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		<title>By: Pat</title>
		<link>http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/more-spring-training-thoughts.html#comment-137197</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 15:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>23: lol&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-137197"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: LynchMob</title>
		<link>http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/more-spring-training-thoughts.html#comment-136914</link>
		<dc:creator>LynchMob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 23:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>22 ... "indeed"&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-136914"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>22 &#8230; &#8220;indeed&#8221;
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
		<link>http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/more-spring-training-thoughts.html#comment-136911</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 23:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LM, are you contending the OSU Beavers are "defending national champs" or something?&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-136911"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LM, are you contending the OSU Beavers are &#8220;defending national champs&#8221; or something?
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		<title>By: LynchMob</title>
		<link>http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/more-spring-training-thoughts.html#comment-136895</link>
		<dc:creator>LynchMob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 22:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another "spring" (quotation marks are for you, Pat :-) ) option for baseball is to go the college rout ... for example, if you're going to be over in Tempe, AZ the weekend of Feb 22-24 you can watch the 2-time defending national champs play in the Arizona State Tourny ... or you can wait until March 7/8/9/10 when they play in the San Diego State Tourny (Sat. March 8th game @ Petco) ...

http://www.osubeavers.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=4700&#38;KEY=&#38;SPID=1962&#38;SPSID=24961&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-136895"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another &#8220;spring&#8221; (quotation marks are for you, Pat <img src='http://ducksnorts.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> ) option for baseball is to go the college rout &#8230; for example, if you&#8217;re going to be over in Tempe, AZ the weekend of Feb 22-24 you can watch the 2-time defending national champs play in the Arizona State Tourny &#8230; or you can wait until March 7/8/9/10 when they play in the San Diego State Tourny (Sat. March 8th game @ Petco) &#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.osubeavers.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=4700&amp;KEY=&amp;SPID=1962&amp;SPSID=24961" rel="nofollow">http://www.osubeavers.com/Spor.....PSID=24961</a>
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		<title>By: LynchMob</title>
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		<dc:creator>LynchMob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 22:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OT ... a reminder of what the 2008 draft is looking like ...

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/askba/265300.html

Padres picked up a sup 1st round pick for losing Brocail ... which is amazing, ain't it?  And will pick up another if/when Cameron signs.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-136892"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OT &#8230; a reminder of what the 2008 draft is looking like &#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/askba/265300.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.baseballamerica.com.....65300.html</a></p>
<p>Padres picked up a sup 1st round pick for losing Brocail &#8230; which is amazing, ain&#8217;t it?  And will pick up another if/when Cameron signs.
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		<title>By: LynchMob</title>
		<link>http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/more-spring-training-thoughts.html#comment-136879</link>
		<dc:creator>LynchMob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 22:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A friend of mine just gave me something that looks to be a USPS product commemorating TG's 3000th hit ... while doing some google-based research to see what it is, I found this web site ...

http://www.wsradio.com/shoptonygwynn.cfm/store/tony-gwynn-framed-envelopes.html

... "The official web site for Tony Gwynn Sports Memorabilia" ... hmmm ... fyi ...&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-136879"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A friend of mine just gave me something that looks to be a USPS product commemorating TG&#8217;s 3000th hit &#8230; while doing some google-based research to see what it is, I found this web site &#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wsradio.com/shoptonygwynn.cfm/store/tony-gwynn-framed-envelopes.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.wsradio.com/shopton.....lopes.html</a></p>
<p>&#8230; &#8220;The official web site for Tony Gwynn Sports Memorabilia&#8221; &#8230; hmmm &#8230; fyi &#8230;
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		<title>By: Phantom</title>
		<link>http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/more-spring-training-thoughts.html#comment-136865</link>
		<dc:creator>Phantom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 21:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great THT article about the true definition of "league average". http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/the-burdens-of-being-average/

Given these metrics, here's how the Padres compared:

2007 OPS+ by position
Pos   Mean   Median
C      86     83

Bard: 107 OPS+ 
Barrett: 40 (!) OPS +

Yikes! Bard was well above average, but Barrett, dear God. Given the playing time distributions, the Padres probably ended up above average here, but man did Barrett pull us down.

1B    115    108

Gonzalez: 125 

This pretty much confirms what we already knew, Adrian is a freakin stud at 1B. It will be interesting to see how Blanks forces the FO's hand in a couple years...

2B     96    100

Giles: 68 
Blum: 84

Clearly 2B was a problem for us last year. We were well below average here, and with Iguchi's career OPS+ of 98, we should be well within the bounds of average.

3B    109    101

Kouz: 109 

Kouz, who was the median 3B from last year, put up pretty good numbers considering how the season started. I look for his OPS+ next year to be in the 120 range.

SS     94     94

Greene: 100

In Khalil, we truly have an above average short stop. Not only does Khalil play great D, but his bat plays better than most in spite of his awful OBP.

RF    111    105

Giles: 109

Not sure how to feel about this. Giles is clearly average, and at this point I think that's all we can really hope for. Maybe he'd be better in LF (who, as you will see, produce lower numbers)?

CF     97     88

Cameron: 103

Cameron was truly an above average CF, although his is more of a case of the glove making the true distinction. For reference sake, Edmonds posted an 88 OPS+ in 07, which is on the lower bounds of average.

LF    107    101

Cruz: 86
Sledge: 80
Bradley: 167 (!)
Hairston: 156 (!)

Holy crap, was LF all over the place or what?! We probably ended up close to, if not above, average for the year. Good God, I didn't realize what a monster Bradley was for us. Hairston wasn't no slouch either.

It's important to remember that all of the numbers here are for just their contributions as Padres. In Barrett's case, this deflates the numbers. For Hairston and Bradley, it's just the opposite.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-136865"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great THT article about the true definition of &#8220;league average&#8221;. <a href="http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/the-burdens-of-being-average/" rel="nofollow">http://www.hardballtimes.com/m.....g-average/</a></p>
<p>Given these metrics, here&#8217;s how the Padres compared:</p>
<p>2007 OPS+ by position<br />
Pos   Mean   Median<br />
C      86     83</p>
<p>Bard: 107 OPS+<br />
Barrett: 40 (!) OPS +</p>
<p>Yikes! Bard was well above average, but Barrett, dear God. Given the playing time distributions, the Padres probably ended up above average here, but man did Barrett pull us down.</p>
<p>1B    115    108</p>
<p>Gonzalez: 125 </p>
<p>This pretty much confirms what we already knew, Adrian is a freakin stud at 1B. It will be interesting to see how Blanks forces the FO&#8217;s hand in a couple years&#8230;</p>
<p>2B     96    100</p>
<p>Giles: 68<br />
Blum: 84</p>
<p>Clearly 2B was a problem for us last year. We were well below average here, and with Iguchi&#8217;s career OPS+ of 98, we should be well within the bounds of average.</p>
<p>3B    109    101</p>
<p>Kouz: 109 </p>
<p>Kouz, who was the median 3B from last year, put up pretty good numbers considering how the season started. I look for his OPS+ next year to be in the 120 range.</p>
<p>SS     94     94</p>
<p>Greene: 100</p>
<p>In Khalil, we truly have an above average short stop. Not only does Khalil play great D, but his bat plays better than most in spite of his awful OBP.</p>
<p>RF    111    105</p>
<p>Giles: 109</p>
<p>Not sure how to feel about this. Giles is clearly average, and at this point I think that&#8217;s all we can really hope for. Maybe he&#8217;d be better in LF (who, as you will see, produce lower numbers)?</p>
<p>CF     97     88</p>
<p>Cameron: 103</p>
<p>Cameron was truly an above average CF, although his is more of a case of the glove making the true distinction. For reference sake, Edmonds posted an 88 OPS+ in 07, which is on the lower bounds of average.</p>
<p>LF    107    101</p>
<p>Cruz: 86<br />
Sledge: 80<br />
Bradley: 167 (!)<br />
Hairston: 156 (!)</p>
<p>Holy crap, was LF all over the place or what?! We probably ended up close to, if not above, average for the year. Good God, I didn&#8217;t realize what a monster Bradley was for us. Hairston wasn&#8217;t no slouch either.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s important to remember that all of the numbers here are for just their contributions as Padres. In Barrett&#8217;s case, this deflates the numbers. For Hairston and Bradley, it&#8217;s just the opposite.
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 21:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>14: LM, what's with all the quotation marks?  Are you going all Dr. Evil on us?  :-)

Last time I checked they really were practicing on the practice fields at the same site where the ST games are played.  ;-)&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-136862"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>14: LM, what&#8217;s with all the quotation marks?  Are you going all Dr. Evil on us?  <img src='http://ducksnorts.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Last time I checked they really were practicing on the practice fields at the same site where the ST games are played.  <img src='http://ducksnorts.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>By: LynchMob</title>
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		<dc:creator>LynchMob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 19:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And here's a Padres-specific page ...

http://www.springtrainingonline.com/teams/san_diego_padres.htm

... which has a link to minor-league info ... which is not yet available ...&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-136835"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And here&#8217;s a Padres-specific page &#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.springtrainingonline.com/teams/san_diego_padres.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.springtrainingonlin.....padres.htm</a></p>
<p>&#8230; which has a link to minor-league info &#8230; which is not yet available &#8230;
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		<title>By: LynchMob</title>
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		<dc:creator>LynchMob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 19:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's a Master Schedule for the Cactus League ...

http://www.springtrainingonline.com/features/master_schedule_cactus.htm&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-136833"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a Master Schedule for the Cactus League &#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.springtrainingonline.com/features/master_schedule_cactus.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.springtrainingonlin.....cactus.htm</a>
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