IGD: Padres @ Mariners (18 May 08)
Sun, May 18, 2008
by Geoff Young
Padres (16-28) @ Mariners (17-27)
Shawn Estes vs Felix Hernandez
1:10 p.m. PT
Channel 4SD
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Seven useless facts about Estes:
- His first name is Aaron.
- He shares a birthday with Jerry Morales, a member of the 1969 Padres.
- The Mariners selected him with the 11th pick overall in 1991, three picks after the Padres took Joey Hamilton and two before the Cleveland Indians nabbed Manny Ramirez.
- Deion Sanders was the center fielder behind him in his first big-league start.
- He wore #36 on first arriving in the big leagues, but soon switched to #55, which he has donned since 1996.
- He once was traded for ex-Padre Desi Relaford.
- He later was traded for ex-Padre Brady Clark.
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May 18, 2008 at 10:00 am
Desi Relaford was also a Mariner if memory serves me correctly.
May 18, 2008 at 10:07 am
Great information on Shawn “Schlom” Estes.
Come on Schlom - stop fighting it. You’re a closet Estes Fan and it’s time that you started admitting it…..
May 18, 2008 at 10:59 am
It’s probably not fair to say this, but just based on game 163 from last year I hate Brady Clark.
May 18, 2008 at 11:01 am
#2@Marsh: Estes would be a lot more palpable for me if his first initial was “T”. Then at least it would be funny everytime I thought about it.
May 18, 2008 at 11:26 am
#4@Masticore317: You’re on a roll Masticore !!!
May 18, 2008 at 12:22 pm
Peavy missing next start with elbow soreness. The wheels keep falling off this bus.
May 18, 2008 at 12:47 pm
Wow ! Look at that Padre’s lineup. I am sure Felix the Cat is shaking in his cleats !
May 18, 2008 at 1:07 pm
Jake Peavy will miss his scheduled start on Monday for the San Diego Padres, bothered by soreness in his pitching elbow.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=3402064
May 18, 2008 at 1:11 pm
#6@Zagz:
#8@Kevin:
I wonder if NOW it will be okay to talk about trades that are geared towards 2009 and beyond.
May 18, 2008 at 1:16 pm
#9@Tom Waits: How many years do you guess Giles has left in the tank ?
May 18, 2008 at 1:24 pm
#9@Tom Waits: If Jakes goes down hard, and they trade Wolf and Maddux, it will be a very ugly second half.
May 18, 2008 at 1:27 pm
#11
As opposed to the lightning quick start we’ve experienced thus far?
May 18, 2008 at 1:35 pm
#9@Tom Waits: If Peavy misses one start, I don’t see what has changed.
You can talk about anything you want.
It was the posts that said: “The season is over!” after one month that made little sense.
May 18, 2008 at 1:38 pm
I think I remember Bud Black saying that P-Mac could fall out of bed and hit the ball….Um, yeah, sure…
May 18, 2008 at 1:50 pm
More atrocious baserunning to kill an inning. Just another day at the ol’ ballpark for the Pads
#13@Kevin: If Jake is gone for awhile (and from reading that ESPN article it’s pretty easy to see that he’s going to end up on the DL - elbow soreness on *every* pitch for the last couple of weeks is never good), then I’m ready to talk about trades for 2009 and beyond. There is absolutely no sense in taking the slightest risk with Jake’s elbow this year. None.
May 18, 2008 at 1:52 pm
Repeat after me - “No matter how well Estes pitches he is bad”. “No matter how well Estes pitches he is bad”.”No matter how well Estes pitches he is bad”.”No matter how well Estes pitches he is bad”.
May 18, 2008 at 1:54 pm
#15@Jefe: Kouz was gambeling there. The upside is a run, the downside a double play.
May 18, 2008 at 1:54 pm
#13@Kevin: If by “the season is over” we are referring to the chances of the Padres making the postseason, it was entirely reasonable by May 1 to say so. By that point the Padres chances of making the playoffs had fallen from perhaps 25% at the beginning of the season to below 2% by at least one measure (BP’s Post Season Odds). Since then we’ve fallen less than 1% more, to about 1.1% today.
May 18, 2008 at 1:56 pm
wow !!!!!!!!!
May 18, 2008 at 1:58 pm
#16@JP: Good start from Schlom Estes…..
May 18, 2008 at 1:58 pm
#18@dprat: All good organizations have a down year or two..hopefully spread out. It would be huge if our down year was right about .500
May 18, 2008 at 2:12 pm
I’m a Carlin fan. Really would like to have Barrett around as well.
May 18, 2008 at 2:15 pm
Repeat after me: Freeze on a line drive!
May 18, 2008 at 2:25 pm
#21@JP: I’d be pretty happy if the Padres finish around .500 given where they are now. And, BTW, I appreciate and value the enthusiasm for the Padres of most posters here at DS. It’s what fandom is about; as Turbine Dude has said, we love this team, good times and bad. I just wanted to point out that the naysayers on May 1 were looking at 49-1 odds against, and calling it as they saw it.
May 18, 2008 at 2:29 pm
#24@dprat: It’s a love of the game our fathers taught us.
May 18, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Tony Clark is three pianos slow.
May 18, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Estes is unstoppable!
May 18, 2008 at 2:35 pm
#15@Jefe: I agree with that. I don’t think my post disagreed with that.
May 18, 2008 at 2:36 pm
Estes has nearly as many balls as strikes….this is just like when Germano gave us that 2nd great start last year (also against the M’s) after being called up… you knew it was too good to last, but you had to hope…..
May 18, 2008 at 2:37 pm
I’m at the point that I don’t want to see any of our middle relievers in the game.
May 18, 2008 at 2:38 pm
#24@dprat: But “calling it” was premature because of the sample size.
May 18, 2008 at 2:38 pm
Another great inning by Schlom Estes!
May 18, 2008 at 2:41 pm
#31@Kevin: There is a point where the FO will have to make that call, if they are to use this season in a constructive manner.
May 18, 2008 at 2:41 pm
#25@Turbine Dude: Do you mean Fathers as in Padres?
May 18, 2008 at 2:43 pm
P-mac is dead to me.
May 18, 2008 at 2:43 pm
#22@Turbine Dude: I dont see any reason to have Barrett on the squad.
May 18, 2008 at 2:48 pm
#33@Field39: I totally agree. The thing is that is not a one or the other argument. Pushing the restart button and starting Headley and others could make the team better. It is not necessarily a concession move.
One of my friends who is a Red Sox fan said 1987 was an exciting year for him even though the team went 78-84 because they brought up Mike Greenwell, Ellis Burks and Sam Horn, and it was fun to see the future.
May 18, 2008 at 2:49 pm
Estes is entering the Bermuda triangle of Padre starters, the seventh inning.
May 18, 2008 at 2:49 pm
this feels eerily similar to last night…..
May 18, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Padre starters are averaging 5.9 innings per start. St Louis is leading the NL, with 6.0.
May 18, 2008 at 2:56 pm
#25@Turbine Dude: In my case, more my mother.
But your point is well-taken… it’s a game that gets in your blood.
May 18, 2008 at 2:57 pm
Estes threw 80+ in six innings. If Bud doesn’t have “confidence” in Meredith, he has issues.
May 18, 2008 at 3:00 pm
Thank you for putting Meredith in.
May 18, 2008 at 3:04 pm
Great job all around there. Buddy didn’t wait too long and he played the matchups beautifully. It was bad luck Cla didn’t roll us a pair… Sweet heat from Heath…
May 18, 2008 at 3:06 pm
ESPN.com’s GameCast is screwy.
May 18, 2008 at 3:13 pm
#29@Marsh: It is VERY reminiscent of Germano last year. He started off not allowing runs even though his peripherals were terrible. It wasn’t long before he started allowing all kinds of runs.
I’m glad Estes gave up only one run. But no pitcher is successful with 1 strikeout every 3 innings.
May 18, 2008 at 3:21 pm
What is happening right now?
May 18, 2008 at 3:24 pm
F*CK!
May 18, 2008 at 3:24 pm
I blame those really cheap hits by Vidro and Betancourt.
May 18, 2008 at 3:37 pm
Another day, another loss. This season has gone down the pocelain fixture, all that’s left is the stench.
May 18, 2008 at 3:38 pm
It’s annoying to lose a game where you outplay the other team.
May 18, 2008 at 3:39 pm
I’m pretty sure that I could strike out KG. I couldn’t strike out Barrett in highschool in about 15-20 at bats, but he didn’t have such a clear problem with low and outside sliders. Geesh.
May 18, 2008 at 4:09 pm
I’ve had enough of the P-Mac/Huber experiment. I don’t care if Headley is ready, something has to be done to help our LF situation. We run one inept guy after the other out there every night. I say give Ambres a shot just to see someone different out there.
May 18, 2008 at 4:25 pm
#53@Masticore317: Chase is tearing it up in AAA, and they don’t seem to want him around. Maybe they should trade Chase to a team that isn’t so stacked with hitters.
May 18, 2008 at 4:45 pm
#53@Masticore317:
#54@Field39:
One of the 3 best major league hitters in history is currently unemployed, and he happens to be a LF.
I wouldn’t promote Chase now, either. The focus should be on being better next year. Another 100 at-bats in Triple A can only help.
May 18, 2008 at 5:08 pm
Not a completely wasted day thanks to Masticore and Shawn(T Ball) Estes.
May 18, 2008 at 5:51 pm
#53@Masticore317: PMAC & Huber > painful to watch I know. But remember and also keep repeating to yourself as we hit the long, hot summer and they continue to flail…”but their minor league stats were good so you never know ,but their minor league stats were good so you never know,but their minor league stats were good so you never know, but their minor league stats were good so you never know…..
May 18, 2008 at 6:00 pm
#55@Tom Waits: All three of the three best hitters ever are unemployed.
May 18, 2008 at 6:17 pm
#57@JP: McAnulty has struggled recently, but he’s still outhitting Hairston, Bard, Kouzmanoff, Green, Clark, Wonder Boy Luke Carlin, and is virtually tied with Iguchi. But yeah, he’s the big problem.
May 18, 2008 at 6:19 pm
#58@Kevin: Yeah, but one’s dead and one is 74 years old. There’s a live one who could have added a 450 OBP and tons of power to this lineup.
May 18, 2008 at 6:24 pm
#57@JP: On further thought, the other two are both dead, Ruth and Williams. Aaron was my initial #2, but I’ve always had a soft spot for Hank.
May 18, 2008 at 7:03 pm
#59@Tom Waits: PMac can only win your ball club games if he hits because he offers no value defensively or on the basepaths. To base his value solely on his “OPS” in an abysmal lineup hardly tells the whole picture.
May 18, 2008 at 7:03 pm
#60@Tom Waits: He who walks behind the rows, is not going to play for the Padres and in all likelyhood anyone else. I am assuming there is a reason, that no one in baseball wants him their clubhouse.
May 18, 2008 at 7:10 pm
Farm Report Preview …
- Chase with HR #7
- Cedric with HR #1 … http://tinyurl.com/4xj2on
May 18, 2008 at 7:15 pm
Just postulating - the Padres have had about 10 losses in games where if they had any offense at all they could have won half of them. They lead the majors in quality starts yet they are on pace to lose 100 games. This makes no sense.
May 18, 2008 at 7:21 pm
6 of the 9 starts from the dreaded 5th spot in the rotation have been decent to good.
May 18, 2008 at 7:26 pm
#64@LynchMob: Even Luis Durango gets HR #1 today …
http://tinyurl.com/4fhcea
Starting pitcher for Ft Wayne today was Mat Latos … who gave up 3 HR in 5.2 IP (5 Ks, 0 BBs) …
May 18, 2008 at 7:40 pm
I’m liking Lemond Pope’s blog entries in the Ft Wayne Journal Gazette …
http://jgwebblogs.typepad.com/wizards/
… short and to the point … good points.
May 18, 2008 at 7:56 pm
#62@JP: Defense and speed matter, but not enough to close the gap between McAnulty and most of the players I listed. And it’s not like Headley is going to play great LF defense or motor around the bases. Most LF aren’t good defensively, that’s why they’re out there. What’s the harm in McAnulty getting a solid month of at-bats to see what happens?
#63@Field39: Sure there are reasons that Bonds doesn’t have a job. And I really doubt the Padres would benefit from it now, when they’ve already dug such a hole. But if Bonds had been plugged into LF on Opening Day, we’d have scored A LOT more runs.
May 18, 2008 at 8:08 pm
#69@Tom Waits: There’s no harm. Another month or two to find out. I have my doubts but it wouldn’t hurt to see him get another 50-100 at bats, but the same goes for a lot of guys in the system. I think that your comparison (PMAC) to Bubba Trammell was a good one and Bubba in his first 200 at bats in the majors (at the same age as PMAC) looked about the same. At the end, Bubba Trammell had three worthy years in the majors.
May 18, 2008 at 8:25 pm
Oh cmon we lost 2 of 3 to the Mariners????
That’s all……
Tomorrow is a new day.
More of the same?
May 18, 2008 at 8:26 pm
PEavy going on the DL??? FOrgive if this was posted….
http://www3.signonsandiego.com.....-due-elbo/
May 18, 2008 at 8:27 pm
Oh yeah….just checked. Previous post….take back….sorry for clogging the blog with old news.
May 19, 2008 at 12:15 am
Another tough game to swallow…I hope they win 2 of 3 at home vs the Cards.
May 19, 2008 at 12:53 am
Boy, we’re looking for any change to improve our luck:
Manager Bud Black believes the Padres will regain some momentum by playing 20 of their next 23 games at home after playing 16 of 19 on the road.
http://www3.signonsandiego.com.....e-5182008/
First, it was the upcoming road trip. Then, it was May. Now it’s the homestand. Next it will be June, then July, then 2009.
If the Diamondbacks play .500 ball the rest of the season, we’ll need to go 71-48 (.607) just to tie them. Remember we’re playing .356 so far.
On the bright side, we have at least 53 meaningful games left.
As much as I’d like to “keep the faith”, this is not the 1996 Padres that deserved some support after a brutal June (in part, due to the loss of Joyner for five weeks).
This isn’t even the 1989 version that nearly caught the Giants after being 12 games down in late July.
(Yes, I voted for “quitting” in that I’m admitting that we won’t make the post season this year.)
May 19, 2008 at 1:42 am
I just realized that if the Padres win the next 13 games, we’ll be a .500 team.
Wow. OK, I think that should be a goal - a .500 team by end of June.