Comments on: Bad Pitching Performances, Book and Spring Training Updates http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/bad-pitching-performances-book-and-spring-training-updates.html Blogging the San Diego Padres baseball club. Established 1997. Sat, 22 Nov 2008 07:52:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Geoff Young http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/bad-pitching-performances-book-and-spring-training-updates.html#comment-140371 Geoff Young Fri, 18 Jan 2008 14:39:30 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/bad-pitching-performances-book-and-spring-training-updates.html#comment-140371 #51: <blockquote>Lets hope the luck continues. I have doubted Towers before and most of the time (90% of the time) he has been right.</blockquote> So, that's probably not luck. Maybe more like skill.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-140371">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> #51:

Lets hope the luck continues. I have doubted Towers before and most of the time (90% of the time) he has been right.

So, that’s probably not luck. Maybe more like skill.

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]]> By: Masticore317 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/bad-pitching-performances-book-and-spring-training-updates.html#comment-140332 Masticore317 Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:36:28 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/bad-pitching-performances-book-and-spring-training-updates.html#comment-140332 36 - I'm guessing the Padres saw something they didn't like in Jenning's medical report.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-140332">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> 36 - I’m guessing the Padres saw something they didn’t like in Jenning’s medical report.

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]]> By: JP http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/bad-pitching-performances-book-and-spring-training-updates.html#comment-140278 JP Fri, 18 Jan 2008 05:19:53 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/bad-pitching-performances-book-and-spring-training-updates.html#comment-140278 As for the before mentioned trades, the Padres got extremely lucky with Hairston and Bradley. Lets hope the luck continues. I have doubted Towers before and most of the time (90% of the time) he has been right.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-140278">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> As for the before mentioned trades, the Padres got extremely lucky with Hairston and Bradley. Lets hope the luck continues. I have doubted Towers before and most of the time (90% of the time) he has been right.

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]]> By: Geoff Young http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/bad-pitching-performances-book-and-spring-training-updates.html#comment-140276 Geoff Young Fri, 18 Jan 2008 04:38:24 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/bad-pitching-performances-book-and-spring-training-updates.html#comment-140276 #1, 3, 8: Thanks for the suggestions! Yes, Matt & Mud were very helpful last year. #2: Cool. I hope to have more info early next week. #7: Slog. Yeah, that's a good word for it. But there's nothing I'd rather be doing. 8) #11: Ah, bummer. Maybe next year. I'm sure we'll have something during the season, too. #13: Solid. Regarding the outfield situation, we got Milton Bradley and Scott Hairston for a glass of water last year. That worked out okay. Gonzalez and Lofton do nothing for me. I don't like the idea of paying a lot for backups. If we're not going to bring in someone who offers a legitimate upgrade, I'd rather see what the in-house guys can do.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-140276">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> #1, 3, 8: Thanks for the suggestions! Yes, Matt & Mud were very helpful last year.

#2: Cool. I hope to have more info early next week.

#7: Slog. Yeah, that’s a good word for it. But there’s nothing I’d rather be doing. 8)

#11: Ah, bummer. Maybe next year. I’m sure we’ll have something during the season, too.

#13: Solid.

Regarding the outfield situation, we got Milton Bradley and Scott Hairston for a glass of water last year. That worked out okay. Gonzalez and Lofton do nothing for me. I don’t like the idea of paying a lot for backups. If we’re not going to bring in someone who offers a legitimate upgrade, I’d rather see what the in-house guys can do.

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]]> By: Brett http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/bad-pitching-performances-book-and-spring-training-updates.html#comment-140264 Brett Fri, 18 Jan 2008 03:03:09 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/bad-pitching-performances-book-and-spring-training-updates.html#comment-140264 46: Maybe there is a slight difference between Gonzalez and guys like Davanon, but he looks to be pretty similar to Hairston/Headley. Plus, there is no potential upside to Gonzalez, you know what you're going to get, but Hairston and Headley have the youth and potential to exceed projections. Also, by not spending 7 million on guys like Gonzalez, we were able to give Peavy an extension, and maybe now the Pads can look into locking up Khalil instead.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-140264">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> 46: Maybe there is a slight difference between Gonzalez and guys like Davanon, but he looks to be pretty similar to Hairston/Headley. Plus, there is no potential upside to Gonzalez, you know what you’re going to get, but Hairston and Headley have the youth and potential to exceed projections.

Also, by not spending 7 million on guys like Gonzalez, we were able to give Peavy an extension, and maybe now the Pads can look into locking up Khalil instead.

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]]> By: JP http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/bad-pitching-performances-book-and-spring-training-updates.html#comment-140263 JP Fri, 18 Jan 2008 02:58:41 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/bad-pitching-performances-book-and-spring-training-updates.html#comment-140263 Anyway enough beating of this dead horse. I totally understand what you are saying and the point you are making Mr. Waits but the near miracles that the Padres seemingly receive yearly now in the pitching roster in the form of a Heath Bell, Justin Hampson, Kevin Cameron and even to some degree with a Justin Germano is now being counted on in the outfield ---I don't feel comfortble the odds at present. not with the current depth chart.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-140263">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> Anyway enough beating of this dead horse. I totally understand what you are saying and the point you are making Mr. Waits but the near miracles that the Padres seemingly receive yearly now in the pitching roster in the form of a Heath Bell, Justin Hampson, Kevin Cameron and even to some degree with a Justin Germano is now being counted on in the outfield —I don’t feel comfortble the odds at present. not with the current depth chart.

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]]> By: Brett http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/bad-pitching-performances-book-and-spring-training-updates.html#comment-140262 Brett Fri, 18 Jan 2008 02:55:15 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/bad-pitching-performances-book-and-spring-training-updates.html#comment-140262 I think discussing Luis Gonzalez or any other free agent OF is a non-issue, unless it's Barry Bonds. I hate Barry as much as anybody, but honestly can any of the other guys even make a positive impact?<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-140262">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> I think discussing Luis Gonzalez or any other free agent OF is a non-issue, unless it’s Barry Bonds. I hate Barry as much as anybody, but honestly can any of the other guys even make a positive impact?

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]]> By: JP http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/bad-pitching-performances-book-and-spring-training-updates.html#comment-140261 JP Fri, 18 Jan 2008 02:49:53 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/bad-pitching-performances-book-and-spring-training-updates.html#comment-140261 I would love to replace Luis Gonzalez (500+ PA's) 2007 stats/at bats with 2007 Padres 2007 future phenom -lead off sensation Termel Sledge (227 PA's) or castoff Jose Cruz (287 PA's) / or the oft Ducksnorts defended and beloved Russell Branyan (142 PA's). If we do then we win the 90 games needed for the playoffs. I am only looking for one to two more wins...wins that can come in April or May as well. Who will it be this year in lieu of the overpaid "you can get them anytime" old, reliable vets ? Unproven "he looked o.k taking flys in January" Chase Headley or maybe DaVanon (talk about you can get a guy anytime ) ?<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-140261">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> I would love to replace Luis Gonzalez (500+ PA’s) 2007 stats/at bats with 2007 Padres 2007 future phenom -lead off sensation Termel Sledge (227 PA’s) or castoff Jose Cruz (287 PA’s) / or the oft Ducksnorts defended and beloved Russell Branyan (142 PA’s). If we do then we win the 90 games needed for the playoffs. I am only looking for one to two more wins…wins that can come in April or May as well.

Who will it be this year in lieu of the overpaid “you can get them anytime” old, reliable vets ? Unproven “he looked o.k taking flys in January” Chase Headley or maybe DaVanon (talk about you can get a guy anytime ) ?

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]]> By: LynchMob http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/bad-pitching-performances-book-and-spring-training-updates.html#comment-140258 LynchMob Fri, 18 Jan 2008 02:30:00 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/bad-pitching-performances-book-and-spring-training-updates.html#comment-140258 42 ... I'm just not a Corey Brock fan ... for example, this exerpt from his Headley article ... "We know he can hit," general manager Kevin Towers said of Headley, who hit .330 at Double-A San Antonio a year ago with 20 home runs and 78 RBIs. ... is just classic "old school" ... when the truth is that "we know he can hit" because of his AWESOME on-base percentage (.437 at AA, per http://minors.baseball-reference.com/players.cgi?pid=6402), not his "triple crown stats" (though the HRs are impressive and important) ...<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-140258">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> 42 … I’m just not a Corey Brock fan … for example, this exerpt from his Headley article …

“We know he can hit,” general manager Kevin Towers said of Headley, who hit .330 at Double-A San Antonio a year ago with 20 home runs and 78 RBIs.

… is just classic “old school” … when the truth is that “we know he can hit” because of his AWESOME on-base percentage (.437 at AA, per http://minors.baseball-referen.....i?pid=6402), not his “triple crown stats” (though the HRs are impressive and important) …

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]]> By: LynchMob http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/bad-pitching-performances-book-and-spring-training-updates.html#comment-140257 LynchMob Fri, 18 Jan 2008 02:24:52 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2008/01/bad-pitching-performances-book-and-spring-training-updates.html#comment-140257 42 ... one other name was mentioned to add to the list of "in-house candidates" ... Chip Ambres ... and I'm forgetting who he is???<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-140257">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> 42 … one other name was mentioned to add to the list of “in-house candidates” … Chip Ambres … and I’m forgetting who he is???

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