Comments on: One Way Teams Can Connect with Fans http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/one-way-teams-can-connect-with-fans.html Blogging the San Diego Padres baseball club. Established 1997. Mon, 08 Sep 2008 15:42:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: The Sacrifice Bunt | 9 Reasons to still be excited about the 2008 San Diego Padres season http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/one-way-teams-can-connect-with-fans.html#comment-185183 The Sacrifice Bunt | 9 Reasons to still be excited about the 2008 San Diego Padres season Wed, 14 May 2008 05:48:49 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2474#comment-185183 [...] Since the team balked at hosting the official Padre blogger meetup day, we’re free to be as angry as we please without risking good standing with the [...] [...] Since the team balked at hosting the official Padre blogger meetup day, we’re free to be as angry as we please without risking good standing with the [...]

]]> By: SDSUBaseball http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/one-way-teams-can-connect-with-fans.html#comment-178235 SDSUBaseball Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:05:18 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2474#comment-178235 #54@<a href="#comment-178142" rel="nofollow">FriarFanDan</a>: I dont really agree with this either. There are many spectacular plays made by good jumps and Edmonds has let me down plenty of times this year with bad routes and bad speed. Edmonds made spectacular plays in his prime with good routes and really no speed. Also, Edmonds has been terrible this year and I dont think he will be anywhere near capable considering the size of the NL West OFs. I never though Jeter was good defensively, I dont know why that is relevant. I believe fielding stats can be useful, but I depend more on what I see if I have seen the player play. BTW, did one see that catch Reed Johnson made? #54@FriarFanDan: I dont really agree with this either. There are many spectacular plays made by good jumps and Edmonds has let me down plenty of times this year with bad routes and bad speed. Edmonds made spectacular plays in his prime with good routes and really no speed. Also, Edmonds has been terrible this year and I dont think he will be anywhere near capable considering the size of the NL West OFs. I never though Jeter was good defensively, I dont know why that is relevant. I believe fielding stats can be useful, but I depend more on what I see if I have seen the player play.

BTW, did one see that catch Reed Johnson made?

]]> By: LynchMob http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/one-way-teams-can-connect-with-fans.html#comment-178153 LynchMob Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:59:27 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2474#comment-178153 GY ... thanks for the link to the Q&A you did at StatSpeak ... 3 good questions ... 9 good answers! I was reading a “blog” at the SDUT and noticed that BAs were used in a way to further the point of the writer … whereas going to more/better stats would have been counter-productive to the tone and/or point of his post … hmmm … so I left a comment pointing back to the Question #2 … fyi … http://www3.signonsandiego.com/weblogs/minor-league/2008/apr/25/beavers-prospects-slow/#sosd_comments Seemed like a good opportuntity to provide some feedback ... let's make some (healthy / productive) noise! GY … thanks for the link to the Q&A you did at StatSpeak … 3 good questions … 9 good answers!

I was reading a “blog” at the SDUT and noticed that BAs were used in a way to further the point of the writer … whereas going to more/better stats would have been counter-productive to the tone and/or point of his post … hmmm … so I left a comment pointing back to the Question #2 … fyi …

http://www3.signonsandiego.com.....d_comments

Seemed like a good opportuntity to provide some feedback … let’s make some (healthy / productive) noise!

]]> By: FriarFanDan http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/one-way-teams-can-connect-with-fans.html#comment-178142 FriarFanDan Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:50:07 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2474#comment-178142 #51@<a href="#comment-178137" rel="nofollow">Tom Waits</a>: I still think he's been subpar. It's just that highlight plays in the outfield are often the combination of poor jumps/routes and good speed. While disappointing fans is often a result of good jumps/routes and poor speed. So as a result, Edmonds appears worse than he actually is, while fast guys often appear better than they are. #51@Tom Waits: I still think he’s been subpar. It’s just that highlight plays in the outfield are often the combination of poor jumps/routes and good speed. While disappointing fans is often a result of good jumps/routes and poor speed. So as a result, Edmonds appears worse than he actually is, while fast guys often appear better than they are.

]]> By: FriarFanDan http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/one-way-teams-can-connect-with-fans.html#comment-178141 FriarFanDan Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:42:22 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2474#comment-178141 #48@<a href="#comment-178124" rel="nofollow">Coronado Mike</a>: That was my point, people's eyes deceive them, particularly when they are emotionally invested in the game. Rewarding Jeter for a few plays and the Yankees winning is similar to penalizing Edmonds for a few key plays and the Padres losing. Defensive statistics, while not as useful as offensive statistics, are helpful for providing a frame of reference. Jeter wasn't as great as he appeared to Yankee fans, and Edmonds isn't as terrible as he appears to Padres fans, subpar, but not terrible #48@Coronado Mike: That was my point, people’s eyes deceive them, particularly when they are emotionally invested in the game. Rewarding Jeter for a few plays and the Yankees winning is similar to penalizing Edmonds for a few key plays and the Padres losing. Defensive statistics, while not as useful as offensive statistics, are helpful for providing a frame of reference. Jeter wasn’t as great as he appeared to Yankee fans, and Edmonds isn’t as terrible as he appears to Padres fans, subpar, but not terrible

]]> By: LynchMob http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/one-way-teams-can-connect-with-fans.html#comment-178138 LynchMob Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:37:43 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2474#comment-178138 BP STAT OF THE DAY Top 5 2008 NL Relievers, by WXRL Player, Team, WXRL Carlos Marmol, CHN, 1.6 Brad Lidge, PHI, 1.2 Renyel Pinto, FLO, 1.1 Matt Capps, PIT, 1.0 Brian Wilson, SFN, 1.0 BP STAT OF THE DAY

Top 5 2008 NL Relievers, by WXRL

Player, Team, WXRL

Carlos Marmol, CHN, 1.6
Brad Lidge, PHI, 1.2
Renyel Pinto, FLO, 1.1
Matt Capps, PIT, 1.0
Brian Wilson, SFN, 1.0

]]> By: Tom Waits http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/one-way-teams-can-connect-with-fans.html#comment-178137 Tom Waits Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:35:01 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2474#comment-178137 #47@<a href="#comment-178121" rel="nofollow">FriarFanDan</a>: Yeah, I agree with Coronado Mike in 48. Gold Gloves are often won on the basis on your reputation, your hitting stats, and a couple of highlight plays. I don't know if Edmonds is just missing balls that other CF would miss by a lot because he gets good jumps, but as slow as he looks, that's hard to believe. It's like he's expecting there to be another gear that simply isn't around anymore. #47@FriarFanDan: Yeah, I agree with Coronado Mike in 48. Gold Gloves are often won on the basis on your reputation, your hitting stats, and a couple of highlight plays.

I don’t know if Edmonds is just missing balls that other CF would miss by a lot because he gets good jumps, but as slow as he looks, that’s hard to believe. It’s like he’s expecting there to be another gear that simply isn’t around anymore.

]]> By: parlo http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/one-way-teams-can-connect-with-fans.html#comment-178136 parlo Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:28:58 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2474#comment-178136 Jeter has a flair for the dramatic play. Combine that with his post season play, and thats what people remember. Edmonds in his prime had the same good fortune. They both would make the highlight reel. Nettles wasnt the best 3B either, but it would have been hard not to take notice of his glove in several WS. It is interesting though that Jeter won his GGs in his thirties, as his defensive play was declining. Jeter has a flair for the dramatic play. Combine that with his post season play, and thats what people remember. Edmonds in his prime had the same good fortune. They both would make the highlight reel.
Nettles wasnt the best 3B either, but it would have been hard not to take notice of his glove in several WS.

It is interesting though that Jeter won his GGs in his thirties, as his defensive play was declining.

]]> By: KRS1 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/one-way-teams-can-connect-with-fans.html#comment-178128 KRS1 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:12:11 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2474#comment-178128 At this point why screw things up and miss out on Stephen Strasburg in the 2009 draft? He'd probably look pretty decent in a Padres uniform. Off topic but Brian Matusz and Josh Romanski are on XX 1090 right now. At this point why screw things up and miss out on Stephen Strasburg in the 2009 draft? He’d probably look pretty decent in a Padres uniform.

Off topic but Brian Matusz and Josh Romanski are on XX 1090 right now.

]]> By: Coronado Mike http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/one-way-teams-can-connect-with-fans.html#comment-178124 Coronado Mike Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:59:50 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/?p=2474#comment-178124 #47@<a href="#comment-178121" rel="nofollow">FriarFanDan</a>: Friar, outside of NY, very few who watched Jeter say he is "one of the best defensive shortstops". He got the GG for being on TV every night and hitting well for the Yanks. #47@FriarFanDan: Friar, outside of NY, very few who watched Jeter say he is “one of the best defensive shortstops”. He got the GG for being on TV every night and hitting well for the Yanks.

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