IGD: Padres vs Tigers (20 Jun 08)
Fri, Jun 20, 2008
by Geoff Young
Padres (31-43) vs Tigers (34-38)
Greg Maddux vs Eddie Bonine
7:05 p.m. PT
Channel 4SD
AM 1090, FM 105.7, XM 189
MLB, B-R
October 10, 1984: The Padres played one of the greatest games — if not the greatest game — in franchise history. They beat the Tigers, 5-3, at what was then known as Jack Murphy Stadium. It’s the only World Series game they’ve ever won, with Andy Hawkins picking up the victory, Craig Lefferts earning the save, and Kurt Bevacqua dealing the death blow in the form of a three-run homer off Dan Petry in the fifth.
The Tigers went on to win the series because, frankly, they were the best team in baseball that year and it wasn’t even close. I actually managed to take in a game at Tiger Stadium that year, and the only thing I remember is that then-future-Padre Joe Carter had just been acquired by the opposing Indians (for then-future Padres broadcaster Rick Sutcliffe, who proceeded to win the Cy Young Award that year for the Cubs — the team San Diego beat to reach the World Series). I believe it was this game or this game.
I’d picked Carter up off waivers in my Rotisserie Baseball league (we didn’t call it Roto back then because, well, there wasn’t really anyone to talk to about that sort of thing outside of the handful of people in the league) and I was happy to see him play in person. He turned out to be a heckuva fantasy player: not only did his anemic OBP not hurt you, it also created more RBI. Of course, I ended up cutting Carter to make room for Brian Dayett, which turned out to be a lousy idea. Oh well…
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Obviously I’m rooting for the Padres (as always), but I hope Bonine pitches well. It’s neat to watch guys you saw in the minors succeed at the big-league level.
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June 20, 2008 at 6:14 pm
OT … for your pre-game entertainment, here’s a fun diddy over at GLB …
http://www.gaslampball.com/200.....i#comments
June 20, 2008 at 6:36 pm
#1@LynchMOb: LM, that was funny. However, if memory serves, I think the batter has to get ‘time’ from the ump to step out of the box. It is usually a ‘given’ to let a batter adjust his gloves or guards and such. But, I don’t believe there is any rule that restricts a pitcher from switching his glove frome one hand to the other and throw as such.
Sorry, I’m too tired from work to research it. But, damn that was good!
June 20, 2008 at 6:56 pm
Sounds like a rubber match tonight.
June 20, 2008 at 7:06 pm
Not a good way to start off the night.
June 20, 2008 at 7:13 pm
Nice shot for Jody. Reluctantly, that was playable.
June 20, 2008 at 7:16 pm
This is the team they decide to run against?
June 20, 2008 at 7:18 pm
#6@Field39: This is the team they decide to run against?
Game’s not over. That remains to be seen…
June 20, 2008 at 7:22 pm
Huber is back in San Diego, sounds like Kouz is headed for the DL.
June 20, 2008 at 7:27 pm
OT: I finally got a copy of the June edition of Padres Magazine and read the Geoff Young article. Very cool. GY, you made the little big time! Good pics of you and Sandra. I really enjoyed the article and passed it around Solar Turbines.
June 20, 2008 at 7:35 pm
At least DBacks lost tonight.
June 20, 2008 at 7:38 pm
OT … ATLANTA THIRD BASEMAN CHIPPER JONES LEFT THE GAME IN THE TOP OF THE EIGHTH INNING DUE TO A STRAINED RIGHT QUADRICEPS … bummer.
June 20, 2008 at 7:41 pm
I hate it when Barrett comes up, and you know that a strikeout is the best possible outcome.
June 20, 2008 at 7:41 pm
Our cries for Barretts head on a platter have gone unheaded … but the evidence of his suckitude mounts …
Thru 2 full …
Pitches-strikes - E Bonine 39-24; G Maddux 26-15.
Ground balls-fly balls - E Bonine 4-1; G Maddux 3-3.
Batters faced - E Bonine 8; G Maddux 9.
June 20, 2008 at 7:49 pm
The Prof. is showing some good location.
June 20, 2008 at 7:53 pm
#14@Turbine Dude: Getting Polanco + Guillen + Ordonez with a runner in scoring position and Cabrera on deck … *The* Prof., indeed!
June 20, 2008 at 7:56 pm
#15@LynchMOb: And then a 5-pitch AB … he can still do it all
June 20, 2008 at 8:04 pm
Rocks are down by 4 in the bottom of the 7th. Maybe we can get a game back with a win tonight….Just wishfull thinking.
June 20, 2008 at 8:07 pm
Summation of the Padres season
Jody singles to open the bottom of the first
Uncle Teddy: The Tigers opened their inning with a homerun, the Padres get a man on aboard and we’ll take it
Jody caught stealing (will someone explain to me why we run on a gold glover but not on someone who couldn’t throw a runner out if he knew it was coming?0
2 hits, 1 walk, no runs
Padre baseball really peeves me sometimes
June 20, 2008 at 8:08 pm
OT … Hensley with 3 nice innings to start the AAA Beaver game tonight …
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....a_poraaa_1
… but now has cough’d up 3 runs in the 4th … HR by Ambres … 3-2 in top of 4th …
June 20, 2008 at 8:11 pm
OT … Cesar Carillo with 2 nice IPs to start the Storm game tonight …
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....a_lesafa_1
… yes!
June 20, 2008 at 8:12 pm
#18@Loren: Guys, quit picking on the base runners for screwups like Jody trying for 2nd or PMac trying for 3rd. It’s the friggin’ base coaches telling them to pull this B.S. They players will take the blame in the post-game interview, but it wasn’t their decision. I agree, it’s frustrating to watch.
June 20, 2008 at 8:12 pm
Just got done reading Part 3 Alderson interview. I wonder how disappointed Sandy was with his SHORTSTOP’s 27 HRs and 98 RBI last year? And I guess defense doesn’t factor into factor into his evaluation, at all. It sounds like Sandy is setting up Khalil’s fan base for the inevitable — something that has been implied in his negative comments on Khalil for the past three years. Of course, it’s a little harder to trade your best defensive player when he nearly leads the team in HRs and RBI.
The Pads should only be disappointed with themselves for not doing a better job at working with Khalil on going the other way or helping him learn to wait on pitches. Easier said than done, and, admittedly, I don’t know to what extent Wally has worked with Khalil — whatever he is doing hasn’t worked, though — but with Khalil’s Sheffield-like quick wrists, it’s a lot easier to work with him than with someone with a longer swing or slower bat.
June 20, 2008 at 8:13 pm
CHASE THAT M****R F****R!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 20, 2008 at 8:13 pm
Headley Lamar goes deep.
June 20, 2008 at 8:15 pm
Newly drafted and signed Sawyer Carroll with his first pro HR tonight for the Eugene Emeralds …
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....x_boiasx_1
June 20, 2008 at 8:17 pm
#24@Field39: LMMFAO @ the Blazing Sadle’s reference.
June 20, 2008 at 8:17 pm
There’s Chase’s 1/2 VORP for today
June 20, 2008 at 8:19 pm
#27@LynchMOb: ‘VORP?’
June 20, 2008 at 8:19 pm
Thru 4 full …
Pitches-strikes - E Bonine 65-44; G Maddux 57-35.
Ground balls-fly balls - E Bonine 5-4; G Maddux 3-7.
Batters faced - E Bonine 16; G Maddux 17.
June 20, 2008 at 8:19 pm
Another bomb for Khalil that amounts to nothing. Although he’d be the last player in MLB to do it, I wish Khalil would take a page from Nevin and greet Sandy with the bird. At least that might hasten his exit from San Diego so he can go hit 40 HRs in another park.
June 20, 2008 at 8:20 pm
#26@Turbine Dude: I love Blazing Saddles.
June 20, 2008 at 8:21 pm
OMG!!! Barrett finally got a runner. He was safe. But he’s out. I don’t care.
June 20, 2008 at 8:27 pm
Way to make Bonine work there - six pitches…
June 20, 2008 at 8:28 pm
#28@Turbine Dude: See today’s comments … VORP is one of the “new stats” … stands for Value over Replacment Player … and is a measure of “wins” (iirc) … and Chase’s stats have earned him about 1.4 VORP during the Yankee series … so I joked earlier today that he’s getting 1/2-VORP per game … I dunno if a HR is worth a 1/2-VORP … but that felt like a pretty valuable HR …
#13@LynchMOb: Kudos to Barrett … his suckitude rating just drop’d a hair … TD … “suckitude” is not one of the “new stats” … it’s a customized rating of my own derivation
June 20, 2008 at 8:30 pm
Thru 5 …
Pitches-strikes - E Bonine 71-49; G Maddux 70-43.
Ground balls-fly balls - E Bonine 7-5; G Maddux 4-7.
Batters faced - E Bonine 19; G Maddux 20.
… seems likely this is Maddux’ last inning … too bad it cost us an AB …
June 20, 2008 at 8:31 pm
I laughed at Mudcat dropping the Blazing Saddles reference after the home run. You know he’s been waiting to use that one.
June 20, 2008 at 8:31 pm
OT … Cleveland with a duece up on the Dogs …
June 20, 2008 at 8:32 pm
#34@LynchMOb: Thanks. Just wondering if we’ll find ‘VORP’ and ‘Suckitude’ in the 2009 DS Annual Glossary? GY?
June 20, 2008 at 8:35 pm
#37@LynchMob: Yeah, Dogs down by 2 and Rocks down by 5 right now.
June 20, 2008 at 8:35 pm
I like Maddux’s near linear sequence of pitches to Cabrera - everything just above the knees, anywhere from six inches inside to eight inches outside.
Let’s get him a lead and a win…
June 20, 2008 at 8:35 pm
#37@LynchMob: I really love this MLB.TV thing…
June 20, 2008 at 8:36 pm
Meanwhile (sorry, this is out of order but I wasn’t at a computer when it happened), Michael Barrett could find a way to hit into a double play with two outs.
June 20, 2008 at 8:37 pm
How many DPs have the Padres hit into tonight? Sheesh.
June 20, 2008 at 8:39 pm
That’s right, pitch around AGon. We have someone to protect him now…
June 20, 2008 at 8:42 pm
Bleh.
June 20, 2008 at 8:45 pm
The Mad Dog doesn’t go after this, does he? I don’t think so. So, who is warming up? Pls. not Meredith. Oh, God pls. not Meredith.
June 20, 2008 at 8:46 pm
The longer Maddux stays in there, the better chance he has of picking up a win…
Nice five-pitch inning.
June 20, 2008 at 8:46 pm
#8@Field39: Huber’s back ? Oh joy….
June 20, 2008 at 8:46 pm
The Prof. just dismissed class.
June 20, 2008 at 8:49 pm
I thought Scotty had that. Damn.
June 20, 2008 at 8:49 pm
Nationals just won in 14 innings. I left after the 10th.
June 20, 2008 at 8:50 pm
KG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CRUSHED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 20, 2008 at 8:50 pm
#30@koo: Take that.
June 20, 2008 at 8:52 pm
What a disappointment!
June 20, 2008 at 8:52 pm
All three runs scored so far have been solo’s. Grrrr.
June 20, 2008 at 8:53 pm
Edit: Complete disappointment!
June 20, 2008 at 8:53 pm
If only we could be walking BEFORE the guys hit the dongs, otherwise the whole “walk-and-a-dong” thing doesn’t really pan out.
Man, this has to be the most inefficient way to win games…
June 20, 2008 at 8:54 pm
I like Tony Clark. But his OBP leaves something to be desired.
June 20, 2008 at 8:56 pm
#57@Steve: If we are going to get half the equation. I will take the home run half.
June 20, 2008 at 8:56 pm
#55@Turbine Dude: Well, it’s a good thing that one of the runs that was scored was on a solo home run.
June 20, 2008 at 8:58 pm
I’ll take Bell for two innings here…
June 20, 2008 at 9:00 pm
#59@Field39: Good point! We’ve seen how bad they are at scoring after those walks.
June 20, 2008 at 9:02 pm
Another solo…
June 20, 2008 at 9:03 pm
C R A P !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 20, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Well, I’ll still put my guns behind Bell.
June 20, 2008 at 9:03 pm
And another no-d for Maddux…
June 20, 2008 at 9:03 pm
#58@Turbine Dude: Clark’s on-base coming into the night was .391, which is excellent.
June 20, 2008 at 9:05 pm
#67@Kevin: I stand corrected. I still like the guy.
June 20, 2008 at 9:05 pm
Somebody please go trade Maddux so he can get a frakking win, because he can’t here in San Diego.
June 20, 2008 at 9:07 pm
The bullpen hates Maddux.
June 20, 2008 at 9:09 pm
#51@Kevin: Elijah Dukes night, huh? How’s he look? And how are the reports on his mental/attitude/etc? I like to root for guys like this rebound … but his background pushes my limits to the max …
June 20, 2008 at 9:09 pm
There’s the walk. Now let’s get the dong and not the DP.
June 20, 2008 at 9:11 pm
#72 - what team have you been watching? Double play ordered up like in-n-out
June 20, 2008 at 9:13 pm
Should OG bunt?
June 20, 2008 at 9:13 pm
#73@Loren: Double Double? Where’s the friggin’ fries?
June 20, 2008 at 9:14 pm
OK, If they can’t score on this, I’m fu*king pissed!
June 20, 2008 at 9:15 pm
#75
left on teh base along with most of their damn base runners
June 20, 2008 at 9:15 pm
#71@LynchMob: Dukes went 5-for-6, stole two bases. Looked great. He had some sort of incident last week. Forgot what it was.
Josh Hamilton went 0-for-6, and Milton Bradley went 0-for-1 (ph in NL park), and those were the players I went to see.
June 20, 2008 at 9:17 pm
3 walks, oh yeah lets see the padres walk, hbp and double play
June 20, 2008 at 9:17 pm
Bases f*cking loaded and no outs. What are the chances that we hit into a DP?
June 20, 2008 at 9:17 pm
OK - let’s go deep…
June 20, 2008 at 9:18 pm
#80@Turbine Dude: None.
June 20, 2008 at 9:18 pm
nice. at least Bell has a shot at the win, but I feel bad for Mad Dog.
June 20, 2008 at 9:19 pm
AGone is totally carrying this team in OF/DF.
June 20, 2008 at 9:19 pm
#82@Turbine Dude: Innings not over…
June 20, 2008 at 9:20 pm
#85@Sean Callahan: Touche’. BTW, I hate the French.
June 20, 2008 at 9:21 pm
#85@Sean Callahan: If Scotty hits the ball, it will be in the air.
June 20, 2008 at 9:22 pm
#86@Turbine Dude: At least by the time Barrett GIDPs, we should have scored at least one more run.
June 20, 2008 at 9:23 pm
I’m curious what the count on Adrian was when he hit that 2-run single … anybody remember?
June 20, 2008 at 9:23 pm
#80@Turbine Dude: Again I ask the question…
June 20, 2008 at 9:23 pm
#87@Field39: He has two ground outs tonight, but Hariston can drive another one in, Greene can strike out and Barrett can fulfil his role…
June 20, 2008 at 9:25 pm
OH DOCTOR!!!!
I’m always glad to be proven wrong!
June 20, 2008 at 9:25 pm
#90@Turbine Dude: What lead would you like before you stop ripping the team?
June 20, 2008 at 9:25 pm
#91@Sean Callahan: Khalil has to walk now… Like that’s going to happen.
June 20, 2008 at 9:26 pm
Is there any rationale for Maddux not to be credited with the win tonight, except for that’s the way it is and has always been, I mean? If “traditionalists” are reluctant to change the scoring on who gets the win, I have a novel idea:
A pitcher who enters the game with a lead and blows the lead, shouldn’t get the win!!!! I’d feel better with no one getting the win than giving it to the reliever.
The current ruling makes about as much sense as the GWRBI did.
June 20, 2008 at 9:27 pm
Still no outs. Outstanding. Then again, look who we are playing.
June 20, 2008 at 9:27 pm
#94@Sean Callahan: Well, Barrett can only line into a DP now. That requires him to hit the ball hard, so it shouldn’t be much of a risk…
June 20, 2008 at 9:28 pm
Looks like the Padres all of a sudden remembered they’re the frakking padres, and can’t do anything more
June 20, 2008 at 9:29 pm
#98@Loren: Good thing Agon and Harriston got the job done first before Greene & Barrett could screw up 2nd & 3rd and nobody out…
June 20, 2008 at 9:29 pm
#93@Kevin: One that would quit leaving runners on base when they are loaded.
I don’t rip our team. Just feel like Randy Quade in Major Leage ll.
June 20, 2008 at 9:30 pm
#95@koo: If I remember correctly, the official scorer has the right to do just what you are suggesting. Give the win to the pitcher that pitched the best.
But because official scorers want to play by the book and not be controversial and players and managers would probably whine about not getting wins or getting losses they didn’t want, it’s not done, I think.
June 20, 2008 at 9:31 pm
If I were the official scorer, I’d give Maddux this W … but I just re-read the rules, and it’s no-can-do … crummy rules … perhaps GY can talk to SA about this next time he’s in there
June 20, 2008 at 9:32 pm
#101@Kevin: Only if the starter doesn’t go five innings and the relievers never relinquish the lead.
June 20, 2008 at 9:32 pm