Comments on: OBG08: Chase Headley http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/obg08-chase-headley.html Blogging the San Diego Padres baseball club. Established 1997. Sat, 22 Nov 2008 07:38:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Mark Ase http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/obg08-chase-headley.html#comment-145203 Mark Ase Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:56:29 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/obg08-chase-headley.html#comment-145203 Yeah well he seems to like German Duran enough at 2B, but I really can't make a solid statistical argument that he had a better year then Antonelli did. Facts are if Antonelli controls the strike zone how he did in both of his stops last year(especially if his BB rate stays where it was in SA) his bottom line projection is going to look a lot like what Brian Giles has given the team the past 2 seasons....at 2B thats close to an all star level of production. Mark<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-145203">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> Yeah well he seems to like German Duran enough at 2B, but I really can’t make a solid statistical argument that he had a better year then Antonelli did.

Facts are if Antonelli controls the strike zone how he did in both of his stops last year(especially if his BB rate stays where it was in SA) his bottom line projection is going to look a lot like what Brian Giles has given the team the past 2 seasons….at 2B thats close to an all star level of production.

Mark

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]]> By: Jack from Boston http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/obg08-chase-headley.html#comment-145194 Jack from Boston Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:14:38 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/obg08-chase-headley.html#comment-145194 I agree Mark He rates players but never sees them play dont get it<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-145194">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> I agree Mark He rates players but never sees them play dont get it

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]]> By: Steve C http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/obg08-chase-headley.html#comment-145193 Steve C Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:11:29 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/obg08-chase-headley.html#comment-145193 In one of his chats this year Law admitted that he had never seen LeBlanc pitch and had no idea who geer was.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-145193">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> In one of his chats this year Law admitted that he had never seen LeBlanc pitch and had no idea who geer was.

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]]> By: Mark Ase http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/obg08-chase-headley.html#comment-145188 Mark Ase Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:03:42 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/obg08-chase-headley.html#comment-145188 Hey Jack I understand the frustration with Law, we've all been there. I can't imagine giving the guy credit for posting a correction when he either outright lied to try and prove a point, or had Antonelli confused with someone else. Either way, it begs the question if his prospect list is any better then any of us could put together using BP and BA and others as resources. My main question for Law though is this: since part of his job is to cover prospects, why wouldn't he have seen Antonelli in person last year? Last I checked San Antonio was BA"s minor league team of the year, he couldn't get down there to check out a playoff game or two? You know seeing guys like Headley, Antonelli and LeBlanc who were having true breakthrough years might be kind of important if you're putting any weight at all on scouting.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-145188">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> Hey Jack I understand the frustration with Law, we’ve all been there. I can’t imagine giving the guy credit for posting a correction when he either outright lied to try and prove a point, or had Antonelli confused with someone else.

Either way, it begs the question if his prospect list is any better then any of us could put together using BP and BA and others as resources.

My main question for Law though is this: since part of his job is to cover prospects, why wouldn’t he have seen Antonelli in person last year? Last I checked San Antonio was BA”s minor league team of the year, he couldn’t get down there to check out a playoff game or two?

You know seeing guys like Headley, Antonelli and LeBlanc who were having true breakthrough years might be kind of important if you’re putting any weight at all on scouting.

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]]> By: Jack from Boston http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/obg08-chase-headley.html#comment-145185 Jack from Boston Fri, 01 Feb 2008 15:43:24 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/obg08-chase-headley.html#comment-145185 How do you say you seen someone play then say you made a mistake and didnt see him play you either did or you didnt what is it Mr Law<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-145185">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> How do you say you seen someone play then say you made a mistake and didnt see him play you either did or you didnt what is it Mr Law

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]]> By: Tom Waits http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/obg08-chase-headley.html#comment-145184 Tom Waits Fri, 01 Feb 2008 15:40:27 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/obg08-chase-headley.html#comment-145184 61: Count me among the "not sure I'm buying Headley in LF" crowd. We're awfully interested in corner OF for a team that really believes he can start out there. Maybe we're just looking for another bat who could replace OG when his contract runs out (Murton). 62: Man, I hope that's not the standard. My wife would have canned my rear so long ago. I think Keith Law may have a bit of a blind spot when it comes to Antonelli, but I don't believe there's anything nefarious behind it. We all say or write things we'd like to retract. We don't all have thousands of people ready to pounce.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-145184">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> 61: Count me among the “not sure I’m buying Headley in LF” crowd. We’re awfully interested in corner OF for a team that really believes he can start out there. Maybe we’re just looking for another bat who could replace OG when his contract runs out (Murton).

62: Man, I hope that’s not the standard. My wife would have canned my rear so long ago.

I think Keith Law may have a bit of a blind spot when it comes to Antonelli, but I don’t believe there’s anything nefarious behind it. We all say or write things we’d like to retract. We don’t all have thousands of people ready to pounce.

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]]> By: Jack from Boston http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/obg08-chase-headley.html#comment-145183 Jack from Boston Fri, 01 Feb 2008 15:30:47 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/obg08-chase-headley.html#comment-145183 Also Matt never played ss at Wake<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-145183">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> Also Matt never played ss at Wake

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]]> By: Geoff Young http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/obg08-chase-headley.html#comment-145182 Geoff Young Fri, 01 Feb 2008 15:29:20 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/obg08-chase-headley.html#comment-145182 #61: It seems that way. We've pegged Hairston at 392 PA and Headley at 240, for a total of 632. Padres got 703 PA out of LF in '07, which is 71 more than we project. Now I'm beginning to understand why folks are concerned. Then again, a lot of people (not at DS) freaked out when Dave Roberts departed, and LF ended up being our second most productive position last year. As always, we will wait and see...<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-145182">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> #61: It seems that way. We’ve pegged Hairston at 392 PA and Headley at 240, for a total of 632. Padres got 703 PA out of LF in ‘07, which is 71 more than we project.

Now I’m beginning to understand why folks are concerned. Then again, a lot of people (not at DS) freaked out when Dave Roberts departed, and LF ended up being our second most productive position last year.

As always, we will wait and see…

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]]> By: Jack from Boston http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/obg08-chase-headley.html#comment-145181 Jack from Boston Fri, 01 Feb 2008 15:27:27 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/obg08-chase-headley.html#comment-145181 How can you like someone who always has to correct himself<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-145181">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> How can you like someone who always has to correct himself

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]]> By: Coronado Mike http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/obg08-chase-headley.html#comment-145179 Coronado Mike Fri, 01 Feb 2008 15:05:48 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/obg08-chase-headley.html#comment-145179 RE: 33...I don't know that it is fair to say 2B and 3B are equal in definsive difficulty...sure, they are different, but 3B is generally regarded as more difficult. RE: 57...Geoff, do you think it is because not too many of us are buying into this move to LF? I love me some Kouz and don't think you can move him this year, but it is tough to take your best prospect, a plus defender at 3B, and move him to LF...that is just me though. Props to Law for posting the correction. I like the guy...seemingly one of the few in here that do.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-145179">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> RE: 33…I don’t know that it is fair to say 2B and 3B are equal in definsive difficulty…sure, they are different, but 3B is generally regarded as more difficult.

RE: 57…Geoff, do you think it is because not too many of us are buying into this move to LF? I love me some Kouz and don’t think you can move him this year, but it is tough to take your best prospect, a plus defender at 3B, and move him to LF…that is just me though.

Props to Law for posting the correction. I like the guy…seemingly one of the few in here that do.

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