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		<title>By: bullpener</title>
		<link>http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/none-more-epic.html#comment-174324</link>
		<dc:creator>bullpener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>6 &#38; 14: I sit in the section next to the bullpen. I was there for the whole 22 innings Thur. and Edmonds looks bad both at the plate and in the field. He gets late breaks, runs crooked routes, and is slow. He says he is pressing, trying to impress everybody. Not sure what we are seeing can be fixed so simply. I am much more willing to give Trevor the benefit of the doubt. He at least has a history of starting slow the last couple years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>6 &amp; 14: I sit in the section next to the bullpen. I was there for the whole 22 innings Thur. and Edmonds looks bad both at the plate and in the field. He gets late breaks, runs crooked routes, and is slow. He says he is pressing, trying to impress everybody. Not sure what we are seeing can be fixed so simply. I am much more willing to give Trevor the benefit of the doubt. He at least has a history of starting slow the last couple years.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Waits</title>
		<link>http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/none-more-epic.html#comment-174278</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Waits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 00:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#2@&lt;a href="#comment-174205" rel="nofollow"&gt;JP&lt;/a&gt;: #4@&lt;a href="#comment-174209" rel="nofollow"&gt;Kevin&lt;/a&gt;: If you have a better bench by not committing to 12 pitchers, the game may not go 22 innings. As I wrote in another thread, if there's someone available to run for Clark and stand at 1st base if the game continues, we win that game on Bard's knock. 22 innings wasn't a foregone conclusion that proves the need for a 7 man bullpen. You absolutely cannot deploy your resources to meet situations that are so unlikely. 

#3@&lt;a href="#comment-174206" rel="nofollow"&gt;JP&lt;/a&gt;: I thought both the Cameron and Morton calls were bad, but he seemed to blow a few when the Rockies were pitching, too. 

#12@&lt;a href="#comment-174250" rel="nofollow"&gt;SDSUBaseball&lt;/a&gt;: There'd be a big difference in the OBP, because those players walk more than Gonzalez. And it's hard to imagine that any of them would lose 15 HR hitting in Petco; only Howard plays in a bandbox. A 125 OPS+ is a very good, not great or elite, hitter. It accounts for parks. That's not to say Hombre couldn't improve, but there's a real, significant gap between him and Pujols/Howard/Fielder at the plate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#2@<a href="#comment-174205" rel="nofollow">JP</a>: #4@<a href="#comment-174209" rel="nofollow">Kevin</a>: If you have a better bench by not committing to 12 pitchers, the game may not go 22 innings. As I wrote in another thread, if there&#8217;s someone available to run for Clark and stand at 1st base if the game continues, we win that game on Bard&#8217;s knock. 22 innings wasn&#8217;t a foregone conclusion that proves the need for a 7 man bullpen. You absolutely cannot deploy your resources to meet situations that are so unlikely. </p>
<p>#3@<a href="#comment-174206" rel="nofollow">JP</a>: I thought both the Cameron and Morton calls were bad, but he seemed to blow a few when the Rockies were pitching, too. </p>
<p>#12@<a href="#comment-174250" rel="nofollow">SDSUBaseball</a>: There&#8217;d be a big difference in the OBP, because those players walk more than Gonzalez. And it&#8217;s hard to imagine that any of them would lose 15 HR hitting in Petco; only Howard plays in a bandbox. A 125 OPS+ is a very good, not great or elite, hitter. It accounts for parks. That&#8217;s not to say Hombre couldn&#8217;t improve, but there&#8217;s a real, significant gap between him and Pujols/Howard/Fielder at the plate.</p>
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		<title>By: Schlom</title>
		<link>http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/none-more-epic.html#comment-174276</link>
		<dc:creator>Schlom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 00:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#12@&lt;a href="#comment-174250" rel="nofollow"&gt;SDSUBaseball&lt;/a&gt;: Adrian is good but let's not get crazy.  On hitting alone he's clearly well behind Pujols, Howard and Fielder.  He closes the distance on the latter two because of his fielding and he might be a better bet going into the future because of his body type but there is no way he's even close to those three, especially Pujols.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#12@<a href="#comment-174250" rel="nofollow">SDSUBaseball</a>: Adrian is good but let&#8217;s not get crazy.  On hitting alone he&#8217;s clearly well behind Pujols, Howard and Fielder.  He closes the distance on the latter two because of his fielding and he might be a better bet going into the future because of his body type but there is no way he&#8217;s even close to those three, especially Pujols.</p>
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		<title>By: Didi</title>
		<link>http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/none-more-epic.html#comment-174261</link>
		<dc:creator>Didi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 23:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>6: Yeah, he looked that bad to my friends who stayed until the end of the game. And he looked that bad on replays too. I give him April to prove himself, and so far, he's looking done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>6: Yeah, he looked that bad to my friends who stayed until the end of the game. And he looked that bad on replays too. I give him April to prove himself, and so far, he&#8217;s looking done.</p>
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		<title>By: Didi</title>
		<link>http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/none-more-epic.html#comment-174260</link>
		<dc:creator>Didi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 23:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, Tim Redding is 3-1 with a pretty good ERA, however, he did gave up 7R with only 1ER in the loss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, Tim Redding is 3-1 with a pretty good ERA, however, he did gave up 7R with only 1ER in the loss.</p>
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		<title>By: SDSUBaseball</title>
		<link>http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/none-more-epic.html#comment-174250</link>
		<dc:creator>SDSUBaseball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 23:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>10:  I think he is up there with, those guys.  If he played in Philly or Milwaukee he would be considered an "elite" hitter.  Not sure if Pujols, Howard or Fielder could do much better than .280/30HR/100 RBI in Petco.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>10:  I think he is up there with, those guys.  If he played in Philly or Milwaukee he would be considered an &#8220;elite&#8221; hitter.  Not sure if Pujols, Howard or Fielder could do much better than .280/30HR/100 RBI in Petco.</p>
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		<title>By: SDSUBaseball</title>
		<link>http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/none-more-epic.html#comment-174248</link>
		<dc:creator>SDSUBaseball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 23:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3:  I thought it was the other way around... thats just me though</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3:  I thought it was the other way around&#8230; thats just me though</p>
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		<title>By: Schlom</title>
		<link>http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/none-more-epic.html#comment-174229</link>
		<dc:creator>Schlom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 21:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#8@&lt;a href="#comment-174222" rel="nofollow"&gt;Field39&lt;/a&gt;: I disagree with that.  First of all, unless they turned Petco into something like Coors Field, they aren't going to have a superstar offensive performer.  He's not Ryan Howard, Pujols or Prince Fielder -- that's not a knock on Adrian but he's simply not an elite level batter.  I would guess that the most important thing for fans is to see their team win followed by an exciting game.  Obviously losing every game 1-0 would kill attendance but I doubt that the crowds would be much higher if the Padres won games 10-8 vs. 2-1.  The more runs you score the longer the games take and I'm sure that has an effect on attendance.

Here's a link with the Padres team attendance history:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/SDP/attend.shtml

For the most part the attendance closely follows the team's record.  There's really only a 5 year stretch when they played in a hitting friendly park (1989-1993) but since they won 3 of those years we can't figure out if scoring more runs helped out.

Let's not go crazy after a bad week.  There are already calls to break up the team after just a few week of the season (and when they are under one game back).  We should probably give it some time -- and if the D-backs keep playing like they are doing it's not going to matter what the Padres do!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#8@<a href="#comment-174222" rel="nofollow">Field39</a>: I disagree with that.  First of all, unless they turned Petco into something like Coors Field, they aren&#8217;t going to have a superstar offensive performer.  He&#8217;s not Ryan Howard, Pujols or Prince Fielder &#8212; that&#8217;s not a knock on Adrian but he&#8217;s simply not an elite level batter.  I would guess that the most important thing for fans is to see their team win followed by an exciting game.  Obviously losing every game 1-0 would kill attendance but I doubt that the crowds would be much higher if the Padres won games 10-8 vs. 2-1.  The more runs you score the longer the games take and I&#8217;m sure that has an effect on attendance.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a link with the Padres team attendance history:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/SDP/attend.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.baseball-reference......tend.shtml</a></p>
<p>For the most part the attendance closely follows the team&#8217;s record.  There&#8217;s really only a 5 year stretch when they played in a hitting friendly park (1989-1993) but since they won 3 of those years we can&#8217;t figure out if scoring more runs helped out.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not go crazy after a bad week.  There are already calls to break up the team after just a few week of the season (and when they are under one game back).  We should probably give it some time &#8212; and if the D-backs keep playing like they are doing it&#8217;s not going to matter what the Padres do!</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/none-more-epic.html#comment-174226</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 21:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about defending NL champ AZ having 26,700 tickets sold for a Friday night game? Is there a more exciting team right now in the National League?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about defending NL champ AZ having 26,700 tickets sold for a Friday night game? Is there a more exciting team right now in the National League?</p>
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		<title>By: Field39</title>
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		<dc:creator>Field39</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 20:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Padres need to understand that they are competing for the entertainament dollar, and that without a marquee offensive player that is extremely difficult to do. The Padres have Gonzo who is that player, but his talent is placed on hold for 81 games a year. If Petco was a neutral park, this town could be filled fans wearing #23, much the same way they wear #21 today. 
Some people look down their noses at the average fan, but it is the average fan who pays the bills. If the Padres lose contact with him, maintaing the status quo will be next to impossible, leaving championship baseball a distant dream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Padres need to understand that they are competing for the entertainament dollar, and that without a marquee offensive player that is extremely difficult to do. The Padres have Gonzo who is that player, but his talent is placed on hold for 81 games a year. If Petco was a neutral park, this town could be filled fans wearing #23, much the same way they wear #21 today.<br />
Some people look down their noses at the average fan, but it is the average fan who pays the bills. If the Padres lose contact with him, maintaing the status quo will be next to impossible, leaving championship baseball a distant dream.</p>
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