Comments on: The Shape of Things to Come http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/05/the-shape-of-things-to-come.html Blogging the San Diego Padres baseball club. Established 1997. Fri, 22 Aug 2008 02:57:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Tom Waits http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/05/the-shape-of-things-to-come.html#comment-182165 Tom Waits Thu, 08 May 2008 02:25:10 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2498#comment-182165 #155@<a href="#comment-182045" rel="nofollow">Steve C</a>: 40 man roster. The player's union won't negotiate a draft cap because they don't want to agree to any cap on payments. Once you agree that the owners can set artificial limits on incoming labor, it's a much smaller step to allowing them to set limits on existing labor. The funny thing is, if all those great business minds of the owners hadn't insisted on draft pick compensation for free agents, the union wouldn't have anything to say about the draft. #155@Steve C: 40 man roster.

The player’s union won’t negotiate a draft cap because they don’t want to agree to any cap on payments. Once you agree that the owners can set artificial limits on incoming labor, it’s a much smaller step to allowing them to set limits on existing labor.

The funny thing is, if all those great business minds of the owners hadn’t insisted on draft pick compensation for free agents, the union wouldn’t have anything to say about the draft.

]]> By: Geoff Young http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/05/the-shape-of-things-to-come.html#comment-182072 Geoff Young Wed, 07 May 2008 23:26:05 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2498#comment-182072 #138@<a href="#comment-182012" rel="nofollow">SDSUBaseball</a>: Okay, this is a different complaint. It's not that he's hurt all the time, it's that he pitched while he was hurt last year. Well, that's one isolated incident. As for the home/road, we will agree to disagree. I find it interesting that before he came to the Padres, CY had no trouble in Arlington, which is most unkind to pitchers. #138@SDSUBaseball: Okay, this is a different complaint. It’s not that he’s hurt all the time, it’s that he pitched while he was hurt last year. Well, that’s one isolated incident. As for the home/road, we will agree to disagree. I find it interesting that before he came to the Padres, CY had no trouble in Arlington, which is most unkind to pitchers.

]]> By: BigWorm http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/05/the-shape-of-things-to-come.html#comment-182056 BigWorm Wed, 07 May 2008 23:05:35 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2498#comment-182056 Not sure if anyone has noticed yet, but Headley has been pretty darn hot over his last 10 games. . .yeah, I know, small sample size. But it at least gives me hope that he is up in a few more weeks. . . Not sure if anyone has noticed yet, but Headley has been pretty darn hot over his last 10 games. . .yeah, I know, small sample size. But it at least gives me hope that he is up in a few more weeks. . .

]]> By: JP http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/05/the-shape-of-things-to-come.html#comment-182055 JP Wed, 07 May 2008 22:55:57 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2498#comment-182055 Great discussion today guys ! Greatest sports blog on earth. You must think critically to participate in this blog and it starts at the top. Awesome Geoff ! Great discussion today guys ! Greatest sports blog on earth. You must think critically to participate in this blog and it starts at the top. Awesome Geoff !

]]> By: Steve C http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/05/the-shape-of-things-to-come.html#comment-182054 Steve C Wed, 07 May 2008 22:53:02 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2498#comment-182054 #156@<a href="#comment-182048" rel="nofollow">Lance Richardson</a>: Why? That’s money that the MLBPA will never see, the only reason I would see it becoming an issues is so that the MLBPA could use it as a chip in their next round of negotiations so that they can give it up to get something else. #156@Lance Richardson: Why? That’s money that the MLBPA will never see, the only reason I would see it becoming an issues is so that the MLBPA could use it as a chip in their next round of negotiations so that they can give it up to get something else.

]]> By: Lance Richardson http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/05/the-shape-of-things-to-come.html#comment-182048 Lance Richardson Wed, 07 May 2008 22:48:57 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2498#comment-182048 #155@<a href="#comment-182045" rel="nofollow">Steve C</a>: I'm pretty sure the MLBPA has considerable influence over rules affecting draft choices. Were the owners to implement a firm and unbreakable slotting system, I suspect you'd see a labor stoppage in short order. #155@Steve C:

I’m pretty sure the MLBPA has considerable influence over rules affecting draft choices. Were the owners to implement a firm and unbreakable slotting system, I suspect you’d see a labor stoppage in short order.

]]> By: Steve C http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/05/the-shape-of-things-to-come.html#comment-182045 Steve C Wed, 07 May 2008 22:45:17 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2498#comment-182045 #153@<a href="#comment-182042" rel="nofollow">Lance Richardson</a>: MLBPA does not kick in until you are on the 25 man roster I belive. I would imagine they would want a slot system to free up more money for the Vets in the MLBPA. #153@Lance Richardson: MLBPA does not kick in until you are on the 25 man roster I belive. I would imagine they would want a slot system to free up more money for the Vets in the MLBPA.

]]> By: Lance Richardson http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/05/the-shape-of-things-to-come.html#comment-182043 Lance Richardson Wed, 07 May 2008 22:43:10 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2498#comment-182043 Comment 153 was directed at Steve , #117... Comment 153 was directed at Steve , #117…

]]> By: Lance Richardson http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/05/the-shape-of-things-to-come.html#comment-182042 Lance Richardson Wed, 07 May 2008 22:42:23 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2498#comment-182042 The NBA Players Association isn't nearly as powerful as the MLBPA. The NBA Players Association isn’t nearly as powerful as the MLBPA.

]]> By: Steve C http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/05/the-shape-of-things-to-come.html#comment-182040 Steve C Wed, 07 May 2008 22:38:46 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2498#comment-182040 #149@<a href="#comment-182032" rel="nofollow">SDSUBaseball</a>: who knows but I get the impression that the guys on the radio do not follow the pads farm system as closely as we do and if they did it would not be interesting to most of their listeners to talk about it, where its the exact opposite here. #149@SDSUBaseball: who knows but I get the impression that the guys on the radio do not follow the pads farm system as closely as we do and if they did it would not be interesting to most of their listeners to talk about it, where its the exact opposite here.

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