Comments on: Why Bother? http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/08/why-bother.html Blogging the San Diego Padres baseball club. Established 1997. Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:55:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Tom Waits http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/08/why-bother.html#comment-72141 Tom Waits Wed, 22 Aug 2007 00:18:53 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/08/why-bother.html#comment-72141 91: And thus I wrote "TV revenue outside the US and Canada goes through MLB." MLB's deal with Japan is worth 275 million. Seattle also gets money directly from Japanese companies who advertise at Safeco. 92: I didn't say it couldn't be additional attendance. Seattle gets a sizable number of Japanese tourists who fly across the North Pacific. That's a more drastic commitment than crossing the border. It doesn't have to be "Let's catch a game tonight." It could be "Let's visit our cousins in San Diego this vacation and catch a Padre series while we're there." That, some greater radio penetration, more merchandising, deeper relationships with Mexican League teams, pretty soon you've pocketed an extra couple million per.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-72141">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> 91: And thus I wrote “TV revenue outside the US and Canada goes through MLB.” MLB’s deal with Japan is worth 275 million. Seattle also gets money directly from Japanese companies who advertise at Safeco.

92: I didn’t say it couldn’t be additional attendance. Seattle gets a sizable number of Japanese tourists who fly across the North Pacific. That’s a more drastic commitment than crossing the border. It doesn’t have to be “Let’s catch a game tonight.” It could be “Let’s visit our cousins in San Diego this vacation and catch a Padre series while we’re there.” That, some greater radio penetration, more merchandising, deeper relationships with Mexican League teams, pretty soon you’ve pocketed an extra couple million per.

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]]> By: Mark Ase http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/08/why-bother.html#comment-72117 Mark Ase Tue, 21 Aug 2007 23:27:42 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/08/why-bother.html#comment-72117 re 89: How do you propose the Padres make money in Mexico then if it can't be additional attendance or tv revenue? A couple of million bucks is a ton of jerseys to sell! Mark<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-72117">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> re 89: How do you propose the Padres make money in Mexico then if it can’t be additional attendance or tv revenue?

A couple of million bucks is a ton of jerseys to sell!

Mark

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]]> By: Zagz http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/08/why-bother.html#comment-72105 Zagz Tue, 21 Aug 2007 22:40:08 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/08/why-bother.html#comment-72105 89: In regards to Japan. All international TV revenue is split evenly among teams if I'm not mistaken, so Seattle doesn't get anything extra for their games being on TV. When I was in Japan earlier this year, every Seattle and Yankees game was televised, along with any game Matazuka was pitching, but I have to question what kind of rights are being paid for these games anyway, since they are on in the morning while ,ost people are at, or on their way to work.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-72105">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> 89: In regards to Japan. All international TV revenue is split evenly among teams if I’m not mistaken, so Seattle doesn’t get anything extra for their games being on TV. When I was in Japan earlier this year, every Seattle and Yankees game was televised, along with any game Matazuka was pitching, but I have to question what kind of rights are being paid for these games anyway, since they are on in the morning while ,ost people are at, or on their way to work.

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]]> By: Didi http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/08/why-bother.html#comment-72099 Didi Tue, 21 Aug 2007 22:14:40 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/08/why-bother.html#comment-72099 Remember how it was so hot in St. Louis and Cincinnati for the Padres' games last week. This is a nice read: http://tinyurl.com/32wz4r. Who'd have thunk, Cabbage Boy = HoF.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-72099">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> Remember how it was so hot in St. Louis and Cincinnati for the Padres’ games last week. This is a nice read:

http://tinyurl.com/32wz4r.

Who’d have thunk, Cabbage Boy = HoF.

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]]> By: Tom Waits http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/08/why-bother.html#comment-72096 Tom Waits Tue, 21 Aug 2007 22:02:49 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/08/why-bother.html#comment-72096 88: Much of the recent revenue expansion across baseball has nothing to do with attending games in person. The Mariners realize a lot of revenue from Japan that has nothing to do with Japanese tourists buying a ticket to Safeco. Developing world? Mexico's not Bhutan. TV revenue outside the US and Canada goes through MLB, but there are other avenues. For a team that shakes the couch cushions for spare change, even a couple million dollars would be worth chasing.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-72096">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> 88: Much of the recent revenue expansion across baseball has nothing to do with attending games in person. The Mariners realize a lot of revenue from Japan that has nothing to do with Japanese tourists buying a ticket to Safeco.

Developing world? Mexico’s not Bhutan. TV revenue outside the US and Canada goes through MLB, but there are other avenues. For a team that shakes the couch cushions for spare change, even a couple million dollars would be worth chasing.

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]]> By: Mark Ase http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/08/why-bother.html#comment-72092 Mark Ase Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:50:20 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/08/why-bother.html#comment-72092 Have you seen the wait at the border coming north lately? I wouldn't count on many, if any fans being able to make it to Petco for a game. Additionally, most of the middle class and wealthier citizens in Mexico aren't exactly living directly next to the border. Combine that with the issues that arise from trying to get much of anything on tv in the developing world and I'm not sure I can see any way to get much revenue from Mexico at this point in time.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-72092">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> Have you seen the wait at the border coming north lately? I wouldn’t count on many, if any fans being able to make it to Petco for a game.

Additionally, most of the middle class and wealthier citizens in Mexico aren’t exactly living directly next to the border. Combine that with the issues that arise from trying to get much of anything on tv in the developing world and I’m not sure I can see any way to get much revenue from Mexico at this point in time.

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]]> By: Tom Waits http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/08/why-bother.html#comment-72091 Tom Waits Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:41:30 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/08/why-bother.html#comment-72091 84: Owners are making money hand-over-fist now. Revenue has exploded. The Yankees have also aggressively sought to maximize revenues, while the Padres have largely stayed in their box. Alderson's statement that we get no revenue from Mexico, 10+ years after Lucchino wanted to target that market, should be the beginning of a new campaign, not an admission of defeat. 83: What are his numbers including June? From July 1 to now is about 7 weeks. So he's been terrible for 4 weeks, great for 4 weeks, pretty bad for another 4 weeks, then slightly above league average for 7 weeks. I'm glad he hasn't buried himself, even if his OBP remains terrible. But we need more from 3b. To be fair, we need more from almost every position.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-72091">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> 84: Owners are making money hand-over-fist now. Revenue has exploded. The Yankees have also aggressively sought to maximize revenues, while the Padres have largely stayed in their box. Alderson’s statement that we get no revenue from Mexico, 10+ years after Lucchino wanted to target that market, should be the beginning of a new campaign, not an admission of defeat.

83: What are his numbers including June? From July 1 to now is about 7 weeks. So he’s been terrible for 4 weeks, great for 4 weeks, pretty bad for another 4 weeks, then slightly above league average for 7 weeks. I’m glad he hasn’t buried himself, even if his OBP remains terrible. But we need more from 3b. To be fair, we need more from almost every position.

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]]> By: Mark Ase http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/08/why-bother.html#comment-72090 Mark Ase Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:28:02 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/08/why-bother.html#comment-72090 I'd be happy with Moores went back to having a payroll 1/2 of what the Yankees spend....think about having 50M to spend this off season<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-72090">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> I’d be happy with Moores went back to having a payroll 1/2 of what the Yankees spend….think about having 50M to spend this off season

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]]> By: UC Michael http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/08/why-bother.html#comment-72089 UC Michael Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:25:09 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/08/why-bother.html#comment-72089 Whoops, I meant 82!<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-72089">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> Whoops, I meant 82!

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]]> By: UC Michael http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/08/why-bother.html#comment-72088 UC Michael Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:24:34 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/08/why-bother.html#comment-72088 77: The fact that they were in the upper echelon of that era means that salaries shouldn't have been a concern for anyone in that era, when the owners were doubtlessly making money hand-over-fist. In 1988 the Yankees had the highest payroll in baseball at $18,909,152. The Padres were near the bottom of the league then, just as they are now, but with a total payroll of $9,878,168. It's easy to ask a team to spend a little more when that little a difference separates the top and bottom of the league.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-72088">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> 77: The fact that they were in the upper echelon of that era means that salaries shouldn’t have been a concern for anyone in that era, when the owners were doubtlessly making money hand-over-fist.

In 1988 the Yankees had the highest payroll in baseball at $18,909,152. The Padres were near the bottom of the league then, just as they are now, but with a total payroll of $9,878,168. It’s easy to ask a team to spend a little more when that little a difference separates the top and bottom of the league.

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