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		<title>By: The Sacrifice Bunt &#124; 1-4 Sacrificial Links</title>
		<link>http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/friday-links-4-jan-08.html#comment-139521</link>
		<dc:creator>The Sacrifice Bunt &#124; 1-4 Sacrificial Links</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post is by no means an attempt to bite Ducksnorts&#8217; Friday Links. Sacrificial Links are crazy enough to come out any day of the week, this is just a coincidence. [...]&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-139521"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Steve C</title>
		<link>http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/friday-links-4-jan-08.html#comment-136739</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The other line I loved was when he said "If someone sold me steroids then why arn't they coming forward?"

Well I know that if I had sold Clemens steroids there is no way in H E double hockey sticks that I would I would come forward and say it.  I don’t think I would be to keen on having to go to congressional hearings and being mentioned in government reports, I don’t think it would be that good for business.

The main reason why I think Clemens is guilty is because McNamee had no reason to lie, it did not seem like he had a grudge against Clemens and even if he did he wound have been guilty of perjury if he was found out, and the whole reason why he was doing this was to avoid jail time.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-136739"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other line I loved was when he said &#8220;If someone sold me steroids then why arn&#8217;t they coming forward?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well I know that if I had sold Clemens steroids there is no way in H E double hockey sticks that I would I would come forward and say it.  I don’t think I would be to keen on having to go to congressional hearings and being mentioned in government reports, I don’t think it would be that good for business.</p>
<p>The main reason why I think Clemens is guilty is because McNamee had no reason to lie, it did not seem like he had a grudge against Clemens and even if he did he wound have been guilty of perjury if he was found out, and the whole reason why he was doing this was to avoid jail time.
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		<title>By: Tom Waits</title>
		<link>http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/friday-links-4-jan-08.html#comment-136736</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Waits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>87: Yeah. It's not very smart. The owners have already proven they can't help themselves when they have money to spend. What kind of concessions does Selig expect the union to offer if he's raking them over the coals for this, in direct contradiction to what the Mitchell Report calls for?    

There's a nice bit of writing in the middle of this story:

http://tinyurl.com/2nqqh5

Clemens swears he never took "banned" substances. That's not the same as swearing he never took HGH or steroids. He could technically be telling the truth if he took steroids only before 2002 and stopped taking HGH after 2005.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-136736"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>87: Yeah. It&#8217;s not very smart. The owners have already proven they can&#8217;t help themselves when they have money to spend. What kind of concessions does Selig expect the union to offer if he&#8217;s raking them over the coals for this, in direct contradiction to what the Mitchell Report calls for?    </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a nice bit of writing in the middle of this story:</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/2nqqh5" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/2nqqh5</a></p>
<p>Clemens swears he never took &#8220;banned&#8221; substances. That&#8217;s not the same as swearing he never took HGH or steroids. He could technically be telling the truth if he took steroids only before 2002 and stopped taking HGH after 2005.
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		<title>By: Tom Waits</title>
		<link>http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/friday-links-4-jan-08.html#comment-136731</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Waits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>86: It's like Eddie Murphy's "Wasn't Me" routine. Keep it short, simple, and repetitive. Didn't happen. Didn't happen. Didn't happen. 

Clemens filed suit last night. He's going to have a hard time damaging McNamee's credibility when Pettite has already admitted McNamee wasn't fibbing about him. 

McNamee's not some shady personal trainer who got into the Yankee clubhouse by handing a 20 to the attendant, or a low-ranking staffer who says he stumbled onto an awkward scene in the shower. He was the NY strength coach. He seems to have been everywhere Clemens was after the Rocket left Boston. Strength coach in Toronto, in NY, and then in some capacity in Houston.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-136731"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>86: It&#8217;s like Eddie Murphy&#8217;s &#8220;Wasn&#8217;t Me&#8221; routine. Keep it short, simple, and repetitive. Didn&#8217;t happen. Didn&#8217;t happen. Didn&#8217;t happen. </p>
<p>Clemens filed suit last night. He&#8217;s going to have a hard time damaging McNamee&#8217;s credibility when Pettite has already admitted McNamee wasn&#8217;t fibbing about him. </p>
<p>McNamee&#8217;s not some shady personal trainer who got into the Yankee clubhouse by handing a 20 to the attendant, or a low-ranking staffer who says he stumbled onto an awkward scene in the shower. He was the NY strength coach. He seems to have been everywhere Clemens was after the Rocket left Boston. Strength coach in Toronto, in NY, and then in some capacity in Houston.
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		<title>By: Steve C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: 83 thats what happens when you have an owner for a commissioner.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-136728"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: 83 thats what happens when you have an owner for a commissioner.
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		<title>By: Steve C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 15:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: 78 loved the "didn't Happen" defense, I don’t understand why more lawyers don't use it.

I also loved how he dodged the lie detector questions "I dont know if it would be good or bad"  last time I checked its a good thing if you pass a lie detector test.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-136722"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: 78 loved the &#8220;didn&#8217;t Happen&#8221; defense, I don’t understand why more lawyers don&#8217;t use it.</p>
<p>I also loved how he dodged the lie detector questions &#8220;I dont know if it would be good or bad&#8221;  last time I checked its a good thing if you pass a lie detector test.
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		<title>By: Geoff Young</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 13:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#83, 84: Guys, the baseball stuff is great, but can we move the "toastmaster" conversation somewhere else? Debating placement of apostrophes doesn't advance any relevant discussions. Thanks.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-136673"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#83, 84: Guys, the baseball stuff is great, but can we move the &#8220;toastmaster&#8221; conversation somewhere else? Debating placement of apostrophes doesn&#8217;t advance any relevant discussions. Thanks.
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 07:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, my original opinion was that we shouldn’t bother discussing the point. But I don't think I have discussed it at length. I have mostly tried to combat your name-calling and generally inane points.

Now you want to "knock off points." Thanks, scorekeeper. Thanks for being so obtuse.

I haven't enjoyed this and think you have generally not understood most of what I have written and behaved poorly.

You took it to this level with the "toastmaster" comment. So here we are. If you didn't like my first post about this, so what. Guess what: People say a lot of things every day. Get over it.

If you or anyone else if giving out "titles," then you are poor poster, and this isn't a site with civil discourse.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-136619"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, my original opinion was that we shouldn’t bother discussing the point. But I don&#8217;t think I have discussed it at length. I have mostly tried to combat your name-calling and generally inane points.</p>
<p>Now you want to &#8220;knock off points.&#8221; Thanks, scorekeeper. Thanks for being so obtuse.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t enjoyed this and think you have generally not understood most of what I have written and behaved poorly.</p>
<p>You took it to this level with the &#8220;toastmaster&#8221; comment. So here we are. If you didn&#8217;t like my first post about this, so what. Guess what: People say a lot of things every day. Get over it.</p>
<p>If you or anyone else if giving out &#8220;titles,&#8221; then you are poor poster, and this isn&#8217;t a site with civil discourse.
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		<title>By: Tom Waits</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Waits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 04:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>74: I've enjoyed this immensely. And I'd like to point out that if we're going to be absolutely correct on all terms, Kevin's got to knock 1 point off every time he wrote "steroids" instead of PED or PEDs or performance enhancers. HGH isn't a steroid. EPO isn't a steroid. 

75: That's exactly it, I don't honestly know if, or how much, fan opinion has changed now that nobody can pretend PED use was limited or unusual. If the Padres think Bonds can help them on the field, it behooves them to find out. They don't gain anything by assuming they already know the answer. And you're right, the indictment is going to push teams away from him, although I'm sure a conditional contract could get around that. 

78: If you're willing to stick that many needles in your body, you're willing to swallow half a bottle of tranqs before the lie detector test.  I'm stunned that MLB has allowed - not even allowed, encouraged - this to swing back on the players. The Mitchell Report calls the owners on the carpet. They've got documents from GMs proving that management knew about the issue a long time ago. But the commissioner's office seems intent on turning it into a hammer against the MLBPA. They're liable to stick themselves in the eye with the claw if they keep swinging it this hard.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-136598"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>74: I&#8217;ve enjoyed this immensely. And I&#8217;d like to point out that if we&#8217;re going to be absolutely correct on all terms, Kevin&#8217;s got to knock 1 point off every time he wrote &#8220;steroids&#8221; instead of PED or PEDs or performance enhancers. HGH isn&#8217;t a steroid. EPO isn&#8217;t a steroid. </p>
<p>75: That&#8217;s exactly it, I don&#8217;t honestly know if, or how much, fan opinion has changed now that nobody can pretend PED use was limited or unusual. If the Padres think Bonds can help them on the field, it behooves them to find out. They don&#8217;t gain anything by assuming they already know the answer. And you&#8217;re right, the indictment is going to push teams away from him, although I&#8217;m sure a conditional contract could get around that. </p>
<p>78: If you&#8217;re willing to stick that many needles in your body, you&#8217;re willing to swallow half a bottle of tranqs before the lie detector test.  I&#8217;m stunned that MLB has allowed - not even allowed, encouraged - this to swing back on the players. The Mitchell Report calls the owners on the carpet. They&#8217;ve got documents from GMs proving that management knew about the issue a long time ago. But the commissioner&#8217;s office seems intent on turning it into a hammer against the MLBPA. They&#8217;re liable to stick themselves in the eye with the claw if they keep swinging it this hard.
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		<title>By: LynchMob</title>
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		<dc:creator>LynchMob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 03:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>80 ... Didi ... you *would* like any post titled "Old Man River" (inside joke) :-)&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-136593"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>80 &#8230; Didi &#8230; you *would* like any post titled &#8220;Old Man River&#8221; (inside joke) <img src='http://ducksnorts.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />
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