Comments on: Air Supply or Suicide?

By: Schlom

Schlom — Sun, 29 Jun 2008 02:41:53 +0000

#113@Tom Waits: A day late unfortunately but why do you say that Matt Bush pick was a mistake? You think it was but the Padres have a lot more information on him then you do. I can think of some justifications right now that make it a good pick. By your logic, that means it was a good decision then. So why are you saying it was bad?

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By: Geoff Young

Geoff Young — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 09:51:45 +0000

#79@JMAR: Except for Game 162 last year, of course. I find it interesting that while Trevor took a fair amount of grief for his role in the Padres’ collapse, Tomko largely got a free pass despite imploding in the season’s final regularly scheduled game:

http://www.baseball-reference......9300.shtml

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By: Tom Waits

Tom Waits — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 03:21:01 +0000

#107@JP: Like I said, Bay wasn't even a Padre Top 10 prospect in 2003, when the farm was barren. I always liked his skills, but he wasn't considered a serious prospect by most baseball types when he was traded. And like I said, there's not a good match for Perez. In fact I wrote the pitcher who would match Perez is a pitcher we don't have now, but LeBlanc is probably the closest match. #112@Schlom: Schlom, you were massively confused 12 hours ago. I wouldn't know what to call your current state. People have explained time and again that there are all sorts of bad decisions - because they were poorly considered and supported when they were made, NOT because of what happened afterward. Matt Bush will have been a bad decision even if he turns out to be Heath Bell. Cesar Carrillo will have been a good decision if he never pitches a major league inning.

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By: Schlom

Schlom — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 02:20:53 +0000

#104@Tom Waits: I massively confused now. Basically, you are saying that if the decision to make a move (whether trade or draft pick) was good, therefore the move was good one. So there is really no such thing as a bad move because I'm sure every move has it justifications. Heck, it's easy to justify the Matt Bush pick. Personally, I think that's just a cop-out and a way for GM's to remove blame for their decision.

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By: JP

JP — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 02:11:57 +0000

And earlier today, I was saying that the future looks bright with that nice crop of starters at the AA level. It is quite a pitching staff at San Antonio but no one in that everyday lineup knocks anyone’s socks off, and the same can be said for Portland.

As far as position players are concerned, the cupboard looks incredibly bare to me AND is very much of a concern. It’s been weird this year (2008) seeing all the scrubs getting time at this level as sort of a 1993 Padres sceanario where guys like Mark Ettles, Kevin Eberwein or Kevin Higgins get time that they should be paying the Padres to get……

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By: JP

JP — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 01:58:27 +0000

Look at how incredibly young the Rangers prospects are. Not to mention how much further along they are then a guy like Chad Huffman. To me, every time Schlom critiques our drafting and player dev. history it is justified because yes, it is recent and worth being redundant on at this point…. Chris Davis is 22. Eric Hurley is 23. The Reds Jay Bruce is 21…..and on and on and on…. So yes, we can indeed critique the Draft of 2005 or 2006– indeed we can.

Even a non prospect in their talent logjam like 25 year old Ranger Brandon Boggs is outperforming many major leaguers. What are the odds of a non-prospect like 25 year old Drew Macias or Josh Alley performing at the level of Brandon Boggs ? Must be nice for the Rangers to easily justify to fans that telling Milton Bradley to get lost is the way to go. The Rangers brass has already leaked to the local media that Bradley and his .1070 OPS is not in their plans.

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By: JP

JP — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 01:27:23 +0000

#108@JP: I don't think the Rangers are missing Grady Fuson a whole heck of a lot at this point.

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By: JP

JP — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 01:25:58 +0000

The are dancing in the aisles in Arlington. Super prospect Chris Davis hit a homerun tonight in his first start. The Rangers are suddenly absolutely loaded !

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By: JP

JP — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 01:18:40 +0000

Huffman and Leblanc for Bay. Is that the same as Bay and Perez for Giles ? I don’t mean to split hairs but I have been perusing Bay’s minor league numbers and on the surface I can see more proven value and real power upside with the then 23 year old Bay then the 23 year old Huffman (the Pads do draft them in late in age don’t they). Look at how much more experience Bay had at 23 then Huffman !!!

Also there is no doubt that Oliver Perez in 2003 has way more upside value (not to mention ‘electric’ stuff) than Leblanc. For that one rookie season prior to Perez’s 2nd bad season with the Pads the 22 year old had already showed dominating #1 starter potential…

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By: Turbine Dude

Turbine Dude — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 01:16:19 +0000

Joining late…just home from work.

I don’t think I would ever consider going head to head with Waits, Young, or Friberg. Too big of hole to climb out of.

I heard about the Tomko deal on the way home. I’m not sure how I feel about that. This has become the soap opera ‘As The Padres Turn.’

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