You Read It, You Name It
Tue, Jun 24, 2008
by Geoff Young
I enjoyed my day off so much, I believe I’ll take another. The agenda is roughly the same:
- Drink coffee
- Play with dogs
- Watch Stargate SG-1
- Play Mob Wars
- Read Lillian Ross’ Reporting Back (where I learned, among other things, that the great Hungarian composer Bela Bartok once wrote a piece for Benny Goodman; I’ll need to get my hands on a copy of that)
- Pass out on couch
- Wash, rinse, repeat
Oh, and somewhere in there I have to write an article… Do I know how to party, or what? Anyway, I’ll have the IGD up around 6 p.m. or so. Twins are in town for three. It’ll be a hoot…
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June 24, 2008 at 7:41 am
Extra Sports is floating the rumor that a Kouz for Bay trade is in the works. They did not give their source but they said it was someone in the Padres front office.
June 24, 2008 at 7:49 am
#1@Steve C: Wow, that would seem pretty damn one-sided right now. Bay is a FA after this year, right?
Also, the UT’s got an article this morning saying that we are neither buyers nor sellers. I gotta think we’re closer to sellers at this point since Interleague play has torpedoed all of our momentum: http://www3.signonsandiego.com.....rs/?padres
June 24, 2008 at 8:09 am
Nothing against SG-1, but if I had the day off, I’d be watching the last 2 minutes of the last BSG a few more times.
#2@Phantom: It’s so hard to decide where we are now. Arizona has come back, but there are some cold, nasty bits of data out there. 3rd worst run differential and not many reinforcements for our weak spots, either via trade or on the farm.
June 24, 2008 at 8:09 am
#1@Steve C: Supposedly that was on the table before the season but the Pirates wanted Headley and the Padres declined. Maybe with one of their top prospects struggling – Neil Walker in AAA – they might be willing to bite.
If the Padres think they could sign Bay - I would do it.
June 24, 2008 at 8:11 am
#4@John Conniff: Me too. You’d think the Pirates might be able to do better, with several teams looking for OF help. If they really like Kouz maybe we could leverage it with a 3rd team.
June 24, 2008 at 8:12 am
Geoff, when you say pass out on the coach, you don’t mean pass out, do you? If so, woo hoo, carry on.
Anybody see yesterdays UT article on the big D. Looks like Becky is more interested in the Pads then John. Also, anyone with an extra 34 million, I here there is a house for sale on the 18th green at Pebble Beach.
June 24, 2008 at 8:14 am
Extra Sports has shown on a consistent basis, that it is possible to be less informed than the fools on 1090. I place zero faith in anything they have to say.
June 24, 2008 at 8:15 am
#5@Tom Waits: Agreed, I think Bay for Kouz would be incredibly underselling on the part of the Pirates. I gotta think there’s another piece of this deal not being reported.
June 24, 2008 at 8:15 am
#3@Tom Waits: Actually, I’ve already done that. My wife bought me the complete series of SG-1, though, so I’m embarking on all 212 episodes.
June 24, 2008 at 8:16 am
Also, and I hate to go here, but is there anything of value we could get from Baltimore for Khalil? We still have no viable replacement for him and he’s starting to hit, but Baltimore is pretty hard up for a SS. Is there anything we could get by floating KG?
June 24, 2008 at 8:19 am
#9@Geoff Young: Earth!
June 24, 2008 at 8:27 am
#10@Phantom: Baltimore has some interesting young arms, but most of their prospects have issues.
June 24, 2008 at 8:30 am
#9@Geoff Young: Color Me Jealous…though my fav is when Col. O’Neil and T’ealc (Sp?) get caught in the time loop.
June 24, 2008 at 8:32 am
#12@Tom Waits: Is there any remote possibility we could do Khalil for Adam Jones?
June 24, 2008 at 8:37 am
I prefer LOST. Season 4 was incredible!
I’d also be down for a Jason Bay for Kouz trade as well. If we could sign Bay at a reasonable price then I think it’s a good move on our part.
June 24, 2008 at 8:40 am
#14@Phantom: Can’t see it for KG alone. They have Jones for 5 more years.
June 24, 2008 at 8:44 am
14. No.
June 24, 2008 at 8:46 am
Re: Kouz for Bay…
The trade would essentially be Kouzmanoff for a half year of Bay, possibly a first round draft pick, and an increased chance of signing him, possibly at a below market rate.
If there was an extension already in the works for reasonable money, go for it.
June 24, 2008 at 8:50 am
Holy Carp…I just saw a pig fly by my window…so I came to Ducksnorts and saw why…Phantom advocating a KG trade.
I love you Phantom.
June 24, 2008 at 8:52 am
#19@Coronado Mike: Not necessarily advocating, just being a realist. Baltimore really needs a SS. We’d need one to replace KG, but I can’t help but think that the Padres should explore possibilities with any team that really needs a SS.
I think Khalil is in the process of getting hot and would hate to lose him. But I don’t think he’ll be a Padre after 2009 anyway.
June 24, 2008 at 9:02 am
#20@Phantom: It won’t be easy, because 2008 has drawn down his value and some teams that might have needed a SS before the year don’t now.
It might be better to wait until the winter. He’s almost surely not going to be a 27 HR, 97 RBI shortstop, and there will only be 1 year left on his deal, but a few hot / warm months will make him more attractive. Like with Kouz, they’ll have to decide if what they get back makes more sense than keeping him and hoping his 2009 looks more like his 2007 than his 2008.
June 24, 2008 at 9:07 am
#1@Steve C: There is NO WAY the Pirates would only take Kouz for Bay. It seemingly would have to be 2 top prospects and KK to make it a go.
June 24, 2008 at 9:15 am
#21@Tom Waits: That’s also kind of my thoughts. I suppose he could have an extremely hot second half and get close to his numbers from last year, but if he gets that hot then this team should be contending.
June 24, 2008 at 9:24 am
You don’t find someone of Khalil’s talent defensively once or twice in a couple of decades.
Kouzmanoff, Iguchi, Hairston, Bard, Barrett have performed below what we expected from them with the stick. As has Greene obviously, but what he brings defensively puts him in a different class from the underachievers on the list above.
June 24, 2008 at 9:25 am
Re. 22: I was thinking that if I was running things, I wouldn’t take Bay only for Kouz… The Pirates aren’t anything special this year and Bay walks after this year, Kouz is ready to help that team now (and until Alverez is ready).
(BTW, I’m blogging again: http://padresrundown.blogspot.com/ )
June 24, 2008 at 9:27 am
#22@JP: I don’t know they would control kouz for the next 4 years and all they would be losing is half a year of Bays services and possibly an extra 1st round draft pick
June 24, 2008 at 9:27 am
Kouzmanoff is also a major risk because of his recurrent back problems.
I sort of see him becoming a Wes Helms like player — not bad at all (10+ year mlb career) but not a star.
June 24, 2008 at 9:29 am
#24@JP: There are plenty of guys in the Major Leagues right now that are as good defensivly as KG…probably more than a few in the NL alone.
June 24, 2008 at 9:31 am
24. Bay is a free agent. He’s not worth that much if they can’t sign him.
June 24, 2008 at 9:31 am
#28@Coronado Mike: We agree to disagree on this one. Are you basing your position on defensive ’statistics’ ?
June 24, 2008 at 9:35 am
#29@Alan:For that reason, I don’t think Bay will come here via trade. Truth is, the Bucs can get a lot from a contender that’s willing to take the risk so why would they settle for KK in a trade w/the Padres ?
June 24, 2008 at 9:35 am
Bay is a very, very nice piece for this team. He’s hitting .283/.393/.524
Petco would sap some of that power-but as we’ve found .400OBP’s don’t grow on trees. Combine Bay with Adrian and Headley you’ve got the beginnings of a good offense-perhaps a very good offense if they can find some spare parts-like a CF.
Mark
June 24, 2008 at 9:37 am
According to Cots, Jason Bay has a contract for next year for a very reasonable $7.5 million. So he’s got a year and a half before free agency. It’s basically the same situation Texas was in with Mark Teixeira, and Bay is a similar quality hitter to Teixeria (Teixeira career 130 OPS+, Bay 131). Teixeira didn’t have the scary red flag of Bay’s year last year, but he also plays first base, not left field. Considering the haul Teixeira got, I would say getting Bay for a deal centered around Kouz would be a good one.
June 24, 2008 at 9:41 am
#31@JP: Would the Pads risk renting Bay for a 1/2 season and then losing him ? I would say no. But is it possible to work out an instant 3 year deal with Bay as part of the deal ? This makes me nervous as Bay is getting up in age. Now that I think about it, getting Bay may not be the direction the Pads want to go in. Price too high now.
June 24, 2008 at 9:42 am
#33@Ben B.: If you are correct here then ….Wow ! Getting him might not be that costly….
June 24, 2008 at 9:44 am
#13@Rain Delay: Yeah, that’s way up there. The juggling scenes are classic.
June 24, 2008 at 9:48 am
#30@JP:
JP Khalil is a good defensive shortstop but nowhere near the player you are making him out to be. Once every 10 years? Don’t get jaded by the flashy plays he sometimes turns. He’s the 3rd best SS in the National league west for example. He doesn’t have nearly the range or arm of guys like Furcal or Tulowitzki. He’s good but let’s be serious.
June 24, 2008 at 9:50 am
#30@JP: Gotta agree with you on this one, JP. Defensively, I think probably only Omar Vizquel and maybe Tulo can hang with Khalil. Tulo’s got a better arm, but Khalil has better instincts off the bat.
June 24, 2008 at 9:52 am
#22@JP: Nobody’s giving up 2 top prospects and a quality major league starter for Bay. Pittsburgh would be lucky to get 1 good prospect, a lesser-ranked guy, and an erratic young reliever for him.
#24@JP: I haven’t seen anything that suggests Greene is a once-in-a-decade defender. An aging Vizquel was as good or better than Greene from 04 to 07. We should be skeptical of fielding stats, but they pretty much all say that.
June 24, 2008 at 9:53 am
#37@KRS1: Better arm does not a better shortstop make. People tend to forget that Khalil has a tremendous arm, he just doesn’t use it when he doesn’t need to. He’s been quoted on several occasions saying that he only throws as hard as he needs to given the situation.
Furcal at this point is more injury-prone than Khalil and is older. He’s a better offensive player, but I think it’s a stretch to say that Furcal is a better defender.
June 24, 2008 at 9:59 am
#39@Tom Waits: Due to Ben B’s research, let me amend the first part of that. For 1.5 years of Bay, the price would be higher. But you still don’t see that many top prospects going too often, especially if there’s a legitimate major leaguer in the deal as well.
June 24, 2008 at 10:08 am
#40@Phantom: Without getting into exact rankings, I’d definitely side with KRS and others. Greene’s a good defender, but he’s not in any sort of class by himself.
June 24, 2008 at 10:09 am
#40@Phantom: I should also add that after looking at their BR pages, Khalil and Furcal have similar career OPS+. Khali’s OPS+ over 630 games is 98. Furcal’s OPS+ over 1146 is games is 96.
June 24, 2008 at 10:10 am
Geoff, I think I have a hung comment…
June 24, 2008 at 10:11 am
#42@Tom Waits: I wouldn’t say he’s “once in a decade” but I think he’s better than Furcal defensively. I think that aside from Vizquel, and maybe Tulo, there isn’t a better defensive SS in the NL.
Also, I should add that Furcal’s career fielding percentage is 10 points lower than Khalil’s. Obviously fielding percentage isn’t the be-all, end-all of fielding stats, but that’s something. It’s also worth mentioning that Khalil’s fielding percentage is trending upwards while Furcal’s is heading down.
June 24, 2008 at 10:12 am
#41@Tom Waits: I still agree with you that the price for Bay is not going to come close to the price for Teixeira. For whatever reasons (Bay’s terrible year last year, Teixeira playing in Texas’ launching pad, Bay playing in the anonymity of Pittsburgh, Bay’s terrible year last year, Bay not being a highly regarded prospect his whole life), the perception is that Bay is just not in Teixeria’s class.
June 24, 2008 at 10:22 am
#44@Peter Friberg: I’m juvenile, but that cracked me up.
#45@Phantom: No disagreement on Furcal, but there are several measurements that put him in (sometimes at the bottom of) the Top 5-7 NL shortstops the last 3 years. Furcal’s typically been lower than that.
June 24, 2008 at 10:25 am
Re. 47: It’s a seemingly well-hung comment. I mean it’s been hung since the 20’s…
June 24, 2008 at 10:25 am
#47@Tom Waits: By “him” in my response to Phantom, I meant Greene. Most fielding measurements put Greene in the upper half or upper third of NL shortstops.
June 24, 2008 at 10:26 am
#30@JP: We can base it on almost any measure you want…reputation, tools, definsive metrics…
A sampling of SS’s that are as good with the glove or better:
Tulo
Jack Wilson
Vizquel (yes, even today)
Adam Everett
Orlando Cabrera
Jose Reyes
Jimmy Rollins
Rafael Furcal
That is at first blush and off the top of my head…I am sure if we did some research we could come up with others. I know this may seem like more of CM baggin on KG…it is not. It is simply me taking up against your comment in #24…he is nowhere near a guy whose defensive prowess comes along only “once or twice in a couple of decades.”
June 24, 2008 at 10:26 am
#48@Peter Friberg: When the Ducksnorts email filter nails a comment, it stays nailed.
June 24, 2008 at 10:37 am
#40@Phantom: I never said that arm strength alone is what makes a SS. Khalil’s arm is fine and his range is fine too but it is not top notch.
I really don’t want to get too involved in a Furcal is better argument because I am at work and I can’t due enough research to back up my statements (if that research exists). I just think Furcal’s range to his right and left is unreal and it seems to be holding up decently with his age. His arm is un-godly and he routinely makes plays that leave my jaw hanging every time I catch a Dogs game.
Again no knock on Khalil he’s good but he isn’t elite or the 2nd coming of Ozzie Smith.
June 24, 2008 at 10:59 am
#50@Coronado Mike: I would staunchly disagree on Rollins and Reyes. Their offensive value and perceived toolsiness makes people frequently mistake them for outstanding defensive shortstops. I would also quibble about Jack Wilson, but I think he’s better than both Reyes and Rollins. I obviously do not buy into the Rafael Furcal hype. So with my reservations, that list goes down to five.
I definitely think Khalil is one of the three best defensive shortstops in the NL and is probably close to top 5 in baseball. A great defender? Yes. A “once in a decade” talent? No.
June 24, 2008 at 11:31 am
#51@Tom Waits: Heh-heh, you said “nailed.” Heh-heh…
June 24, 2008 at 11:41 am
fwiw, I just updated my shortstop fielding numbers (the data taken from the hardball times, easily turned into a plus/minus ’stat’) …
Top 5 in NL:
Hardy: +14.4 runs
Escobar: +14.2
Izturis: +6.5
Vizquel: +5.3
Tulo: +4.2
…. Greene: 2.2 (12th in NL)
Others of note: Rollins, Drew, Furcal — all pretty much average (+0), Reyes is -9.
Justin from On Baseball and The Reds did pretty much the same thing with 2007 data (I’d link to it, but for some reason my computer won’t let me copy/paste):
Greene was +9 and 6th in the NL (behind Tulo, Reyes, Wilson, Everett, and Vizquel).
Personally, I think he is above average, but not once in a decade or best in the league or anything like that. I’m also not going by just these numbers, as you’d want more years and probably a better metric to truly determine stuff like this (not to mention, scouting, etc.)
June 24, 2008 at 11:46 am
For Greene, that was supposed to be +2.2, btw.
June 24, 2008 at 11:51 am
#39@Tom Waits: When you listen to the out of town color men on the various mlb.tv broadcasts (usually former players that know the game) simply rave about the defense of Greene then you know that you have something pretty special. I think phantom put it best, the guy just has good instincts off the bat are exceptional and he makes difficult plays often look easy.
Of course, he isn’t comparable to Ozzie Smith but who is ? I certainly never said he was.
June 24, 2008 at 12:02 pm
I may have got carried away in my calling Khalil a once a decade shortstop only because in terms of this franchise’s history, he truly is. Maybe I should take off my Padre blinders off though I always seem to put them back on when I see that the franchise has no options in the farm system to replace him for at least 3 years. This franchise now –the way it is run now –will not sign a big time free agent to play shortstop and the thought of being stuck with something like a Luis Rodriguez/Manny Alexander platoon gives me anxiety. In fact, I had a nightmare about it two days ago.
June 24, 2008 at 12:05 pm
#57@JP: A lot of broadcasters also rave about Jeter’s defense, though. They rave about Tulo. They still rave about Vizquel.
“once or twice in a couple of decades” is awfully strong praise. If he’s not better than Vizquel now, there’s no way he’s better than Vizquel was 10 years ago. I don’t think anyone would dispute that Greene’s one of the top defensive SS the last 3 years. MB’s post seems to be a pretty accurate representation of the general feeling. Extending beyond that puts us on shaky ground.
June 24, 2008 at 12:11 pm
#58@JP: Well, as we long-suffering Padre fans know, it’s distressingly easy to make the once-in-a-decade Padre list.
June 24, 2008 at 12:18 pm
#56@MB: how does the Ranger’s Michael Young rate defensively when compared with Khalil Greene as far as the defensive measurement that you look to ?
June 24, 2008 at 12:21 pm
#58@JP: I agree with you on this. Khalil is, at this point, the best SS in team history. In our 40 years as a professional team, you get kind of attached to guys that are the best your team has ever had.
I also agree wrt to the out of town broadcaster thing. I watch all of the games on MLB.TV or listen on XM, and they routinely praise his defense as some of the best in the league.
Tom, you make a good point that people also praise Jeter. But most everyone in NY is praised for something. For a player like Khalil, who plays on a team that gets little national attention, to receive similar praise is probably more indicative of his true talent level. Listening to out of town broadcasts, the two players that are always lauded are Adrian and Khalil.
June 24, 2008 at 12:22 pm
#60@Tom Waits: Which doesn’t mean Greene isn’t the best SS, overall, the Padres have ever had. He is. But in general, there are many positions at which a couple of good years qualifies a player to be once-in-a-decade as a Padre. Mike Cameron’s may be a Top 5 Padre CF. Adrian Gonzalez is almost certainly already a Top 5 Padre 1b.
June 24, 2008 at 12:24 pm
#51@Tom Waits: that’s not true … i often have posts eaten … i use the ‘Contact’ link above to notify GY … and he gets the post out of the spam-bin and into the comment string … and lately it seems to be acting on those learnings … as it’s letting links to milb.com and yahoo.com, etc, get thru …
June 24, 2008 at 12:35 pm
#64@LynchMob: I was going for the linkage of “nailed” to “hung” in Peter’s posts, not actually speaking of any inflexibility on the part of the filter.
June 24, 2008 at 12:38 pm
#61@JP:
2007: -14.2 runs (7th from bottom)
2008: -3.1 (13th from the bottom)
Young is generally considered one of the worst fielding ss’s, I believe.
June 24, 2008 at 12:46 pm
#62@Phantom: We’d have to watch a lot of non-Padre baseball to know what they say about everyone else, though. For example, late last year I ended up watching too many Rockies games. Tulo and Helton got a lot of praise for their defense. It doesn’t seem that useful without a wider base.
IIRC, MB linked to Tangotiger’s fan scouting system sometime in the not-too-distant past. Last year that system put Greene 7th in the bigs among SS. He was further back in the pack in 2006. None of the defensive measurements are totally complete or convincing, but they all seem to say about the same thing: Greene’s a very good defender. When you factor in his typical offense (not 2008), he’d jump up to top 3.
June 24, 2008 at 12:47 pm
#66@MB:
btw, feel free to ask me about anyone else or whatever …
Here’s the ‘07 data that Justin did: http://spreadsheets.google.com.....&gid=4
You can find ‘08 on my blog under fielding, although they are not updated (about a week old or so).
June 24, 2008 at 12:52 pm
#66@MB: Oddly enough, by RZR Young ranks above Greene this year. So does Jeter. KG beats them both in OOZ plays.
June 24, 2008 at 12:59 pm
Jaff is playing TODAY!
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....k_pdrrok_1
… he’s 1-for-3 so far, with an RBI and a SB! Playing LF.
A new era has begun?
June 24, 2008 at 1:00 pm
#65@Tom Waits: Well, as Steve Martin used to say, ex-cuuuuuuuse me!
June 24, 2008 at 1:00 pm
#21@Tom Waits: Khalil wasnt exactly setting the world on fire this time last year. I think there is a chance he could approach last years numbers. He has always been a 2nd half player. That said, if we can get something for him I would be all for trading him.
June 24, 2008 at 1:02 pm
#69@Tom Waits:
Yeah, I have Young at +3.5 plays in zone, -7.5 out of zone, so that’s where he’s really getting hurt.
Greene: +2.3 in zone, +.6 out of zone.
(remember, they get combined and converted to runs after).
June 24, 2008 at 1:03 pm
Ranking Young (RZR) above Greene defensively is a sham.
What is the rubric that RZR uses ?
Herein lies the problem of a total and complete reliance on defensive stats.
June 24, 2008 at 1:04 pm
#72@SDSUBaseball: I’m sure we can get something for him, but it really depends just what that something is. Trading him right now would probably be selling low, as it would be with Kouz. But Kouz is under control for longer and could likely bring a better bounty than Khalil. The other factor that you absolutely must consider is that there are organizational replacements for Kouz. If we trade Khalil, we either have to hope we have something else in the pipeline or else Luis Rodriguez becomes our everday SS.
June 24, 2008 at 1:09 pm
#70@LynchMob: He gave up a leadoff double in the 9th which came around to score, but Mr. Colin Lynch managed to get a game-ending GIDP for Save #2 in Game #2 for the AZL Padres … Go Lynch!
June 24, 2008 at 1:10 pm
#74@JP:
I believe it uses the zone(s) in which shortstops make at least 50% of the plays. So any balls in those zones are “in zone” balls. everything else is out of zone.
So Young ranks better on in zone plays, but Greene still kills him overall (because he’s much better out of zone). Also, remember, a half year of fielding stats are hardly reliable. Most analysts want at least 2-3 years because they (fielding stats) aren’t as reliable as offensive stats.
June 24, 2008 at 1:29 pm
#72@SDSUBaseball: That’s true, but at this point last year he had a 746 OPS with 11 HR. Now he’s at 641 and 7. To get close to 2007 from here is an awfully steep hill.
#74@JP: As MB explains, RZR is just one part of the defensive measurements that the Hardball Times uses. It’s “in zone” plays, and halfway through the season it’s going to have more noise than it will in September.
I don’t know anybody who relies completely and totally on defensive stats. We know that announcers say great things about shortstops other than Greene. We know that the informed fans who contribute to Tangotiger’s project say that Greene is quite good but they don’t consider him the true upper echelon. Every objective measurement puts Greene in the very good category. As long as no one’s saying he’s a historic defensive talent, or on the other hand that he stinks, i don’t see that there’s really a dispute here.
June 24, 2008 at 1:32 pm
#77@MB: Yeah, that’s exactly why I called attention to it. Even the guys who constructed THT’s fielding system wouldn’t say Young is better, it’s just an interesting piece of data. So far it looks like Young has taken care of most everything hit near him, but he’s not doing anything else with the glove.
June 24, 2008 at 1:34 pm
#77@MB: Gotcha. I don’t want to close to anything of value to gain insight either. I want to learn. Thanks.
June 24, 2008 at 1:36 pm
#78@Tom Waits: “As long as no one’s saying he’s a historic defensive talent, or on the other hand that he stinks, i don’t see that there’s really a dispute here”.
Understood. This has been a good discussion. Thanks.
June 24, 2008 at 1:48 pm
#78@Tom Waits: I think you hit it on the head…He is not a top end guy, but certainly above average. I no longer argue that he is Chris Gomez with a bat…he is better than that. I was wrong.
June 24, 2008 at 1:53 pm
#80@JP:
No problem, JP … glad I could help a little : )
June 24, 2008 at 1:56 pm
82 posts (so far) when Geoff didn’t put anything up….yep, it’s a Khalil bashing/supporting day.
Khalil talk gets people more fired up then my bashing of the Padres front office for their draft!
June 24, 2008 at 2:09 pm
#84@Schlom: It’s actually been a pretty substantive discussion that has lacked vitriol. I feel like this is a momentous day in the history of the blog.
June 24, 2008 at 2:14 pm
#85@Phantom: indeed … well done guys/dudes/gals/etc …
Cal League All-Star game tonight …
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....mp;lid=110
June 24, 2008 at 2:17 pm
Mad Friars is reporting that Luis Domoromo (16, Venezuela, CF) will sign with the Padres. ESPN has him rated as the #5 Latin prospect and estimated that he’d get $1.2 million.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=3433834
June 24, 2008 at 2:18 pm
From FJ Blog, Steve Garrison is TL Pitcher of the week …
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....;fext=.jsp
Texas League
Steve Garrison, San Antonio
1-0, 1.39 ERA, 2 G, 2GS, 0 CG, 0 SHO, 13 IP, 11 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 18 SO
… that’s a nice 2 outings!