Comments on: I, Me, Mine http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/i-me-mine.html Blogging the San Diego Padres baseball club. Established 1997. Wed, 08 Oct 2008 11:00:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Richard http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/i-me-mine.html#comment-170891 Richard Fri, 11 Apr 2008 06:55:53 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/i-me-mine.html#comment-170891 121: Yes, that would have been worse.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-170891">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> 121: Yes, that would have been worse.

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]]> By: Richard http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/i-me-mine.html#comment-170890 Richard Fri, 11 Apr 2008 06:54:59 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/i-me-mine.html#comment-170890 I'm less concerned with tracking runs than things like hits, walks, etc. Runs tell you less about how well they actually hit. I could separate each game into P/PA and then how well they hit as a club in that game, though (I'll include runs, too, since obviously that's of interest). I'll see what we get from that. Thanks.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-170890">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> I’m less concerned with tracking runs than things like hits, walks, etc. Runs tell you less about how well they actually hit. I could separate each game into P/PA and then how well they hit as a club in that game, though (I’ll include runs, too, since obviously that’s of interest). I’ll see what we get from that. Thanks.

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]]> By: Ben B. http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/i-me-mine.html#comment-170889 Ben B. Fri, 11 Apr 2008 06:52:07 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/i-me-mine.html#comment-170889 Hey, look on the bright side guys. At least we didn't lose to the Giants like the Cardinals did tonight. The Cards had their best starter going against the Giants' worst, and the Cardinals lost 5-1.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-170889">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> Hey, look on the bright side guys. At least we didn’t lose to the Giants like the Cardinals did tonight. The Cards had their best starter going against the Giants’ worst, and the Cardinals lost 5-1.

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]]> By: Didi http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/i-me-mine.html#comment-170883 Didi Fri, 11 Apr 2008 06:33:33 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/i-me-mine.html#comment-170883 Would using total pitches seen per game be helpful? Instead of focusing on each player, use the whole team. And compare that to the opponents' seen pitches per game. I don't know how to tie all that to the number of runners on base vs. runs scored. I'm thinking a pitcher that has more runners on base the whole game as being in trouble. However, those runners don't necessarily turn into runs.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-170883">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> Would using total pitches seen per game be helpful? Instead of focusing on each player, use the whole team.
And compare that to the opponents’ seen pitches per game.
I don’t know how to tie all that to the number of runners on base vs. runs scored.

I’m thinking a pitcher that has more runners on base the whole game as being in trouble. However, those runners don’t necessarily turn into runs.

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]]> By: Richard http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/i-me-mine.html#comment-170871 Richard Fri, 11 Apr 2008 05:39:37 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/i-me-mine.html#comment-170871 118: I considered going by pitches seen, but guys fouling off pitches or failing to make contact early despite hacking could have higher pitch counts regardless. Maybe something like % of pitches swung at or pitches out of zone swung at... The reason I'm trying to break it up is specifically to respond to people calling for the Padres hitters to be more aggressive and show that they're actually getting themselves into trouble by being aggressive.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-170871">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> 118: I considered going by pitches seen, but guys fouling off pitches or failing to make contact early despite hacking could have higher pitch counts regardless. Maybe something like % of pitches swung at or pitches out of zone swung at…

The reason I’m trying to break it up is specifically to respond to people calling for the Padres hitters to be more aggressive and show that they’re actually getting themselves into trouble by being aggressive.

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]]> By: Didi http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/i-me-mine.html#comment-170857 Didi Fri, 11 Apr 2008 05:17:54 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/i-me-mine.html#comment-170857 117: Taking first two pitches no matter what perhaps counts as a passive PA. I'm thinking swinging first pitch is not bad in certain circumstance. I supposed if a batter in every PA is a swinging at first pitch then that's an aggresive hitter. What about total pitches seen per PA? Three or fewer average would be aggresive, no?<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-170857">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> 117: Taking first two pitches no matter what perhaps counts as a passive PA.
I’m thinking swinging first pitch is not bad in certain circumstance. I supposed if a batter in every PA is a swinging at first pitch then that’s an aggresive hitter.

What about total pitches seen per PA? Three or fewer average would be aggresive, no?

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]]> By: Richard http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/i-me-mine.html#comment-170843 Richard Fri, 11 Apr 2008 04:39:06 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/i-me-mine.html#comment-170843 So, I'm trying to divide "aggressive PA" and "so-called passive PA." So far I have Swung at first pitch and took first pitch as my groupings. Anyone have any other ideas for separating them?<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-170843">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> So, I’m trying to divide “aggressive PA” and “so-called passive PA.” So far I have Swung at first pitch and took first pitch as my groupings. Anyone have any other ideas for separating them?

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]]> By: Richard http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/i-me-mine.html#comment-170831 Richard Fri, 11 Apr 2008 04:01:20 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/i-me-mine.html#comment-170831 If you look at what Edmonds did last year, what he's done this year and what PECOTA projected for him, there's not a lot of room for optimism. We're talking a 45% collapse rate and it's not like he set the bar terribly high last season. The more I've tried to talk myself out of the position that he's done, the more convinced I become that he is done. Hopefully I'm wrong.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-170831">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> If you look at what Edmonds did last year, what he’s done this year and what PECOTA projected for him, there’s not a lot of room for optimism. We’re talking a 45% collapse rate and it’s not like he set the bar terribly high last season. The more I’ve tried to talk myself out of the position that he’s done, the more convinced I become that he is done. Hopefully I’m wrong.

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]]> By: Richard http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/i-me-mine.html#comment-170826 Richard Fri, 11 Apr 2008 03:48:27 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/i-me-mine.html#comment-170826 112: The sample size is definitely an issue. I think there's a chance this is nothing more than a hiccup, but there's also a very real chance that Edmonds is just done.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-170826">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> 112: The sample size is definitely an issue. I think there’s a chance this is nothing more than a hiccup, but there’s also a very real chance that Edmonds is just done.

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]]> By: Ben B. http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/i-me-mine.html#comment-170806 Ben B. Fri, 11 Apr 2008 01:23:32 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/04/i-me-mine.html#comment-170806 112: Sorry, that really, really good at the end was a bit hyperbolic. My point was that is really, really good compared to what we got out of centerfield last year, what we expected to get out of centerfield this year, and what other possible centerfield candidates (both internal and possible acquisitions) could do. Not so much that in the overall context of the league an .810 OPS from a centerfielder is really, really good.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-170806">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> 112: Sorry, that really, really good at the end was a bit hyperbolic. My point was that is really, really good compared to what we got out of centerfield last year, what we expected to get out of centerfield this year, and what other possible centerfield candidates (both internal and possible acquisitions) could do. Not so much that in the overall context of the league an .810 OPS from a centerfielder is really, really good.

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