Comments on: Prior Returns Home to San Diego http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/12/prior-returns-home-to-san-diego.html Blogging the San Diego Padres baseball club. Established 1997. Sat, 22 Nov 2008 05:12:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Phantom http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/12/prior-returns-home-to-san-diego.html#comment-133513 Phantom Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:56:03 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/12/prior-returns-home-to-san-diego.html#comment-133513 What does anyone think about possibly acquiring Livan Hernandez as another starter? I know this means we have a complete log jam with our pitching staff, but is there a possibility we could flip a healthy Rusch or Estes for some OF help in May?<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-133513">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> What does anyone think about possibly acquiring Livan Hernandez as another starter? I know this means we have a complete log jam with our pitching staff, but is there a possibility we could flip a healthy Rusch or Estes for some OF help in May?

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]]> By: Didi http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/12/prior-returns-home-to-san-diego.html#comment-133307 Didi Fri, 28 Dec 2007 03:39:01 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/12/prior-returns-home-to-san-diego.html#comment-133307 This is a much better gamble than the $8 million given to Boomer last off season. Of course, no one is expecting Prior to pitch nearly as many innings as Boomer did last season...not that he was any good for most of them. I'm guessing that Mark Prior will be starting from the bullpen and then into the rotation. I'll be happier if the Padres would actually skip the 5th starter when the scheduled #1, #2, and #3 pitchers are up after their fourth day. Still, I'd like to see a true inning eaters for the fifth spot. Counting on Prior at this point is like counting on either Carillo or Hensley to pitch in the season.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-133307">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> This is a much better gamble than the $8 million given to Boomer last off season.
Of course, no one is expecting Prior to pitch nearly as many innings as Boomer did last season…not that he was any good for most of them.

I’m guessing that Mark Prior will be starting from the bullpen and then into the rotation. I’ll be happier if the Padres would actually skip the 5th starter when the scheduled #1, #2, and #3 pitchers are up after their fourth day.

Still, I’d like to see a true inning eaters for the fifth spot. Counting on Prior at this point is like counting on either Carillo or Hensley to pitch in the season.

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]]> By: Kevin http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/12/prior-returns-home-to-san-diego.html#comment-133297 Kevin Fri, 28 Dec 2007 03:12:12 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/12/prior-returns-home-to-san-diego.html#comment-133297 I have a reprint of that Farrah poster.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-133297">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> I have a reprint of that Farrah poster.

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]]> By: Paul R http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/12/prior-returns-home-to-san-diego.html#comment-133286 Paul R Fri, 28 Dec 2007 01:50:43 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/12/prior-returns-home-to-san-diego.html#comment-133286 25: That being said, as a Padres fan I'm certainly willing to help him rebuild his value here on a one-year basis. If he has the kind of season that is going to entice teams into a bidding war next year, it'll mean that the Padres have gotten more than their moneys worth from him.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-133286">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> 25: That being said, as a Padres fan I’m certainly willing to help him rebuild his value here on a one-year basis. If he has the kind of season that is going to entice teams into a bidding war next year, it’ll mean that the Padres have gotten more than their moneys worth from him.

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]]> By: Phantom http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/12/prior-returns-home-to-san-diego.html#comment-133259 Phantom Thu, 27 Dec 2007 23:23:30 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/12/prior-returns-home-to-san-diego.html#comment-133259 22: I don't see him resigning if he has a big year and we won't get a draft pick from him unless he pitches 100+ innings without giving up a run. Draft picks depend on two-year rankings that are produced by Elias. Prior would have to have an absolutely MONSTER year to account for the fact that he basically played for only 25% of the eligible time. As for money, he'd have to really like the ballpark and the team to stay here. His actions are indicative of someone who is trying to rebuild value and then rake in the cash at a later date. We'll see what happens.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-133259">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> 22: I don’t see him resigning if he has a big year and we won’t get a draft pick from him unless he pitches 100+ innings without giving up a run.

Draft picks depend on two-year rankings that are produced by Elias. Prior would have to have an absolutely MONSTER year to account for the fact that he basically played for only 25% of the eligible time.

As for money, he’d have to really like the ballpark and the team to stay here. His actions are indicative of someone who is trying to rebuild value and then rake in the cash at a later date. We’ll see what happens.

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]]> By: Tom Waits http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/12/prior-returns-home-to-san-diego.html#comment-133254 Tom Waits Thu, 27 Dec 2007 23:11:52 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/12/prior-returns-home-to-san-diego.html#comment-133254 22: Not sure how low that salary would be. Prior reportedly had some offers for a modest salary and multiple years. Most of the other bidders were offering at least an option. He left some guaranteed money on the table for the ability to be a free agent after 2008. We may have a leg up on signing him, but if he's healthy it's not going to be all that cheap. "And of course, the Padres already have Hensley, Rusch, Estes, and Germano to provide replacement-level production, and not very many teams can say they have that many options for the 5th starter spot." Did a lot of other teams disband their AAA squads and I missed it?<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-133254">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> 22: Not sure how low that salary would be. Prior reportedly had some offers for a modest salary and multiple years. Most of the other bidders were offering at least an option. He left some guaranteed money on the table for the ability to be a free agent after 2008. We may have a leg up on signing him, but if he’s healthy it’s not going to be all that cheap.

“And of course, the Padres already have Hensley, Rusch, Estes, and Germano to provide replacement-level production, and not very many teams can say they have that many options for the 5th starter spot.”

Did a lot of other teams disband their AAA squads and I missed it?

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]]> By: UC Michael http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/12/prior-returns-home-to-san-diego.html#comment-133247 UC Michael Thu, 27 Dec 2007 22:55:00 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/12/prior-returns-home-to-san-diego.html#comment-133247 Also, has anyone mentioned that the Padres pitching staff has seven former all stars? That's pretty amazing. I know that past success doesn't equal present success, but have the Padres ever had that many all stars on their roster?<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-133247">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> Also, has anyone mentioned that the Padres pitching staff has seven former all stars? That’s pretty amazing. I know that past success doesn’t equal present success, but have the Padres ever had that many all stars on their roster?

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]]> By: UC Michael http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/12/prior-returns-home-to-san-diego.html#comment-133246 UC Michael Thu, 27 Dec 2007 22:52:13 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/12/prior-returns-home-to-san-diego.html#comment-133246 Another great thing about this signing is that, if Prior has a decent season, there's a chance that the Padres could retain him for a few years at a relatively low salary. If he performs extremely well, he might be worth a draft pick if he leaves (unlike most starters who are available for 1 year contracts). If he performs poorly, he costs nearly nothing. And if he likes the ballpark, the coaching staff, and the team (all probable!), he might be willing to re-sign for cheap even if he performs well. And of course, the Padres already have Hensley, Rusch, Estes, and Germano to provide replacement-level production, and not very many teams can say they have that many options for the 5th starter spot.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-133246">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> Another great thing about this signing is that, if Prior has a decent season, there’s a chance that the Padres could retain him for a few years at a relatively low salary. If he performs extremely well, he might be worth a draft pick if he leaves (unlike most starters who are available for 1 year contracts). If he performs poorly, he costs nearly nothing.

And if he likes the ballpark, the coaching staff, and the team (all probable!), he might be willing to re-sign for cheap even if he performs well.

And of course, the Padres already have Hensley, Rusch, Estes, and Germano to provide replacement-level production, and not very many teams can say they have that many options for the 5th starter spot.

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]]> By: Tom Waits http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/12/prior-returns-home-to-san-diego.html#comment-133242 Tom Waits Thu, 27 Dec 2007 22:39:29 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/12/prior-returns-home-to-san-diego.html#comment-133242 19: There was no MLB requirement in my wish list. I'd take a youngster who had a really good season in AAA, which none of our projected 5th starters have managed. But teams hold onto those guys. Kei Igawa had several very good seasons in Japan. He had a really strong year in AAA. He seems to be an extreme K / flyball pitcher. Most important, the words "coming off surgery" are not attached to him.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-133242">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> 19: There was no MLB requirement in my wish list. I’d take a youngster who had a really good season in AAA, which none of our projected 5th starters have managed. But teams hold onto those guys.

Kei Igawa had several very good seasons in Japan. He had a really strong year in AAA. He seems to be an extreme K / flyball pitcher. Most important, the words “coming off surgery” are not attached to him.

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]]> By: Pat http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/12/prior-returns-home-to-san-diego.html#comment-133238 Pat Thu, 27 Dec 2007 22:31:41 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/12/prior-returns-home-to-san-diego.html#comment-133238 RE #7: See #8. :-) 18: I'm with you. I'd love to see Hernandez here as a 4th or 5th starter. No, he's not going to be a front line guy, but at #4 or #5 he's almost certain to give you 200+ IP at about league average ERA, which for a 4 or 5 starter is great.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-133238">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> RE #7: See #8. :-)

18: I’m with you. I’d love to see Hernandez here as a 4th or 5th starter. No, he’s not going to be a front line guy, but at #4 or #5 he’s almost certain to give you 200+ IP at about league average ERA, which for a 4 or 5 starter is great.

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