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		<title>By: Tom Waits</title>
		<link>http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/02/familiar-refrain.html#comment-150896</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Waits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>73: Adrian's extra win share is because he played 21 more games than Howard in 2007. That's not insignificant, but if you're looking for who's going to do more given relatively equal time, it's Howard. He contributes more per-game and per-AB. Unless we assume that Howard is likely to miss time each year while Agon isn't, I can't see how the latter is better. 

It's almost all because of their plate discipline. RH has reached base 67 more times the last 2 seasons, despite almost identical plate appearances. 

In 2006 Howard beat Gonzalez by 14 WS.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-150896"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>73: Adrian&#8217;s extra win share is because he played 21 more games than Howard in 2007. That&#8217;s not insignificant, but if you&#8217;re looking for who&#8217;s going to do more given relatively equal time, it&#8217;s Howard. He contributes more per-game and per-AB. Unless we assume that Howard is likely to miss time each year while Agon isn&#8217;t, I can&#8217;t see how the latter is better. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s almost all because of their plate discipline. RH has reached base 67 more times the last 2 seasons, despite almost identical plate appearances. </p>
<p>In 2006 Howard beat Gonzalez by 14 WS.
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		<title>By: Corey Brock</title>
		<link>http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/02/familiar-refrain.html#comment-150894</link>
		<dc:creator>Corey Brock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Morning from Peoria. The Padres like Crabbe for several reasons, he can play anywhere in the infield (other than first) and some center field. He also has something no one else on the team has: speed. Since he's a Rule 5 guy, that means they will also take a real good look at him since if they don't keep him, they would have to offer him back to the Brewers. That said, he won't just be handed a job this spring.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-150894"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morning from Peoria. The Padres like Crabbe for several reasons, he can play anywhere in the infield (other than first) and some center field. He also has something no one else on the team has: speed. Since he&#8217;s a Rule 5 guy, that means they will also take a real good look at him since if they don&#8217;t keep him, they would have to offer him back to the Brewers. That said, he won&#8217;t just be handed a job this spring.
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		<title>By: Masticore317</title>
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		<dc:creator>Masticore317</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strange about Macias.  They seemed to be high on him lately.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-150872"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strange about Macias.  They seemed to be high on him lately.
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		<title>By: Didi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Didi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 06:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>42: does plethora imply quality? If it does, then, I'm mistaken. The Padres got quantity with some past quality which in no way predict future quality. Isn't that fun?

Hmmm....no Macias then. Well, go Jody Gerut and Jeff DaVannon.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-150798"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>42: does plethora imply quality? If it does, then, I&#8217;m mistaken. The Padres got quantity with some past quality which in no way predict future quality. Isn&#8217;t that fun?</p>
<p>Hmmm&#8230;.no Macias then. Well, go Jody Gerut and Jeff DaVannon.
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/02/familiar-refrain.html#comment-150793</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 06:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>72:  Corey Brock at Padres.com has written two articles recently that mentioned Crabbe as the next most likely lock for the bench after Barrett and Clark because he can play second, short, third and the outfield.  One article emphasized that he was likely to make the club because he has speed and can play center.  Maybe Corey could clarify what he's hearing if he stops by any time soon.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-150793"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>72:  Corey Brock at Padres.com has written two articles recently that mentioned Crabbe as the next most likely lock for the bench after Barrett and Clark because he can play second, short, third and the outfield.  One article emphasized that he was likely to make the club because he has speed and can play center.  Maybe Corey could clarify what he&#8217;s hearing if he stops by any time soon.
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 05:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adrian: 27 win shares
Iguchi: 15
Greene: 19
Kouzmanoff: 15
Total: 76

Phillies
Howard: 26
Utley: 28
Rollins: 28
Feliz: 10
Total: 92

I think Gonzalez is better than Howard, but that's about where it ends.

Mets
Delgado: 14
Castillo: 14
Reyes: 24
Wright: 34
Total: 86

Catchers are not members of the infield, but:

Bard: 16, Schneider: 11, Ruiz: 13.

Their addition makes no difference.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-150768"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adrian: 27 win shares<br />
Iguchi: 15<br />
Greene: 19<br />
Kouzmanoff: 15<br />
Total: 76</p>
<p>Phillies<br />
Howard: 26<br />
Utley: 28<br />
Rollins: 28<br />
Feliz: 10<br />
Total: 92</p>
<p>I think Gonzalez is better than Howard, but that&#8217;s about where it ends.</p>
<p>Mets<br />
Delgado: 14<br />
Castillo: 14<br />
Reyes: 24<br />
Wright: 34<br />
Total: 86</p>
<p>Catchers are not members of the infield, but:</p>
<p>Bard: 16, Schneider: 11, Ruiz: 13.</p>
<p>Their addition makes no difference.
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 04:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No mention of Callix Crabbe as a back up center fielder?&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-150767"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No mention of Callix Crabbe as a back up center fielder?
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		<title>By: Schlom</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 02:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just looking up McAnulty's stats.  He was drafted in the 12th round in 2002, not too many other good players drafted around him although the Twins drafted (but didn't sign) Jeff Clement out of high school.  In the 13th round, Matt Harrington was drafted by the Devil Rays.  Do people remember him?  He was drafted 7th overall in 2000 but held out, the Padres took him with the 58th pick the following year, in 2002 he went 374th, in 2003 1301st, and in 2004 1089th.  That's quite a fall.  Maybe he should signed the first time he was drafted.....&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-150708"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just looking up McAnulty&#8217;s stats.  He was drafted in the 12th round in 2002, not too many other good players drafted around him although the Twins drafted (but didn&#8217;t sign) Jeff Clement out of high school.  In the 13th round, Matt Harrington was drafted by the Devil Rays.  Do people remember him?  He was drafted 7th overall in 2000 but held out, the Padres took him with the 58th pick the following year, in 2002 he went 374th, in 2003 1301st, and in 2004 1089th.  That&#8217;s quite a fall.  Maybe he should signed the first time he was drafted&#8230;..
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		<title>By: Mark Ase</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Ase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 00:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People think steroids is a more likely issue for Edmonds, rather then his post concussion syndrome?  Interesting, but considering guys like Koskie and Matheny are basically out of the league because of it, giving Edmonds a year to recover seems like a good idea before drawing any conclusions.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-150686"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People think steroids is a more likely issue for Edmonds, rather then his post concussion syndrome?  Interesting, but considering guys like Koskie and Matheny are basically out of the league because of it, giving Edmonds a year to recover seems like a good idea before drawing any conclusions.
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		<title>By: Phantom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phantom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 00:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>66: P-Mac is quoted in the bottom of the ST article on Padres.com today, saying that he's trying to earn a starting gig out of ST: http://sandiego.padres.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080209&#38;content_id=2369366&#38;vkey=spt2008news&#38;fext=.jsp&#38;c_id=sd

I was really impressed with P-Mac last spring, but he just got derailed at the worst possible time by that injury. Hopefully he can replicate his performance from last spring and force the issue.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-150682"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>66: P-Mac is quoted in the bottom of the ST article on Padres.com today, saying that he&#8217;s trying to earn a starting gig out of ST: <a href="http://sandiego.padres.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080209&amp;content_id=2369366&amp;vkey=spt2008news&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=sd" rel="nofollow">http://sandiego.padres.mlb.com.....mp;c_id=sd</a></p>
<p>I was really impressed with P-Mac last spring, but he just got derailed at the worst possible time by that injury. Hopefully he can replicate his performance from last spring and force the issue.
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