Comments on: IGD: Padres vs Giants (23 Apr 08)

By: Pat

Pat — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:10:11 +0000

345: Yeah, he’s done when we have a meaningful amount of data indicating he is done. What is meaningful? For a guy with a track record like he has meaningful to me would be a full season of poor performance. Will we get that far? No, because he won’t be allowed to go that long with poor performance, imo, but it sure as heck isn’t 7 2/3 IP, or 25 IP.

No need to apologize for being flip. IMO, those of you who are making all of this noise should be apologizing for trashing a guy with one of the most extraordinary track records in ML history, not to mention one of the most consistent track records, based on a ridiculously small amount of data.

By: LynchMob

LynchMob — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:03:01 +0000

343 … Pat, can you tell me what your criteria is for Trevor being “done”? I’m guessing we’re not far apart in our opinions. He’s gonna be “done” sometime, isn’t he? Or do you think he’s good for repeating 2007 for 10 more years and then he just quits while he’s still on top? I know you don’t … and sorry for getting a bit flip.

I think my point can be expanded based on what you are saying … he wasn’t “done” last year … he was able to go out and have 11 good outings in a row … but then you know what happened? He had surgery on his arm! And so far this year, he’s been scored up in 4 out of 8 outings … he’s looked bad (to me) … he walked Jose Cruz Jr when he was 1 out away from a save. No one of these facts is very significant … the anecdotal observations are probably the most significant …

And if he does again what he did from Aug 25 to Sep 28 last season, then I’ll say I was wrong / premature …

By: Geoff Young

Geoff Young — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:29:21 +0000

#142@Richard D.: Well, I don't consider myself a Trevor apologist and I offer no excuses. Guy got beat on a home run. It happens. It sucks, but it happens.

By: Pat

Pat — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:21:50 +0000

#336@LynchMob: You know, LM, you and Richard D. need to get on the same page because the last time Trevor ran off 10 consecutive, which is your criteria for him NOT being "done," was right in the middle of the period Richard D. cites for him being "done." IOW, he did that just last August/September. The least you chicken little's can do is be consistent with one another.

By: Pat

Pat — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:03:33 +0000

#197@Richard D.: Oh, I see. So it's a 25 IP stretch we're judging him on now. That's a relief becasue I thought it was a small sample size issue. Sheesh.

By: Steve C

Steve C — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:11:46 +0000

#340@SDSUBaseball: ::cough:: Reggie Sanders ::cough::

By: SDSUBaseball

SDSUBaseball — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:37:52 +0000

#331@Zagz: Thats a stretch... they would had tried to get a better LF just as hard as they tried to get better in CF. They would had gotten an older bargain stop-gap, or gone with P-Mac or Gerut. I think it's to early to write off a kid who pounded in the minors. I think if you are going to give Iguchi and Edmonds more time then why not Hairston. He has the most upside than both.

By: LynchMob

LynchMob — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 07:31:18 +0000

#338@Ben B.: I’ve been heard (ps. NOT!)

By: Ben B.

Ben B. — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 07:08:18 +0000

#337@LynchMob: Bring up Latos to close!

By: LynchMob

LynchMob — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 06:52:04 +0000

I gotta end with something upbeat … here it is … Mat Latos pitched GREAT today for the Ft Wayne Wizards … his first appearance of the season (he started the year hurt and stayed in extended spring training) … he pitched 4 innings, giving up 5 hits and 3 runs (only 1 earned) … but the best part was the 8Ks and ZERO walks!

He’s still a *long* ways away … and 4 IP is the ultimate “small sample size” … but it’s good news, nonetheless