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		<title>By: JP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 19:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#73@&lt;a href="#comment-193896" rel="nofollow"&gt;Tom Waits&lt;/a&gt;: Hey Waits, how do you like your steak cooked ?  Branyan's as hot as a Texas summer, which probably guarantee's him 100 or so more PA's.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-193898"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#73@<a href="#comment-193896" rel="nofollow">Tom Waits</a>: Hey Waits, how do you like your steak cooked ?  Branyan&#8217;s as hot as a Texas summer, which probably guarantee&#8217;s him 100 or so more PA&#8217;s.
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		<title>By: Tom Waits</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Waits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 19:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#72@&lt;a href="#comment-193888" rel="nofollow"&gt;Geoff Young&lt;/a&gt;: Whatever their budget for 2001 was:

1. Boone had an option that wasn't onerous.
2. Any 2001 budget didn't include any money for Myers. His contract mercifully ended in 2000. 

Which doesn't mitigate what a disaster the decision to claim Myers was.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-193896"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#72@<a href="#comment-193888" rel="nofollow">Geoff Young</a>: Whatever their budget for 2001 was:</p>
<p>1. Boone had an option that wasn&#8217;t onerous.<br />
2. Any 2001 budget didn&#8217;t include any money for Myers. His contract mercifully ended in 2000. </p>
<p>Which doesn&#8217;t mitigate what a disaster the decision to claim Myers was.
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		<title>By: Geoff Young</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 19:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#71@&lt;a href="#comment-193872" rel="nofollow"&gt;Tom Waits&lt;/a&gt;: Well, yes, it's an unstated assumption that the Padres &lt;em&gt;chose&lt;/em&gt; not to spend that money on Boone. Presumably the team had set a budget for '01 and had no advance knowledge of what it would cost to re-sign him. A similar thing happened this past winter: I'm pretty sure if the Padres had known they could keep Mike Cameron at 1-year, $8M, they'd have done it.

As for Boone's "dedication," that's a whole other issue and I don't have an answer. We'll never know, but you're right that it's possible he wouldn't have "applied himself" in the same way if he'd remained here.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-193888"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#71@<a href="#comment-193872" rel="nofollow">Tom Waits</a>: Well, yes, it&#8217;s an unstated assumption that the Padres <em>chose</em> not to spend that money on Boone. Presumably the team had set a budget for &#8216;01 and had no advance knowledge of what it would cost to re-sign him. A similar thing happened this past winter: I&#8217;m pretty sure if the Padres had known they could keep Mike Cameron at 1-year, $8M, they&#8217;d have done it.</p>
<p>As for Boone&#8217;s &#8220;dedication,&#8221; that&#8217;s a whole other issue and I don&#8217;t have an answer. We&#8217;ll never know, but you&#8217;re right that it&#8217;s possible he wouldn&#8217;t have &#8220;applied himself&#8221; in the same way if he&#8217;d remained here.
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		<title>By: Tom Waits</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Waits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#69@&lt;a href="#comment-193861" rel="nofollow"&gt;Geoff Young&lt;/a&gt;: 

The points I always bring up when someone says that "X" cost us Brett Boone's 2001 are: 

1. A decision to not spend money is different than not having it to spend. The Padres could afford Boone in 2000, when he made 3.75 million, and when they were still paying Myers. In 2001 Myers was off the books, and Boone ended up signing in Seattle for 3.25, after we declined his option and paid his buyout. 

2. Does Boone...how shall I put this....commit himself to the weight room and its associated paraphenelia if he isn't cast aside by the Padres? Or was he driven to that level of.....dedication?....by the realization that he was not in high demand?&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-193872"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#69@<a href="#comment-193861" rel="nofollow">Geoff Young</a>: </p>
<p>The points I always bring up when someone says that &#8220;X&#8221; cost us Brett Boone&#8217;s 2001 are: </p>
<p>1. A decision to not spend money is different than not having it to spend. The Padres could afford Boone in 2000, when he made 3.75 million, and when they were still paying Myers. In 2001 Myers was off the books, and Boone ended up signing in Seattle for 3.25, after we declined his option and paid his buyout. </p>
<p>2. Does Boone&#8230;how shall I put this&#8230;.commit himself to the weight room and its associated paraphenelia if he isn&#8217;t cast aside by the Padres? Or was he driven to that level of&#8230;..dedication?&#8230;.by the realization that he was not in high demand?
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		<title>By: Steve C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#69@&lt;a href="#comment-193861" rel="nofollow"&gt;Geoff Young&lt;/a&gt;: Ha even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and again...&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-193868"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#69@<a href="#comment-193861" rel="nofollow">Geoff Young</a>: Ha even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and again&#8230;
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		<title>By: Geoff Young</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Getting in late on some of these...

#38@&lt;a href="#comment-193482" rel="nofollow"&gt;Lance Richardson&lt;/a&gt;: Nice pull!

#49@&lt;a href="#comment-193517" rel="nofollow"&gt;Steve C&lt;/a&gt;: Thank goodness for Jake Peavy in the 15th in '99, eh?

#56@&lt;a href="#comment-193554" rel="nofollow"&gt;Schlom&lt;/a&gt;: Thanks for dropping some names. I agree with your assessment of how our draft likely will go.

#58@&lt;a href="#comment-193558" rel="nofollow"&gt;BigWorm&lt;/a&gt;: Pads got burned on the Williams for Lankford for deal. That really should have worked.

#67@&lt;a href="#comment-193586" rel="nofollow"&gt;Kevin&lt;/a&gt;: The Myers pickup was a disaster. Towers got completely schooled on that and, to his credit, hasn't done anything like it since. Among other consequences, Myers' contract kept us from hanging onto Bret Boone during his MVP caliber seasons. For as bad as drafting Bush has turned out, it's nowhere near trading for Myers in terms of bad moves. Bush cost $3.5M and has a chance -- albeit remote -- to make something of himself. Myers stunk &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; cost the Pads $13.5M, which had repercussions that were felt for years.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-193861"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting in late on some of these&#8230;</p>
<p>#38@<a href="#comment-193482" rel="nofollow">Lance Richardson</a>: Nice pull!</p>
<p>#49@<a href="#comment-193517" rel="nofollow">Steve C</a>: Thank goodness for Jake Peavy in the 15th in &#8216;99, eh?</p>
<p>#56@<a href="#comment-193554" rel="nofollow">Schlom</a>: Thanks for dropping some names. I agree with your assessment of how our draft likely will go.</p>
<p>#58@<a href="#comment-193558" rel="nofollow">BigWorm</a>: Pads got burned on the Williams for Lankford for deal. That really should have worked.</p>
<p>#67@<a href="#comment-193586" rel="nofollow">Kevin</a>: The Myers pickup was a disaster. Towers got completely schooled on that and, to his credit, hasn&#8217;t done anything like it since. Among other consequences, Myers&#8217; contract kept us from hanging onto Bret Boone during his MVP caliber seasons. For as bad as drafting Bush has turned out, it&#8217;s nowhere near trading for Myers in terms of bad moves. Bush cost $3.5M and has a chance &#8212; albeit remote &#8212; to make something of himself. Myers stunk <em>and</em> cost the Pads $13.5M, which had repercussions that were felt for years.
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		<title>By: Tom Waits</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Waits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 03:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#67@&lt;a href="#comment-193586" rel="nofollow"&gt;Kevin&lt;/a&gt;: 

1. Was that a worthwhile goal? I thought Schuerholz later said the Braves had no interest. Even if they did, was it worth it? I suspect even Towers would say that move wasn't well considered. 

2. We do know that Myers had a 62 ERA+ for us in the regular season, a 13.50 ERA against the Braves in the NLCS, and a 9.00 ERA against the Yankees. 

3. If the Braves had wanted a LH reliever, there were others available.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-193610"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#67@<a href="#comment-193586" rel="nofollow">Kevin</a>: </p>
<p>1. Was that a worthwhile goal? I thought Schuerholz later said the Braves had no interest. Even if they did, was it worth it? I suspect even Towers would say that move wasn&#8217;t well considered. </p>
<p>2. We do know that Myers had a 62 ERA+ for us in the regular season, a 13.50 ERA against the Braves in the NLCS, and a 9.00 ERA against the Yankees. </p>
<p>3. If the Braves had wanted a LH reliever, there were others available.
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 02:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#57@&lt;a href="#comment-193555" rel="nofollow"&gt;Schlom&lt;/a&gt;: The Randy Myers pickup did what it was designed to do, keep him away from Atlanta, which wanted a left-handed reliever. If Atlanta got him, maybe he would have done well against the Padres in the NLCS. We don't know.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-193586"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#57@<a href="#comment-193555" rel="nofollow">Schlom</a>: The Randy Myers pickup did what it was designed to do, keep him away from Atlanta, which wanted a left-handed reliever. If Atlanta got him, maybe he would have done well against the Padres in the NLCS. We don&#8217;t know.
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 02:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#53@&lt;a href="#comment-193532" rel="nofollow"&gt;Loren&lt;/a&gt;: How is Greene a pain in anything?&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-193585"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#53@<a href="#comment-193532" rel="nofollow">Loren</a>: How is Greene a pain in anything?
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 02:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#51@&lt;a href="#comment-193524" rel="nofollow"&gt;PF4L&lt;/a&gt;: Baseball America&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-193583"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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