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		<title>By: Melvin Nieves</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melvin Nieves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 05:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, actually MGL wrote that piece.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-203789"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, actually MGL wrote that piece.
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		<title>By: Melvin Nieves</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melvin Nieves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 05:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geoff, your Hardball Times article got some attention from Tom Tango.

http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/index.php/site/comments/one_of_many_ways_that_not_regressing_toward_the_mean_can_get_you_in_trouble/&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-203788"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoff, your Hardball Times article got some attention from Tom Tango.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/index.php/site/comments/one_of_many_ways_that_not_regressing_toward_the_mean_can_get_you_in_trouble/" rel="nofollow">http://www.insidethebook.com/e.....n_trouble/</a>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#22:  Your argument holds if you think we contend next year.  I'm not sure I do.

If we can turn Kouz, Maddux, Giles and Wolf into two top end prospects, I'd rather play next year hoping for young breakouts.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-203596"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#22:  Your argument holds if you think we contend next year.  I&#8217;m not sure I do.</p>
<p>If we can turn Kouz, Maddux, Giles and Wolf into two top end prospects, I&#8217;d rather play next year hoping for young breakouts.
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		<title>By: John Conniff</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Conniff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#31@&lt;a href="#comment-203580" rel="nofollow"&gt;Tom Waits&lt;/a&gt;: I'm sure plenty of people would be in the Rasmus sweepstakes - to get a player like that is largley about fate - you happen to have the parts they covet and for a top prospect he's backed up behind someone they do like.

The Padres have dealt with the Cards in the past - but now they have a new GM - so who knows.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-203581"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#31@<a href="#comment-203580" rel="nofollow">Tom Waits</a>: I&#8217;m sure plenty of people would be in the Rasmus sweepstakes - to get a player like that is largley about fate - you happen to have the parts they covet and for a top prospect he&#8217;s backed up behind someone they do like.</p>
<p>The Padres have dealt with the Cards in the past - but now they have a new GM - so who knows.
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		<title>By: Tom Waits</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Waits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#30@&lt;a href="#comment-203577" rel="nofollow"&gt;John Conniff&lt;/a&gt;: Don't get wrong, I'd love to get Rasmus.  I wouldn't hold my breath on a deal like that if someone else was offering an interesting player for Wolf alone, though.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-203580"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#30@<a href="#comment-203577" rel="nofollow">John Conniff</a>: Don&#8217;t get wrong, I&#8217;d love to get Rasmus.  I wouldn&#8217;t hold my breath on a deal like that if someone else was offering an interesting player for Wolf alone, though.
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		<title>By: John Conniff</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Conniff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#29@&lt;a href="#comment-203567" rel="nofollow"&gt;Tom Waits&lt;/a&gt;: In general on a Rasmus level prospect I would agree with you - but St. Louis could be a possible exception to the rule.  (1) They seem pretty happy with Rick Ankiel in CF for the big club and in AA Jon Jay is having a very good year.  (2) There was some bad blood between Rasmus and St. Louis after spring training regarding what LaRussa did or did not say to him and the subsequent postings on an Internet site.  (3)  He had a tough first two months in AAA and is finally starting to pull out of it.  He may not be quite as untouchable as he was before spring training.

If St. Louis was willing to deal him - and get back Giles and Bell in return - they would fill a LF hole and get a potential closer, something they have missed while still having an everyday CF and one in the wings with Jay.

Giles is at most in San Diego's plans for one more year, and while Bell would be tough to get - Rasmus could give SD six years in CF if he's as good as everyone believes.

If you talk to people who saw him play in the Texas League most thought Rasmus was better than Headley last year.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-203577"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#29@<a href="#comment-203567" rel="nofollow">Tom Waits</a>: In general on a Rasmus level prospect I would agree with you - but St. Louis could be a possible exception to the rule.  (1) They seem pretty happy with Rick Ankiel in CF for the big club and in AA Jon Jay is having a very good year.  (2) There was some bad blood between Rasmus and St. Louis after spring training regarding what LaRussa did or did not say to him and the subsequent postings on an Internet site.  (3)  He had a tough first two months in AAA and is finally starting to pull out of it.  He may not be quite as untouchable as he was before spring training.</p>
<p>If St. Louis was willing to deal him - and get back Giles and Bell in return - they would fill a LF hole and get a potential closer, something they have missed while still having an everyday CF and one in the wings with Jay.</p>
<p>Giles is at most in San Diego&#8217;s plans for one more year, and while Bell would be tough to get - Rasmus could give SD six years in CF if he&#8217;s as good as everyone believes.</p>
<p>If you talk to people who saw him play in the Texas League most thought Rasmus was better than Headley last year.
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		<title>By: Tom Waits</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Waits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#26@&lt;a href="#comment-203553" rel="nofollow"&gt;John Conniff&lt;/a&gt;: 

(Prospects) If we're holding out for a Rasmus-level prospect, it's almost certainly not happening. I'd trade Wolf and Maddux for a lot of players who aren't as highly thought of as Rasmus and aren't in the top 50-100 prospects. I'd trade them for a lot of guys who are already in the majors but undervalued or superfluous to their own teams. 

(First Base) I doubt there's sold on Blanks. Even if they were, he's still just one guy. Agon wants to test free agency, Blanks flames out in AAA, we're stuck. I'm happy with the team taking the player they wanted regardless of position; I'm currently withholding judgment on whether they should have wanted Dykstra or not. 

#27@&lt;a href="#comment-203554" rel="nofollow"&gt;John Conniff&lt;/a&gt;: I don't need a top prospect for Wolf, but that's me. If  Wolf landed us Aaron Heilmann, I'd do that deal quickly and without looking back. 

#28@&lt;a href="#comment-203560" rel="nofollow"&gt;Field39&lt;/a&gt;: I would bet he's an A as long as he stays healthy this year. 1.5 above-average seasons usually gets you there.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-203567"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#26@<a href="#comment-203553" rel="nofollow">John Conniff</a>: </p>
<p>(Prospects) If we&#8217;re holding out for a Rasmus-level prospect, it&#8217;s almost certainly not happening. I&#8217;d trade Wolf and Maddux for a lot of players who aren&#8217;t as highly thought of as Rasmus and aren&#8217;t in the top 50-100 prospects. I&#8217;d trade them for a lot of guys who are already in the majors but undervalued or superfluous to their own teams. </p>
<p>(First Base) I doubt there&#8217;s sold on Blanks. Even if they were, he&#8217;s still just one guy. Agon wants to test free agency, Blanks flames out in AAA, we&#8217;re stuck. I&#8217;m happy with the team taking the player they wanted regardless of position; I&#8217;m currently withholding judgment on whether they should have wanted Dykstra or not. </p>
<p>#27@<a href="#comment-203554" rel="nofollow">John Conniff</a>: I don&#8217;t need a top prospect for Wolf, but that&#8217;s me. If  Wolf landed us Aaron Heilmann, I&#8217;d do that deal quickly and without looking back. </p>
<p>#28@<a href="#comment-203560" rel="nofollow">Field39</a>: I would bet he&#8217;s an A as long as he stays healthy this year. 1.5 above-average seasons usually gets you there.
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		<title>By: Field39</title>
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		<dc:creator>Field39</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#27@&lt;a href="#comment-203554" rel="nofollow"&gt;John Conniff&lt;/a&gt;: It also depends on what kind compensaion pick they would get. With all the time he missed last year, he may get a B rating.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-203560"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#27@<a href="#comment-203554" rel="nofollow">John Conniff</a>: It also depends on what kind compensaion pick they would get. With all the time he missed last year, he may get a B rating.
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		<title>By: John Conniff</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Conniff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#25@&lt;a href="#comment-203551" rel="nofollow"&gt;Field39&lt;/a&gt;: I agree, but I think as Tom pointed out it depends what you can get for him.  I just don't see that many organizations that have minor league talent so deep they can give a top prospect for a three month rental.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-203554"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#25@<a href="#comment-203551" rel="nofollow">Field39</a>: I agree, but I think as Tom pointed out it depends what you can get for him.  I just don&#8217;t see that many organizations that have minor league talent so deep they can give a top prospect for a three month rental.
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		<title>By: John Conniff</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Conniff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#24@&lt;a href="#comment-203550" rel="nofollow"&gt;Tom Waits&lt;/a&gt;: The key phrase that you use is "halfway good".  If trading Giles and Bell could bring back someone like Rasmus I would do the trade now.

On AGon/Dystra it seems that Blanks should fit your insurance scenario, so again its still a little puzzling to spend that much and more importantly use a first round pick on someone like Dykstra - but others probably have much more information than I have.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-203553"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#24@<a href="#comment-203550" rel="nofollow">Tom Waits</a>: The key phrase that you use is &#8220;halfway good&#8221;.  If trading Giles and Bell could bring back someone like Rasmus I would do the trade now.</p>
<p>On AGon/Dystra it seems that Blanks should fit your insurance scenario, so again its still a little puzzling to spend that much and more importantly use a first round pick on someone like Dykstra - but others probably have much more information than I have.
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