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]]> By: Paul R http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/07/igd-padres-cardinals-17-jul-08.html/comment-page-3#comment-212201 Paul R Fri, 18 Jul 2008 07:09:03 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2662#comment-212201 103: On PHing for Greene. Against a RHP with a good breaking ball, I'm not sure that PHing Rodriguez for Greene is a terrible move. Khalil s hopeless against offseed stuff from righties this year.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-212201">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> 103: On PHing for Greene. Against a RHP with a good breaking ball, I’m not sure that PHing Rodriguez for Greene is a terrible move. Khalil s hopeless against offseed stuff from righties this year.

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]]> By: LynchMob http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/07/igd-padres-cardinals-17-jul-08.html/comment-page-3#comment-212180 LynchMob Fri, 18 Jul 2008 05:57:37 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2662#comment-212180 Wynn Pelzer, who got an interesting mention by DePo on Friday night, with another nice start tonight ... http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=g_box&gid=2008_07_17_ftwafx_cliafx_1 DePo mentioned him as a guy who was poorly used in college (wasn't a starter, nor a closer) and who the Padres have converted into a starter and he's had a lot of success now ... good story.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-212180">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> Wynn Pelzer, who got an interesting mention by DePo on Friday night, with another nice start tonight …

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....x_cliafx_1

DePo mentioned him as a guy who was poorly used in college (wasn’t a starter, nor a closer) and who the Padres have converted into a starter and he’s had a lot of success now … good story.

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]]> By: LynchMob http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/07/igd-padres-cardinals-17-jul-08.html/comment-page-3#comment-212179 LynchMob Fri, 18 Jul 2008 05:52:09 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2662#comment-212179 After a debrief on tonight's with a friend who watched it ... he's livid about Bud Black ... he basically pinch-hit Luis Rodriquez for Khalil Greene ... right? Myrow actually PH'd for KG, but that led to sending up Rodriquez for the pitcher's spot to batters later ... hmmm ... that doesn't seem like Bud's best move ... And what's up with burning Hairston earlier in the game in a situation where there was no one on and 1 out and the pitcher's spot due up next ... that doesn't seem like a high leverage spot for Scotty's bat ... It's always easy to 2nd guess ... but in these cases, they were easy to 1st guess also ... And apparently Myrow didn't look good in his at-bat ... so that didn't really help Bud out ... My friend put it this way ... Bud PH'd a minor leaguer for a major leaguer ... that doesn't seem like a good move in the 9th inning with the tieing run on 2nd and nobody out ...<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-212179">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> After a debrief on tonight’s with a friend who watched it … he’s livid about Bud Black … he basically pinch-hit Luis Rodriquez for Khalil Greene … right? Myrow actually PH’d for KG, but that led to sending up Rodriquez for the pitcher’s spot to batters later … hmmm … that doesn’t seem like Bud’s best move …

And what’s up with burning Hairston earlier in the game in a situation where there was no one on and 1 out and the pitcher’s spot due up next … that doesn’t seem like a high leverage spot for Scotty’s bat …

It’s always easy to 2nd guess … but in these cases, they were easy to 1st guess also …

And apparently Myrow didn’t look good in his at-bat … so that didn’t really help Bud out …

My friend put it this way … Bud PH’d a minor leaguer for a major leaguer … that doesn’t seem like a good move in the 9th inning with the tieing run on 2nd and nobody out …

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]]> By: LynchMob http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/07/igd-padres-cardinals-17-jul-08.html/comment-page-3#comment-212170 LynchMob Fri, 18 Jul 2008 05:43:50 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2662#comment-212170 MadFriars reporting that Shane Buschini was released this morning ... seems like a quick trigger ... but we did draft with an emphasis on hitters this year so guys from previous years who aren't excelling are getting squeezed ...<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-212170">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> MadFriars reporting that Shane Buschini was released this morning … seems like a quick trigger … but we did draft with an emphasis on hitters this year so guys from previous years who aren’t excelling are getting squeezed …

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]]> By: Geoff Young http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/07/igd-padres-cardinals-17-jul-08.html/comment-page-3#comment-212165 Geoff Young Fri, 18 Jul 2008 05:34:23 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2662#comment-212165 #88@<a href="#comment-212084" rel="nofollow">Paul R</a>: Agreed. I have been lax in enforcing the <a href="http://ducksnorts.com/blog/comments-policy/" rel="nofollow">comments policy</a>, but that will change soon. More later...<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-212165">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> #88@Paul R: Agreed. I have been lax in enforcing the comments policy, but that will change soon. More later…

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]]> By: SDSUBaseball http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/07/igd-padres-cardinals-17-jul-08.html/comment-page-2#comment-212161 SDSUBaseball Fri, 18 Jul 2008 05:03:06 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2662#comment-212161 #93@<a href="#comment-212105" rel="nofollow">JP</a>: Whats wrong with Gerut?<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-212161">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> #93@JP: Whats wrong with Gerut?

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