Comments on: Winning Is Better Than Knitting http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/05/winning-is-better-than-knitting.html Blogging the San Diego Padres baseball club. Established 1997. Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:13:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Pat http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/05/winning-is-better-than-knitting.html#comment-179338 Pat Fri, 02 May 2008 04:32:24 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2483#comment-179338 #59@<a href="#comment-179267" rel="nofollow">Richard D.</a>: "I care if he can get guys out now.. not in 2001." Right, 2001, let's ignore the highly consistent results of each of the past 4 seasons. "And I don’t think you can call my numbers “cherry picking” because they are the most recent numbers…" Cherry picking is exactly what it is. You've arbitrarily selected a cutoff date which only, or primarily, includes data supporting your position. What is your basis for not including the 30 appearances prior to August as well? Does it distort the numbers you're using? What happens if you do include them? Any response to the possiblitly August and September of last year could have been a result of bone chips?<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-179338">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> #59@Richard D.: “I care if he can get guys out now.. not in 2001.”

Right, 2001, let’s ignore the highly consistent results of each of the past 4 seasons.

“And I don’t think you can call my numbers “cherry picking” because they are the most recent numbers…”

Cherry picking is exactly what it is. You’ve arbitrarily selected a cutoff date which only, or primarily, includes data supporting your position. What is your basis for not including the 30 appearances prior to August as well? Does it distort the numbers you’re using? What happens if you do include them? Any response to the possiblitly August and September of last year could have been a result of bone chips?

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]]> By: Richard D. http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/05/winning-is-better-than-knitting.html#comment-179267 Richard D. Fri, 02 May 2008 01:28:37 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2483#comment-179267 #48@<a href="#comment-179179" rel="nofollow">Pat</a>: When I say "his name" I mean what you're saying: all that he's done.... which I don't care about. I care if he can get guys out now.. not in 2001. And I don't think you can call my numbers "cherry picking" because they are the most recent numbers... cherry picking would be picking 30 appearances from August - Sept. 2002.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-179267">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> #48@Pat: When I say “his name” I mean what you’re saying: all that he’s done…. which I don’t care about. I care if he can get guys out now.. not in 2001.

And I don’t think you can call my numbers “cherry picking” because they are the most recent numbers… cherry picking would be picking 30 appearances from August - Sept. 2002.

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]]> By: malcolm http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/05/winning-is-better-than-knitting.html#comment-179265 malcolm Fri, 02 May 2008 01:25:17 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2483#comment-179265 Just to blow out the last of this frustration. The Padres were the only team in the last 15 years in either league to lead the league in ERA and finish lower than 2nd in their division. As I see it, only twice( LA both times) in 15 years did a NL team, top in ERA, not win their division, and one of the those years LA made the playoffs. It happened 3 or 4 times in the AL(twice by NY or Bost who made the playoffs). That is a pretty radical stat, if I didnt miss something. If the hitting was ok, and we know the fielding was very good, manager ok, what caused this unprecedented occurance? Whatever you attribute it to, how was that addressed this offseason? BTW 15 years chosen because that was realiegnment, I believe. Sorry guys, no more digging up negative stats.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-179265">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> Just to blow out the last of this frustration. The Padres were the only team in the last 15 years in either league to lead the league in ERA and finish lower than 2nd in their division. As I see it, only twice( LA both times) in 15 years did a NL team, top in ERA, not win their division, and one of the those years LA made the playoffs. It happened 3 or 4 times in the AL(twice by NY or Bost who made the playoffs). That is a pretty radical stat, if I didnt miss something. If the hitting was ok, and we know the fielding was very good, manager ok, what caused this unprecedented occurance? Whatever you attribute it to, how was that addressed this offseason? BTW 15 years chosen because that was realiegnment, I believe. Sorry guys, no more digging up negative stats.

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]]> By: malcolm http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/05/winning-is-better-than-knitting.html#comment-179250 malcolm Fri, 02 May 2008 00:48:40 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2483#comment-179250 Pointing out problems may actually be symptomatic of more radical, fanatical, affection for one's team,......especially if you live in a fringe Padre-hostile area like the OC. eg I'm off to go runing with a club where about 50 there may point out the Padres standing vs. the Angels and Dogs.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-179250">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> Pointing out problems may actually be symptomatic of more radical, fanatical, affection for one’s team,……especially if you live in a fringe Padre-hostile area like the OC. eg I’m off to go runing with a club where about 50 there may point out the Padres standing vs. the Angels and Dogs.

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]]> By: Didi http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/05/winning-is-better-than-knitting.html#comment-179230 Didi Fri, 02 May 2008 00:09:11 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2483#comment-179230 42: You are nuts. Kouz = Arias? Hairston = Owens? Last I check Bard is a little better than average the last two seasons. Yes, he's taking his slump right now but he seems to be handling the staff just fine. 55: He's frustrated with the team as much as we are but our harping on the suckiness that is currently the Padres aren't helping.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-179230">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> 42: You are nuts. Kouz = Arias? Hairston = Owens?
Last I check Bard is a little better than average the last two seasons.
Yes, he’s taking his slump right now but he seems to be handling the staff just fine.

55: He’s frustrated with the team as much as we are but our harping on the suckiness that is currently the Padres aren’t helping.

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]]> By: Kevin http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/05/winning-is-better-than-knitting.html#comment-179219 Kevin Thu, 01 May 2008 23:26:15 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2483#comment-179219 #54@<a href="#comment-179202" rel="nofollow">Geoff Young</a>: You seem more snarky of late. I love it.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-179219">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> #54@Geoff Young: You seem more snarky of late. I love it.

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]]> By: Geoff Young http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/05/winning-is-better-than-knitting.html#comment-179202 Geoff Young Thu, 01 May 2008 22:54:31 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2483#comment-179202 #53@<a href="#comment-179198" rel="nofollow">Tom Waits</a>: Yeah, that ain't really working, but I appreciate the thought.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-179202">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> #53@Tom Waits: Yeah, that ain’t really working, but I appreciate the thought.

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]]> By: Tom Waits http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/05/winning-is-better-than-knitting.html#comment-179198 Tom Waits Thu, 01 May 2008 22:53:10 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2483#comment-179198 #51@<a href="#comment-179187" rel="nofollow">Geoff Young</a>: Serenity Now!<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-179198">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> #51@Geoff Young: Serenity Now!

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]]> By: Tom Waits http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/05/winning-is-better-than-knitting.html#comment-179195 Tom Waits Thu, 01 May 2008 22:50:17 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2483#comment-179195 #50@<a href="#comment-179183" rel="nofollow">malcolm</a>: #45@<a href="#comment-179166" rel="nofollow">Schlom</a>: Last year's team had an OPS+ of 101 and an ERA+ of 108. The hitting wasn't as bad as many people think, the pitching wasn't as great, but the pitching still pulled more of a load. The pitching only let us down in September, when CY was hurt, we had trouble at the back of the rotation, and the team panicked and threw Jake on short rest.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-179195">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> #50@malcolm:

#45@Schlom:

Last year’s team had an OPS+ of 101 and an ERA+ of 108. The hitting wasn’t as bad as many people think, the pitching wasn’t as great, but the pitching still pulled more of a load.

The pitching only let us down in September, when CY was hurt, we had trouble at the back of the rotation, and the team panicked and threw Jake on short rest.

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]]> By: Geoff Young http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/05/winning-is-better-than-knitting.html#comment-179187 Geoff Young Thu, 01 May 2008 22:24:11 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2483#comment-179187 #18@<a href="#comment-179079" rel="nofollow">michael</a>: Excellent suggestion, thanks! #36@<a href="#comment-179139" rel="nofollow">malcolm</a>: Cool. Last I checked, 4.3% is more than 0. #41@<a href="#comment-179160" rel="nofollow">Bryan</a>: And yet, if they couldn't hit, they wouldn't have pounded four homers in two games. #44@<a href="#comment-179165" rel="nofollow">Steve C</a>: Thanks, man. I can do a "Padres suck" blog if folks would prefer that. It will be immediately followed by a letter of resignation. Come to think of it, that actually sounds like a reasonable option at this point.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-179187">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> #18@michael: Excellent suggestion, thanks!

#36@malcolm: Cool. Last I checked, 4.3% is more than 0.

#41@Bryan: And yet, if they couldn’t hit, they wouldn’t have pounded four homers in two games.

#44@Steve C: Thanks, man. I can do a “Padres suck” blog if folks would prefer that. It will be immediately followed by a letter of resignation. Come to think of it, that actually sounds like a reasonable option at this point.

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