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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/12/black-vs-bochy.html#comment-129065</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 17:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice overview - I posted a &lt;a href="http://friarforum.com/2007/12/comparing-padre-managers.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;follow-on at my blog&lt;/a&gt;.  It looks at some of the differences called out in this original post.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-129065"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice overview - I posted a <a href="http://friarforum.com/2007/12/comparing-padre-managers.html" rel="nofollow">follow-on at my blog</a>.  It looks at some of the differences called out in this original post.
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		<title>By: UC Michael</title>
		<link>http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/12/black-vs-bochy.html#comment-127871</link>
		<dc:creator>UC Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't like Estrada as a backup at all. He's a bad defender, his OBPs are usually around .300, and his SLGs are usually around .400. And beyond that, he is generally unliked by his teammates. I'd rather go with Colt Morton or poach someone from another team's AAA roster than add Estrada.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-127871"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t like Estrada as a backup at all. He&#8217;s a bad defender, his OBPs are usually around .300, and his SLGs are usually around .400. And beyond that, he is generally unliked by his teammates. I&#8217;d rather go with Colt Morton or poach someone from another team&#8217;s AAA roster than add Estrada.
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		<title>By: Didi</title>
		<link>http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/12/black-vs-bochy.html#comment-127839</link>
		<dc:creator>Didi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everett signed with the Twins. Very nice move, defensive replacement for Brendan Harris?&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-127839"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everett signed with the Twins. Very nice move, defensive replacement for Brendan Harris?
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		<title>By: Geoff Young</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#240: Well, we did "lose" Yordany Ramirez. ;-)&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-127794"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#240: Well, we did &#8220;lose&#8221; Yordany Ramirez. <img src='http://ducksnorts.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>By: Tom Waits</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Waits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>238: I like Estrada as a backup too.

Nook Logan? I wasn't aware the Storm needed a CF.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-127789"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>238: I like Estrada as a backup too.</p>
<p>Nook Logan? I wasn&#8217;t aware the Storm needed a CF.
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>214: Now that was an awesome post.  Great summary of my perspective on the FO; thanks for writing that up for me, Peter.  :-)

DEX: Great to have you post here.  I haven't posted at Gaslamp Ball, but I love reading your blog, too!  It's a dynamite blend of smart, knowledgeable baseball and fantastic humor.  Good to have you over here.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-127780"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>214: Now that was an awesome post.  Great summary of my perspective on the FO; thanks for writing that up for me, Peter.  <img src='http://ducksnorts.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>DEX: Great to have you post here.  I haven&#8217;t posted at Gaslamp Ball, but I love reading your blog, too!  It&#8217;s a dynamite blend of smart, knowledgeable baseball and fantastic humor.  Good to have you over here.
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		<title>By: Steve C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey if the Pads trade Barrett I would love for them to sign Estrada!

Im sure Aki is coming back to SD, he loves it here, we love him here, its win win.  I would imagine that if he does need TJ then the pads will sign him to a minor league deal and wait for him to rehab.  

I also would like the pads sign Nook Logan and give him a shot.

I think Everett would waste a spot on the bench because he cant hit let alone PH, and with Greenie you dont need a late defensive sub.  I know he would be great to have if Greenie gets hurt but he'll be just a waisted bench spot when Greenie is healthy.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-127710"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey if the Pads trade Barrett I would love for them to sign Estrada!</p>
<p>Im sure Aki is coming back to SD, he loves it here, we love him here, its win win.  I would imagine that if he does need TJ then the pads will sign him to a minor league deal and wait for him to rehab.  </p>
<p>I also would like the pads sign Nook Logan and give him a shot.</p>
<p>I think Everett would waste a spot on the bench because he cant hit let alone PH, and with Greenie you dont need a late defensive sub.  I know he would be great to have if Greenie gets hurt but he&#8217;ll be just a waisted bench spot when Greenie is healthy.
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		<title>By: Coronado Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coronado Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I am not advocating an Estrada signing...just interesting.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-127706"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I am not advocating an Estrada signing&#8230;just interesting.
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		<title>By: Coronado Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coronado Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two other interesting names...

Johnny Estrada, Catcher, was released by the Mets.

Ben Johnson, OF, yes, that Ben Johnson, ex-Padre, released by the Mets.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-127696"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two other interesting names&#8230;</p>
<p>Johnny Estrada, Catcher, was released by the Mets.</p>
<p>Ben Johnson, OF, yes, that Ben Johnson, ex-Padre, released by the Mets.
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		<title>By: Coronado Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coronado Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, this living on the East Coast thing makes it difficult to be a regular contributing member of the DS community...althought I get a kick out of the love being shown!

Re: 180...Name me one hitter developed by the Padres...just one in the last 10 years...no, KG does not count.  You need to have an OBP better than .300 to even be in the discussion.

Re: 185 -- Tigers make entirely more money on Radio/TV than the Pads...I see this $10mm number thrown around and I will have to cry BS on it.  That may be the difference in the TV deal alone...then throw in the radio money and the merchandice revenue and the gate revenue from away games (yes, the visiting team gets a cut) and I guarantee you that the Tigers pulled in WAY MORE than $10mm over the Pads...probably safe to assume at least double if not triple that or more.

Re: 208 -- No, but I have a new friend...

I have been advocating giving Everett a shot at SS for 2 years now...no, really, go back and look at some of the trade discussions around the ASB...KG's defense is not in the same caliber as Everett and his offense, while showy, does not make up the difference, especially when you consider what KG might bring in a trade.  You telling me that a Chicago (AL or NL) or Boston, or even the Blue Jays would not jump at the chance to bring on KG?  If we can get a solid ROI for KG, we need to do it!  

Finally, you have to believe that the reports about the Pads being very concerned about Prior's medical reprots are a bit overblown.  Could it be that info was leaked so as to make sure the Cubs thought the Pads backed off and won't be brought back to the table.  I lay 2-1 odds that Prior signs with the Pads...probably a 2 year deal or 1 + option deal...&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-127692"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, this living on the East Coast thing makes it difficult to be a regular contributing member of the DS community&#8230;althought I get a kick out of the love being shown!</p>
<p>Re: 180&#8230;Name me one hitter developed by the Padres&#8230;just one in the last 10 years&#8230;no, KG does not count.  You need to have an OBP better than .300 to even be in the discussion.</p>
<p>Re: 185 &#8212; Tigers make entirely more money on Radio/TV than the Pads&#8230;I see this $10mm number thrown around and I will have to cry BS on it.  That may be the difference in the TV deal alone&#8230;then throw in the radio money and the merchandice revenue and the gate revenue from away games (yes, the visiting team gets a cut) and I guarantee you that the Tigers pulled in WAY MORE than $10mm over the Pads&#8230;probably safe to assume at least double if not triple that or more.</p>
<p>Re: 208 &#8212; No, but I have a new friend&#8230;</p>
<p>I have been advocating giving Everett a shot at SS for 2 years now&#8230;no, really, go back and look at some of the trade discussions around the ASB&#8230;KG&#8217;s defense is not in the same caliber as Everett and his offense, while showy, does not make up the difference, especially when you consider what KG might bring in a trade.  You telling me that a Chicago (AL or NL) or Boston, or even the Blue Jays would not jump at the chance to bring on KG?  If we can get a solid ROI for KG, we need to do it!  </p>
<p>Finally, you have to believe that the reports about the Pads being very concerned about Prior&#8217;s medical reprots are a bit overblown.  Could it be that info was leaked so as to make sure the Cubs thought the Pads backed off and won&#8217;t be brought back to the table.  I lay 2-1 odds that Prior signs with the Pads&#8230;probably a 2 year deal or 1 + option deal&#8230;
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