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		<title>By: Oside Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oside Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 01:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh god that was painful to re-read...Why did I do that???&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-193573"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh god that was painful to re-read&#8230;Why did I do that???
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		<title>By: LynchMob</title>
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		<dc:creator>LynchMob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 17:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1019 ... thanks for the summary, Eric ... yikes!&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-91437"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1019 &#8230; thanks for the summary, Eric &#8230; yikes!
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		<title>By: Oside Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oside Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Classic ballgame last night.  We choked it away -errr honestly Trevor choked it away.  He knows it.  Bummer.  This game will go down in history.  The Padres were better than this -- I thought.  So frustrating.  Here's to a good offseason.  Towers has a lot of work ahead of him.  We could end up in 4th place next year.  We ended in 3rd this year.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-91362"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Classic ballgame last night.  We choked it away -errr honestly Trevor choked it away.  He knows it.  Bummer.  This game will go down in history.  The Padres were better than this &#8212; I thought.  So frustrating.  Here&#8217;s to a good offseason.  Towers has a lot of work ahead of him.  We could end up in 4th place next year.  We ended in 3rd this year.
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		<title>By: Steve C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: 1027 you dont know if he came back on the field after everyone left and touched the plate.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-91358"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: 1027 you dont know if he came back on the field after everyone left and touched the plate.
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		<title>By: Rich Campbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It coming up on 12 hours later...

... and Matt Holliday still hasn't touched home plate.

If he had called it right away, I wouldn't be bitter.  It's the fact that he thought about it.  It's not as bad as &lt;i&gt;My Pet Goat&lt;/i&gt; or anything.  I mean, there were plenty of chances for us to win that game.  But a tight zone to start a thirteenth inning and then that delay speak volumes to me.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-91356"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It coming up on 12 hours later&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230; and Matt Holliday still hasn&#8217;t touched home plate.</p>
<p>If he had called it right away, I wouldn&#8217;t be bitter.  It&#8217;s the fact that he thought about it.  It&#8217;s not as bad as <i>My Pet Goat</i> or anything.  I mean, there were plenty of chances for us to win that game.  But a tight zone to start a thirteenth inning and then that delay speak volumes to me.
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		<title>By: Tom Waits</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Waits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 13:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1021: I said almost 8, which it is if you add in some half-innings elsewhere. But it's not 8, true. It is nearly 15% of his workload for the month, which is substantial. It's also nearly 15% innings shaved off the high end of his fatigue curve, since those pitches were at the end of a game. 

Unfortunately, your opinion contravenes proven physiological and kinesiological fact. A greater volume and/or intensity of work in a given period reduces the work you're capable of doing in the rest of that period. 

Of course you assume you're going to win those games. They're bad offenses and we had a big lead more than halfway through, with a reinforced bullpen. That's exactly when you take the calculated decision to preserve your best starting pitcher. 

Starters and relievers have different routines because they're asking their bodies to do different things. What does a starter do when he's a little more sore than normal between starts? He SKIPS a bullpen, he REDUCES his work in order to have more available in the start. 

It's entirely possible they could have rested Peavy more, not rushed him into action against AZ, and we'd still have missed the playoffs. We just didn't do everything in our power to preserve his ability to dominate games.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-91351"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1021: I said almost 8, which it is if you add in some half-innings elsewhere. But it&#8217;s not 8, true. It is nearly 15% of his workload for the month, which is substantial. It&#8217;s also nearly 15% innings shaved off the high end of his fatigue curve, since those pitches were at the end of a game. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, your opinion contravenes proven physiological and kinesiological fact. A greater volume and/or intensity of work in a given period reduces the work you&#8217;re capable of doing in the rest of that period. </p>
<p>Of course you assume you&#8217;re going to win those games. They&#8217;re bad offenses and we had a big lead more than halfway through, with a reinforced bullpen. That&#8217;s exactly when you take the calculated decision to preserve your best starting pitcher. </p>
<p>Starters and relievers have different routines because they&#8217;re asking their bodies to do different things. What does a starter do when he&#8217;s a little more sore than normal between starts? He SKIPS a bullpen, he REDUCES his work in order to have more available in the start. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s entirely possible they could have rested Peavy more, not rushed him into action against AZ, and we&#8217;d still have missed the playoffs. We just didn&#8217;t do everything in our power to preserve his ability to dominate games.
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 06:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hoffman shouldn't be used in less high leverage situations, because he really isn't used in high leverage situations. 

Heath Bell is the better pitcher and he pitches in more high leverage situations. Just like Cla Meredith last season and Scott Linebrink before him, Bell pitches in tougher situations.

The modern role of the close is fairly low stress. Hoffman, for example, never pitches more than an inning.

Hoffman is quite a bit more than "resonably effective." His save percentage this season was .857. For his career, it's .893. 

He blew seven saves this season, just like in four previous years. No one said he should change roles then.

This is why reasoned people, some in them in baseball management positions, don't make decisions right after the season ends. Especially the same night.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-91325"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hoffman shouldn&#8217;t be used in less high leverage situations, because he really isn&#8217;t used in high leverage situations. </p>
<p>Heath Bell is the better pitcher and he pitches in more high leverage situations. Just like Cla Meredith last season and Scott Linebrink before him, Bell pitches in tougher situations.</p>
<p>The modern role of the close is fairly low stress. Hoffman, for example, never pitches more than an inning.</p>
<p>Hoffman is quite a bit more than &#8220;resonably effective.&#8221; His save percentage this season was .857. For his career, it&#8217;s .893. </p>
<p>He blew seven saves this season, just like in four previous years. No one said he should change roles then.</p>
<p>This is why reasoned people, some in them in baseball management positions, don&#8217;t make decisions right after the season ends. Especially the same night.
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 06:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1022, 1023: I think he missed the call.

He shouldn't be given an out for doing that. Evening things out, going home -- I don't think those things enter an umpire's mind.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-91324"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1022, 1023: I think he missed the call.</p>
<p>He shouldn&#8217;t be given an out for doing that. Evening things out, going home &#8212; I don&#8217;t think those things enter an umpire&#8217;s mind.
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		<title>By: SDSUBaseball</title>
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		<dc:creator>SDSUBaseball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 06:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1022:  If the umps thought they made the wrong call on the HR they would had overturned it after they met.  I dont think they were trying to even things out I think McCellen just wanted to end it and fell to the peer pressure.  kind of rediculous when 2 teams are playing thier asses off for a playoff spot.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-91323"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1022:  If the umps thought they made the wrong call on the HR they would had overturned it after they met.  I dont think they were trying to even things out I think McCellen just wanted to end it and fell to the peer pressure.  kind of rediculous when 2 teams are playing thier asses off for a playoff spot.
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		<title>By: BZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>BZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 06:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1017:  Thanks for saving me some typing LM, my wife has been making that point to me for the last hour and just convinced me to share with all....

I know that Umps secretly try to "even" these things out, but geez what a time to do it.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-91322"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1017:  Thanks for saving me some typing LM, my wife has been making that point to me for the last hour and just convinced me to share with all&#8230;.</p>
<p>I know that Umps secretly try to &#8220;even&#8221; these things out, but geez what a time to do it.
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