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		<title>By: LynchMob</title>
		<link>http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/09/igd-padres-diamondbacks-5-sep-07.html/comment-page-2#comment-79831</link>
		<dc:creator>LynchMob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>80 ... well said ... you've framed a lose-lose proposition ... either they hadn't forethought about the schedule and the possibility of going with Jake on 3-days rest ... or they let Jake go too long on Saturday in the face of a short-rest-start possibility.  Let's see if we see any quotes in the next coupla days which provide further insight into this ... either way, a tune-up is never a bad idea ... do you have a suggestion for how one might go about doing such a tune-up?  I might/could use one myself ...&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-79831"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>80 &#8230; well said &#8230; you&#8217;ve framed a lose-lose proposition &#8230; either they hadn&#8217;t forethought about the schedule and the possibility of going with Jake on 3-days rest &#8230; or they let Jake go too long on Saturday in the face of a short-rest-start possibility.  Let&#8217;s see if we see any quotes in the next coupla days which provide further insight into this &#8230; either way, a tune-up is never a bad idea &#8230; do you have a suggestion for how one might go about doing such a tune-up?  I might/could use one myself &#8230;
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		<title>By: Tom Waits</title>
		<link>http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/09/igd-padres-diamondbacks-5-sep-07.html/comment-page-2#comment-79816</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Waits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>79: If they let him throw 25-30 pitches more than needed on Saturday and were thinking of having him go yesterday, then the vaunted Padre brain trust needs a tune-up.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-79816"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>79: If they let him throw 25-30 pitches more than needed on Saturday and were thinking of having him go yesterday, then the vaunted Padre brain trust needs a tune-up.
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		<title>By: LynchMob</title>
		<link>http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/09/igd-padres-diamondbacks-5-sep-07.html/comment-page-2#comment-79807</link>
		<dc:creator>LynchMob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>78 ... if "nobody in the front office looking at the schedule until after Saturday’s game was over", then that indeed is a "real problem" ... I don't think that was the case ... just appears that way based on the limited information we have ...

One other related note was I heard/read somewhere that now Jake is on schedule to pitch the final game of the season, if necessary ... which means that if it's not necessary and the Padres have a playoff spot clinched, then he's on schedule for Game 1 of the NLDS ... which seems like a good thing ...&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-79807"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>78 &#8230; if &#8220;nobody in the front office looking at the schedule until after Saturday’s game was over&#8221;, then that indeed is a &#8220;real problem&#8221; &#8230; I don&#8217;t think that was the case &#8230; just appears that way based on the limited information we have &#8230;</p>
<p>One other related note was I heard/read somewhere that now Jake is on schedule to pitch the final game of the season, if necessary &#8230; which means that if it&#8217;s not necessary and the Padres have a playoff spot clinched, then he&#8217;s on schedule for Game 1 of the NLDS &#8230; which seems like a good thing &#8230;
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		<title>By: Tom Waits</title>
		<link>http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/09/igd-padres-diamondbacks-5-sep-07.html/comment-page-2#comment-79783</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Waits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 16:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>77: Going on short rest against the 2004 Diamondbacks, who finished 51-111 (seriously, 111 losses that year) is different than going on short rest against a good team. 

We were in first place. We have the better team. I saw no reason to panic before last night. If Cassell was good enough to start against the Dodgers last week, how can he be a bad option against the Diamondbacks? Not an optimal option, but the falloff from Peavy to anybody else is steep. 

The real problem with the decision is that it was made without foresight. Was nobody in the front office looking at the schedule until after Saturday's game was over? Jake could have been pulled after the 5th inning Saturday.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-79783"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>77: Going on short rest against the 2004 Diamondbacks, who finished 51-111 (seriously, 111 losses that year) is different than going on short rest against a good team. </p>
<p>We were in first place. We have the better team. I saw no reason to panic before last night. If Cassell was good enough to start against the Dodgers last week, how can he be a bad option against the Diamondbacks? Not an optimal option, but the falloff from Peavy to anybody else is steep. </p>
<p>The real problem with the decision is that it was made without foresight. Was nobody in the front office looking at the schedule until after Saturday&#8217;s game was over? Jake could have been pulled after the 5th inning Saturday.
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		<title>By: LynchMob</title>
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		<dc:creator>LynchMob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 16:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously every one now thinks starting Peavy on short rest was a bad idea ... well ... that's not how I see it ... I think it was a good decision with bad results ... Peavy looked strong in recent starts ... he did well in one previous short rest start ... the alternatives were bad ... as far as I know, Black and Balsley and all other people with input into the decision were thumbs-up, and they made the decision based on more information than we have ... I was OK with the decision ...

One thing I learned (or was reminded) is that it can't matter that Jake says he "feels good" ... that's not a predictor of "good results" ...&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-79781"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously every one now thinks starting Peavy on short rest was a bad idea &#8230; well &#8230; that&#8217;s not how I see it &#8230; I think it was a good decision with bad results &#8230; Peavy looked strong in recent starts &#8230; he did well in one previous short rest start &#8230; the alternatives were bad &#8230; as far as I know, Black and Balsley and all other people with input into the decision were thumbs-up, and they made the decision based on more information than we have &#8230; I was OK with the decision &#8230;</p>
<p>One thing I learned (or was reminded) is that it can&#8217;t matter that Jake says he &#8220;feels good&#8221; &#8230; that&#8217;s not a predictor of &#8220;good results&#8221; &#8230;
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		<title>By: Tom Waits</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Waits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3: Do you understand the worries now? Mislabeling them as titty-whinning doesn't change the facts.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-79773"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3: Do you understand the worries now? Mislabeling them as titty-whinning doesn&#8217;t change the facts.
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		<title>By: SDSUBaseball</title>
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		<dc:creator>SDSUBaseball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 06:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>59:  He lost the Cy Young from one start on short rest?  Really?  Who is going to win it now?&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-79618"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>59:  He lost the Cy Young from one start on short rest?  Really?  Who is going to win it now?
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 05:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>59: What you said is factually incorrect and silly on about 10 levels. I won't detail them.

The No. 1 reason the Peavy moved can't be questioned too much is because the alternatives were no good. The team has no No. 5 starter right now. Yes, Peavy pitched poorly tonight, but whoever would have pitched instead may have done the same or worse.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-79599"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>59: What you said is factually incorrect and silly on about 10 levels. I won&#8217;t detail them.</p>
<p>The No. 1 reason the Peavy moved can&#8217;t be questioned too much is because the alternatives were no good. The team has no No. 5 starter right now. Yes, Peavy pitched poorly tonight, but whoever would have pitched instead may have done the same or worse.
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 04:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Worst loss of a year (passing the recent blown Mets game ) - looks like a desperation move good bad. I'm still mad they didn't completely blow that old scrub out of the water. Five runs in five innings is the best they could do?&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-79584"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Worst loss of a year (passing the recent blown Mets game ) - looks like a desperation move good bad. I&#8217;m still mad they didn&#8217;t completely blow that old scrub out of the water. Five runs in five innings is the best they could do?
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		<title>By: Ben B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 04:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too bad.  At least starting Jake on three days rest allowed us to skip the fifth spot in the rotation, so everyone starting in Coors gives us a good chance to win.  Germano-Dessens, Maddux-Francis (please don't start Blum against the lefty, Black), and Young-Fogg.  And then Jake gets the first game against the Dodgers on five days rest.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-79583"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad.  At least starting Jake on three days rest allowed us to skip the fifth spot in the rotation, so everyone starting in Coors gives us a good chance to win.  Germano-Dessens, Maddux-Francis (please don&#8217;t start Blum against the lefty, Black), and Young-Fogg.  And then Jake gets the first game against the Dodgers on five days rest.
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