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		<title>By: JP</title>
		<link>http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/10/guys-you-forgot-were-padres.html#comment-95916</link>
		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Former Padre Wes Gardner ! How could we forget Wes Gardner.  For some reason I will always remember this Wes Gardner Save against LA in their home opener.   http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/LAN/LAN199104120.shtml

He was out of baseball shortly thereafter.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-95916"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Former Padre Wes Gardner ! How could we forget Wes Gardner.  For some reason I will always remember this Wes Gardner Save against LA in their home opener.   <a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/LAN/LAN199104120.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.baseball-reference......4120.shtml</a></p>
<p>He was out of baseball shortly thereafter.
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		<title>By: Masticore317</title>
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		<dc:creator>Masticore317</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 10:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris Brown and his tired eyelids have got to be near the top of this list.  How about Shawn Abner?  What a bust!!!  Who was the 3B vet we had in the 90's who had "vertigo" and had to retire - was that Presley?&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-94739"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris Brown and his tired eyelids have got to be near the top of this list.  How about Shawn Abner?  What a bust!!!  Who was the 3B vet we had in the 90&#8217;s who had &#8220;vertigo&#8221; and had to retire - was that Presley?
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 16:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I'm trying to be nice, Geoff and not use 15 seconds of baseball-reference to bury a player. But, yeah, that 63 OPS+ in his second year, IIRC, isn't good.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-94474"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I&#8217;m trying to be nice, Geoff and not use 15 seconds of baseball-reference to bury a player. But, yeah, that 63 OPS+ in his second year, IIRC, isn&#8217;t good.
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		<title>By: Geoff Young</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#68: The Phillies absolutely would not score more runs with Coleman in left than with Burrell. Coleman's '87 resulted in 5.4 RC/G, while Burrell's '07 resulted in 7.6. If you're talking about Burrell's '03, then I can accept that, but on balance, those two players aren't even close in terms of offensive production.

#86, 89: Thanks for the info on Venable.

#88: No worries, bud; it happens.

#90: Except that for much of his career, Coleman was terrible. Still, stealing 107 bases with a .232/.301/.280 line in '86 is mighty impressive. If Coleman had possessed any hitting ability whatsoever, he would have destroyed Rickey's single-season mark of 130 that year.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-94455"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#68: The Phillies absolutely would not score more runs with Coleman in left than with Burrell. Coleman&#8217;s &#8216;87 resulted in 5.4 RC/G, while Burrell&#8217;s &#8216;07 resulted in 7.6. If you&#8217;re talking about Burrell&#8217;s &#8216;03, then I can accept that, but on balance, those two players aren&#8217;t even close in terms of offensive production.</p>
<p>#86, 89: Thanks for the info on Venable.</p>
<p>#88: No worries, bud; it happens.</p>
<p>#90: Except that for much of his career, Coleman was terrible. Still, stealing 107 bases with a .232/.301/.280 line in &#8216;86 is mighty impressive. If Coleman had possessed any hitting ability whatsoever, he would have destroyed Rickey&#8217;s single-season mark of 130 that year.
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>88: Well I went overboard calling Vince Coleman terrible. So ... got get a motivated Jones on a one-year deal. That's my solution.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-94449"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>88: Well I went overboard calling Vince Coleman terrible. So &#8230; got get a motivated Jones on a one-year deal. That&#8217;s my solution.
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		<title>By: JP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#86  I saw Venable play a lot this year at San Antonio and I must agree with Law. Venable swing seemed rather long and at times  he indeed have a difficult time squaring up.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-94444"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#86  I saw Venable play a lot this year at San Antonio and I must agree with Law. Venable swing seemed rather long and at times  he indeed have a difficult time squaring up.
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		<title>By: JP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad I sparked some conversation but of course a bit embarrassed that my enthusiasm resulted in the dropping of the F-Bomb (won't happen again). Above all, thanks for the great chat about about baseball !&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-94441"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad I sparked some conversation but of course a bit embarrassed that my enthusiasm resulted in the dropping of the F-Bomb (won&#8217;t happen again). Above all, thanks for the great chat about about baseball !
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		<title>By: Geoff Young</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 12:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hunter is interested in the Nats:

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071017&#38;content_id=2270739&#38;vkey=news_mlb&#38;fext=.jsp&#38;c_id=mlb

I wonder if this would make Ryan Church available? There's a guy we could use.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-94427"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hunter is interested in the Nats:</p>
<p><a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071017&amp;content_id=2270739&amp;vkey=news_mlb&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=mlb" rel="nofollow">http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....p;c_id=mlb</a></p>
<p>I wonder if this would make Ryan Church available? There&#8217;s a guy we could use.
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		<title>By: Coronado Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coronado Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 12:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In case anyone is interested, Keith Law had this to say about Will Venable's performance this fall...

Will Venable (Padres) can't keep his body under control as he swings. His hips turn way out front before he starts his swing, resulting in an uncoordinated hack and inability to square up balls.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-94422"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case anyone is interested, Keith Law had this to say about Will Venable&#8217;s performance this fall&#8230;</p>
<p>Will Venable (Padres) can&#8217;t keep his body under control as he swings. His hips turn way out front before he starts his swing, resulting in an uncoordinated hack and inability to square up balls.
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 08:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The three most important spots in the batting order (and thus the three positions that should be occupied by your three best hitters) are 1st, 2nd and 4th.  I'm not sure what's confusing about that.  Coco Crisp is not a good hitter and thus doesn't belong in one of those spots for the Padres in '08.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-94392"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The three most important spots in the batting order (and thus the three positions that should be occupied by your three best hitters) are 1st, 2nd and 4th.  I&#8217;m not sure what&#8217;s confusing about that.  Coco Crisp is not a good hitter and thus doesn&#8217;t belong in one of those spots for the Padres in &#8216;08.
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